NFL 2019: Week 1

Rat Boy wrote:

Anyone got any other things they want changed while they're in a receptive mood?

The Dolphins roster.

Mr Bismarck wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Anyone got any other things they want changed while they're in a receptive mood?

The Dolphins roster ownership.

Edited for what the Miami fanbase probably wants to be done first.

That's a much better idea.

*Legion* wrote:

Yeah I don't buy the idea that AB had some master plan from the beginning, especially since if the end goal was to get released, getting the Raiders to commit $30 million in guaranteed money works against those purposes. AB in the end managed to give the Raiders what they need to get out of those guarantees, but it could have ended up being a sticking point.

But I don't doubt for one second that there was some point in time in which Drew Rosenhaus pivoted away from trying to rescue the situation with the Raiders and towards steering things to a new landing spot, and that AB's rapid escalation at the end was helped along by Rosenhaus whispering in his ear, "hey we could guide this to getting you somewhere else". AB's reaction to being "free" of the Raiders sure came across like a guy that had expectations of what comes next, rather than someone that just lost a whole lot of millions. It doesn't jive with what he had been projecting up to that point, what with his concern over $40,000 and $200,000 fines.

Rosenhaus would have known about New England's interest in AB back in March. That the Patriots signed him to a contract so quickly after this flame-out sequence of events makes me extremely skeptical that the conversations between Rosenhaus and the Patriots started *after* AB's release.

Would agree with all of this, except I don't even think it's necessary Rosenhaus and the Patriots were talking beforehand. If I were running an organization as competent as the Patriots, I'd have started having internal meetings about a potential AB contract weeks ago, when things started getting silly, and I'd have by and large formalized it about five minutes after the news of the conflict with Mayock broke. You could see it coming at that point, and I think it's absolutely plausible they just sat back and waited for everything to finally implode and then called Rosenhaus up. They also could have contacted him surreptitiously beforehand, but, well, there's no need to assume that other than "PATRITS BAD". No conspiracy or evil planning are needed here; any decent organization should have started planning for a potential Antonio Brown release.

Shady dealings are possible, but, logically, not even vaguely required. I mean, think about it--you're Antonio Brown. You are whiny and pissed off, and want to figure out how to stick it to your former team. Sure, you could go in the division, but you're going to catch passes from Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, or Andy Dalton? Nope. Need to stay in the conference . . . hmmm . . . what would really piss the Steelers off . . . hey, isn't that a Boston area code?

Seriously, signing with the Patriots is the Antonio Brown-est of Antonio Brown moves. He gets to piss everybody off and catch balls from the best QB of all time in a great offense, meaning he's going to keep himself in the limelight and accumulate enough stats to get a huge deal down the road. I'm sure that was the Pats pitch, and this was an easy thing for everybody.

The problem, Milkman, is that the Patriots deserve absolutely no benefit of the doubt and really should be guilty until proven innocent with pretty much anything they do.

Well that wasn't a week 1 preseason game.

Jeepers. Already had one of the best games of the year.

Well at least a Monday Night doubleheader no longer means commentary by SHOUTING TRENT DILFER

And look at Derek Carr completing every throw. He's practically Gardner Minshew.

I think the thing I liked the most about the game-winner was that Lutz knew it was good about a second after he hit it and started celebrating while it was only halfway there.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Would agree with all of this, except I don't even think it's necessary Rosenhaus and the Patriots were talking beforehand. If I were running an organization as competent as the Patriots, I'd have started having internal meetings about a potential AB contract weeks ago, when things started getting silly, and I'd have by and large formalized it about five minutes after the news of the conflict with Mayock broke. You could see it coming at that point, and I think it's absolutely plausible they just sat back and waited for everything to finally implode and then called Rosenhaus up. They also could have contacted him surreptitiously beforehand, but, well, there's no need to assume that other than "PATRITS BAD". No conspiracy or evil planning are needed here; any decent organization should have started planning for a potential Antonio Brown release.

That potentially explains how the Patriots could jump on this without any tampering contact.

It does not explain how AB and Rosenhaus, however, would know that they had that landing spot in their back pocket ahead of time. How they would have the confidence to just let all that Raiders money go and be assured that they would have a buyer that they want.

