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Ousted Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi Dies In Court, State TV SaysYour text to link here...
CAIRO (AP) — Egypt’s state TV says the country’s ousted President Mohammed Morsi has collapsed during a court session and died.The state TV says the 67-year-old Morsi was attending a session Monday in his trial on espionage charges when he blacked out and then died. His body was taken to a hospital, it said.
Killary strikes again!
So, some interesting news from Turkey!
It looks like Erdogan's ruling AKP party has lost the Mayoralty of the capital, Istanbul.
Long and the short of it, Istanbul is an incredibly important city in Turkey (obviously) that Erdogan was once Mayor of.
A former mayor of Istanbul once claimed that whoever controls Istanbul will go on to rule Turkey. That mayor was *checks* Erdogan.
So this means that the AKP rules zero of Turkey’s three largest cities, including the capital.
In my eyes, a first of its kind and an absolutely mind-blowing interview from the Bahrain foreign minister to an Israeli news channel. Keep in mind that the Gulf countries don't have diplomatic relations with Israel. They consistently and blindly support the Palestinians and refuse to move forward with establishing relations with Israel until the Palestinian issue is resolved.
However, things are changing. Those countries see for themselves that the Palestinians keep refusing peace negotiations time after time while practicing terrorism and use the money coming from same Gulf countries to "invest" in terrorism then blame Israel for the poor economy in Gaza.
The Gulf countries have common allies (USA) and common enemies (Iran) so they understand there is very little sense in supporting people who oppose peace, while strengthening relations with Israel is the logical thing to do.
Bahrain foreign minister: Palestinians made a mistake by boycotting peace conference
MANAMA, Bahrain — Bahraini Foreign Minister Sheikh Khalid bin Ahmed Al Khalifa told me in an exclusive interview for Channel 13 news and Axios that the Palestinians made a mistake not showing up to the U.S.-led conference in Manama, where the Trump administration is launching the economic portion of its peace plan.Highlights
On why he accepted an interview with an Israeli journalist: "It should have happened a long time ago. Talking with people you differ with is always a step that would lead to easing up any tension. We have always wanted to solve the Arab-Israeli dispute or the Palestinian-Israeli dispute. But we have always missed the communication. We've always talked to the whole people around the world except talking directly to the Israeli public and through their own ... media. ... And we didn't want to miss this opportunity here since we have this workshop."
On normalization with Israel, he added: "Yes, you do have a peace agreement with Egypt. You do have a peace agreement with Jordan, and ... some kind of understandings with the Palestinians. ... But this is not the limit of the scope of where you belong. Israel is a country in the Middle East. Israel is part of this heritage of this whole region historically. So the Jewish people have a place among us. So communication needs to be a prerequisite for solving all the dispute. We should talk."
On the Bahrain conference: Sheikh Khalid said the Bahraini government tried to convince the Palestinians not to boycott the conference. "It is always a mistake to miss an opportunity to achieve peace. … This was an opportunity that we wanted to see them here, but they chose not to come."
On the White House peace plan: Sheikh Khalid said he was not privy to the details of the political part of the plan, but said: "We do trust the U.S. that they will be able to reach an agreement." He added in a message to the Palestinians: "It will not be a good idea to shun the role of the U.S. in the peace process." The foreign minister also said he thinks the Israeli government made a mistake by not responding positively to the Arab Peace Initiative when it was first announced in 2002.
On Iran: "Iran is a major threat to the security and stability of the region. I don’t want to use the word Iran. It’s the Islamic Republic. It's this regime that changed all the dynamics." Sheikh Khalid said that Iran is exacerbating the Arab-Israeli conflict by transferring money and weapons to its proxies in the region, and he stressed that Israel had every right to act militarily against Iranian forces in Syria out of self-defense.
