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I'd like to buy one ticket to un-see it please.

Nipples

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Nipples

I'll need a full reimbursement on that unsee ticket, please.

Only the abs deserve gym time?

his character has been trapped in a basement for 30 years

Ah, ok.
Oh, and the nipples. They look ready to strike. They even cast a shadow.

Nippleman

Watching the first episode and one of the changes from the comics that I'm not liking is that the superheroes are at least semi-competent. In the comics, the superheroes are all completely untrained, and largely incapable of stopping any kind of crime that isn't spoonfed to them (To darkly hilarious ends). IMO, that was The Boys' most cogent criticism of superheroes, comics, and the genre itself.

All I can say is keep watching.

Haven’t had prime for long but big mentions to the following which are not hidden gems but well worth a watch:
Sneaky Pete
Bosch
Jack Ryan
Good Omens

Regarding the lost boys I don’t read comics and was getting bored with super hero movies many years ago but still enjoyed the series. I think this was because the supe’s were the baddies and actually not invinceable which seems quite the change.

Watching Justified now but not convinced, all too twee.

Twee isn’t the first word that springs to mind when I think of Justified. I really enjoyed that show. I feel it got better as it went on but it’s a while since I saw it (I’m intending to watch it all again.)

I still have to watch good omens it I’m on an Ip Man movie kick at the moment over at the ‘other place.’

Twee huh? I learned a new word today. At the beginning I think it plays up the ‘aw shucks’ a little too much but it settles in as it goes.

Justified is one of my favorite series ever. So good in so many ways.

MannishBoy wrote:

Justified is one of my favorite series ever. So good in so many ways.

Yeah, I think it belongs in the conversation of greatest TV shows of all time. It's not top of the list, but, it easily has some of the my favorite scenes from Tv shows of all time. So many great characters throughout the series.

Justified is right there with The Wire on best tv shows. Both consistently good to great every season and finish without dropping the ball on the finale.

looks like it's just me on Justified then. Only in the second series so continuing on but this will never be in the same league as The Wire, no sirree!

The casting for The Boys is kind of bonkers. First off, it's great. But there are some just nutso guest spots. What's Billy Zane doing taking a series of one off cameos?

Watched the first few episodes of The Boys and like it so far. Have no background from the comic but really loving the premise of the untouchable corrupt corporation farming out super heroes. Had no idea what to expect but that first episode literally had some jaw dropping moments. Really hoping they play out more of the Starlight inner conflict and interaction with Hughie.

kborom wrote:

looks like it's just me on Justified then. Only in the second series so continuing on but this will never be in the same league as The Wire, no sirree!

I love Justified, but I also don't think I'd put it up there with The Wire.
That said, if you still feel the same way in the second season of Justified, I don't think your opinion will change after seeing everything.

The best part of Justified is digging coal with everybody watching it.

kazooka wrote:

The casting for The Boys is kind of bonkers. First off, it's great. But there are some just nutso guest spots. What's Billy Zane doing taking a series of one off cameos?

I kept wondering why they cast Simon Pegg as Hughie's father.

Spoiler:

I expected the casting choice to pay off at some point. It didn't. Maybe next season?

polq37 wrote:
kazooka wrote:

The casting for The Boys is kind of bonkers. First off, it's great. But there are some just nutso guest spots. What's Billy Zane doing taking a series of one off cameos?

I kept wondering why they cast Simon Pegg as Hughie's father.

Spoiler:

I expected the casting choice to pay off at some point. It didn't. Maybe next season?

In the comic, Hughie was based on Simon Pegg; it's recognizably him. This is kind of an Easter egg to the comic fans.

kazooka wrote:
polq37 wrote:
kazooka wrote:

The casting for The Boys is kind of bonkers. First off, it's great. But there are some just nutso guest spots. What's Billy Zane doing taking a series of one off cameos?

I kept wondering why they cast Simon Pegg as Hughie's father.

Spoiler:

I expected the casting choice to pay off at some point. It didn't. Maybe next season?

In the comic, Hughie was based on Simon Pegg; it's recognizably him. This is kind of an Easter egg to the comic fans.

They used his likeness without his permission, I might add. Pegg was a fan of the comic, so he didn't sue, but he clearly had a case if he wanted to.