Also, lost in the fact that they ran head-first immediately into that Patriots deal is the fact that doing so basically slammed the door on any chance of waiting for and fielding competitive offers. Rosenhaus claimed other teams were interested, but they chose the Patriots so fast, it's hard to think they really explored the market to its fullest. Could teams have been talked into offering AB a big deal if they had a chance to talk to AB and discuss what went wrong in Oakland? Who knows, Rosenhaus had him a Patriot so fast that nobody would have had time to.

I completely forgot that Joe Flacco existed before he was introduced in this game.

Maybe AB is only the second craziest person in the AB saga?

Giants Fan Angry Patriots Signed Antonio Brown Accused Of Making Gillette Stadium Threat

I'm not sure Joe Flacco is the answer in Denver.

*Legion* wrote:

I'm not sure Joe FlaccoJohn Elway is the answer in Denver.

Fixed for more accuracy.

Elway sad face cam on the sideline.

Anyone who has lived the Joe Flacco morass in Baltimore could have told you that what Denver got last night is what they will get all season. Slow Joe putting his defense in a hole with a series of early three and outs and then padding the stat line as his offense plays catch up all night falling predictably short in the fourth quarter.

He can hit the long ball if you give him 20 seconds and a clean pocket, but pressure him even a little bit and he can miss the floor falling out of bed.

*Legion* wrote:

And look at Derek Carr completing every throw. He's practically Gardner Minshew.

Mr Bismarck wrote:

Look at this madness.

That's great!

The fact that anyone is giving the Patriots organization the benefit of the doubt is laughable.

Look it makes sense from AB's perspective.. you knew the Steelers would never trade AB to the Patriots for any amount of picks..so AB takes whatever trade he can get knowing that he will do everything in his power to get released from the team because he has already essentially got the nod from the Patriots they will give him a 1 year deal that covers him with some guarantees.

In AB's mind (and rightfully so) playing for 1 year on the best team with the best QB will give him 2007 Moss level numbers which will make him the richest WR in history come FA next season.

Mr Bismarck wrote:

Look at this madness.

That would be cool except its the Cowboys.. who the hell wants to take a picture with them??

TheGameguru wrote:
Mr Bismarck wrote:

Look at this madness.

That would be cool except its the Cowboys.. who the hell wants to take a picture with them??

It'd be better if it was just a frowny, sweaty, awkwardly, close Jerry Jones.

Vector wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Mr Bismarck wrote:

Look at this madness.

That would be cool except its the Cowboys.. who the hell wants to take a picture with them??

It'd be better if it was just a frowny, sweaty, awkwardly, close Jerry Jones.

They should have it so that no matter what players you choose, Jerry Jones relentlessly photobombs the picture every time.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/09/mike-...

Mike Scott an NBA player who plays for the Philadelphia Sixers thought it would be a good idea to wear Washington Redskins gear and attend an Eagles home game Sunday. Predictably this did not go over well with the fans.

Scott who seems to be a really good dude who engages with the fans I'm guessing had no idea what he was getting into.

Good thing it wasn't the giants or cowboys I guess.

TheGameguru wrote:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/09/mike-...

Mike Scott an NBA player who plays for the Philadelphia Sixers thought it would be a good idea to wear Washington Redskins gear and attend an Eagles home game Sunday. Predictably this did not go over well with the fans.

Scott who seems to be a really good dude who engages with the fans I'm guessing had no idea what he was getting into.

There's been speculation Scott thought the coffin was there to mock late Redskins star Sean Taylor, though that has NOT been confirmed.

My understanding based on what I've seen on Facebook is that the shirt was intended to imply the Redskins have been dead since 1991 or something. I dunno. Don't know who Sean Taylor is.

Stay classy Philly.

Jayhawker wrote:
Vector wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Mr Bismarck wrote:

Look at this madness.

That would be cool except its the Cowboys.. who the hell wants to take a picture with them??

It'd be better if it was just a frowny, sweaty, awkwardly, close Jerry Jones.

They should have it so that no matter what players you choose, Jerry Jones relentlessly photobombs the picture every time.

@ccesarano: Sean Taylor was a DC player (first-round draft pick, I think) who was fatally shot in his home during a burglary about 10 years ago.

*Legion* wrote:

Gardner Minshew playing basketball with the local kids

You're falling in love with the mustache, aren't you?

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Gardner Minshew playing basketball with the local kids

You're falling in love with the mustache, aren't you?

I'll let one of the poets from Reddit sum it up:

"Chuckin bombs and f*ckin moms let’s go boys, AFC just got a new step daddy"