Grenn wrote:
kazooka wrote:
polq37 wrote:
kazooka wrote:

The casting for The Boys is kind of bonkers. First off, it's great. But there are some just nutso guest spots. What's Billy Zane doing taking a series of one off cameos?

I kept wondering why they cast Simon Pegg as Hughie's father.

Spoiler:

I expected the casting choice to pay off at some point. It didn't. Maybe next season?

In the comic, Hughie was based on Simon Pegg; it's recognizably him. This is kind of an Easter egg to the comic fans.

They used his likeness without his permission, I might add. Pegg was a fan of the comic, so he didn't sue, but he clearly had a case if he wanted to.

This was before he was much of a star, so I think he found it more flattering than anything.

Finished up Season 1 of The Boys. It's weird in that it's uneven in the same way as the comics, only in opposite ways, kind of like a reverse image. Like the mid-low key sexism is still there, just in different places, and the "woman-affirming" bits have been rearranged, too.

I'm not quite sure what the show was doing with The Deep and A-Train. There's a lot of weird empathetic backstory for guys who committed some horrific crimes.

I do like a lot of the changes from the comics. The move to not give all The Boys superpowers was a really good one, and a big improvement on the original. People think The Boys was a superhero satire, but I don't really think it's even that deep. The Boys hated the idea of superheroes. It wasn't examining how superheroes would work in the real world, or anything like that. It was against giving anyone that kind of power and accolades without any training or oversight. If you're able to, you really should check out the sequence where The Seven try and stop 9/11. It's completely brilliant, even moreso than its hijacking counterpart in the Amazon show. The supes aren't just bad at stopping the planes, they're scared, panicky, and have no idea what they're doing. So it's a little strange that the solution in the comics was a bunch of "good" superheroes, as if the problem with superheroes were the tights.

The superheroes in the tv show are more competent than in the comics. That's probably necessary for this kind of story format, but it's something I miss from the comics. We have a lot of stories about near invincible, brilliant villains who keep a plot moving with their powers of foresight and anticipation. But in the real world, our villains tend to be idiots who nevertheless have the capacity to cause a lot of damage more through collateral cruelty than any sort of plan or organization. The comic did not back away from this in the slightest, and it's why I really like it despite the mysogyny and sophomoric humor and the unevenness. The Boys wasn't just taking aim at a bunch of flying strongmen in tights, it was shooting down the myth of the irreplaceable man. Even the CEOs and politicians are fools, and their power is not in their intelligence, but in their money and connections. There's no mastermind behind any of this, just a bunch of poorly-considered grasping from MBAs who've bought into their own marketing.

Overall I thought it was a good watch, and the cast was fabulous, but I'm not sure it lives up to the source material.

I don’t really think the show presents superheroes as more competent, it just shows that nothing presents a real threat to them. The handful of times they’re shown fighting crime they really aren’t even trying, and the one time in the show any of them is faced with a difficult task they immediately give up and bail.

ruhk wrote:

I don’t really think the show presents superheroes as more competent, it just shows that nothing presents a real threat to them. The handful of times they’re shown fighting crime they really aren’t even trying, and the one time in the show any of them is faced with a difficult task they immediately give up and bail.

Yeah, I just got past that episode and it made me really angry-sad. I seriously hope that the Super involved bites it by the end.

It's not that the show supes are particularly competent, it's that they are more so than their comic counterparts. Like I said, I understand why they did it. I don't think the original setup would have made for a very good TV show. That said, I think the premise does suffer a little for it.

I dont know, you can't get much more incompetent than

Spoiler:

lasering right through a terrorist AND
the cockpit controls at the same time.

If the heroes in the books are dumber than that, I'd love to hear about how!

The primary difference is that in the comics ALL the superheroes (except Annie) are full on sociopaths like Homelander, they just don’t care about humans at all and don’t think twice about murdering them, intentionally or otherwise. The airplane scene is WAY worse in the comics.

A sample from when they first tried to stop the plane:

http://majorspoilers.com/wp-content/...

In a few other panels, I forgot that Homelander is yelling the n-word throughout that scene for no other reason than to show how horrible he is. Whole comic is like this, constantly shooting itself in the foot right when it's starting to make itself interesting.

Loving it so far, particularly the dolphin and the super baby.