On the White House peace plan: Sheikh Khalid said he was not privy to the details of the political part of the plan, but said: "We do trust the U.S. that they will be able to reach an agreement." He added in a message to the Palestinians:
Well there goes that guy's credibility.
sonny615 wrote:On the White House peace plan: Sheikh Khalid said he was not privy to the details of the political part of the plan, but said: "We do trust the U.S. that they will be able to reach an agreement." He added in a message to the Palestinians:
Well there goes that guy's credibility. :)
for some values of "agreement" i'm sure that's true.
CNN: The unique reasons why millions in Hong Kong are protesting
(CNN)The images coming out of Hong Kong over the past month have been striking: millions of black-clad protesters marching through the streets and thousands of yellow-hatted demonstrators storming into government headquarters.
These protests have been about stopping a controversial extradition bill from taking effect. In previous years, residents have demonstrated over the right to pick their own leaders. The ultimate aim of all of this unrest, it seems, is to keep Hong Kong culturally and politically distinct from the rest of China. People taking to the streets are doing what they can to preserve the city's unique way of life.
China state media run footage of Hong Kong protests
HONG KONG (AP) — Chinese state media ran footage Tuesday of police in Hong Kong clearing protesters from streets in a break with its silence over several past days of pro-democracy demonstrations.
Beijing has largely sought to downplay the demonstrations that have highlighted doubts about the validity of its “one country, two systems” formula for governing the former British colony. Its coverage of the protests and the publication of a harsh editorial in the official Communist Party newspaper Global Times may indicate it is prepared to take a tougher line against the demonstrators following days of forbearance.
“These violent assailants in their arrogance pay no heed to Hong Kong’s law, no doubt arousing the anger and sadness of all people of the city of Hong Kong,” the editorial said.
Hundreds of protesters swarmed into Hong Kong’s legislature Monday night, defacing portraits of lawmakers and spray-painting pro-democracy slogans in the chamber before vacating it as riot police cleared surrounding streets with tear gas and then moved inside.The occupation came on the 22nd anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to China.
Val’s primary gripe was the excessive influence of the ideological wing of Bolsonaro’s administration – led by an eccentric US-based polemicist called Olavo de Carvalho – and its obsession with waging irrelevant ideological battles instead of promoting key reforms.He was also perplexed that control of presidential communications had been entrusted to the president’s “most hot-headed son”, Carlos Bolsonaro, who has launched a succession of social media attacks on perceived enemies in his father’s administration and on Brazil’s right.
Gee, that sounds familiar. Where have I seen a leader like that recently?
Israel being Israel:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...
Israel being Israel:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...
The US loves it though:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...
(huge shocker, I know)
Unnao rape survivor accident: FIR registered against BJP MLA Kuldeep Singh Sengar, 9 others
Reddit comment that sums up how horrific this actually is:
Father beaten to death. Uncle arrested. Mom dead. Aunts dead. Witness dead. Victim critical. Lawyer critical
The protests in Hong Kong have been ongoing for the past nine weeks (and have put up what looks like very effective resistance).
The Guardian: Hong Kong protesters and Chinese officials hold rival press conferences
Chinese authorities and masked protesters have held rival press conferences in an attempt to take control of the narrative amid escalating demonstrations in Hong Kong.
In a rare press conference on Tuesday, Beijing sounded its strongest warning yet to protesters not to underestimate the power of the Chinese government.
Calling the demonstrators “brazen, violent and criminal actors”, Yang Guang, a spokesman for the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office of the Chinese government, said: “Don’t misjudge the situation or take restraint as a sign of weakness … don’t underestimate the firm resolve and tremendous power by the central government.”
If I will say anything agree with anything critics of mass migration say, I will admit that I think that progressives can be a bit too glib about how difficult it can be, even among seemingly similar groups. I posted an article in the European thread about the anti-Ukrainian bias that Ukrainian migrants and immigrants face in Poland. I know I, as an American, find it somewhat baffling that two groups I personally find largely similar could have such conflict (fully believing this would however mean a wholesale ignorance of European history, so I know i'm being ridiculous here).
Anyway, along the same lines, here's a similar example from Latin America.
When Iris Mendoza and her husband Pedro Carreño fled Venezuela, Peru's capital was their light at the end of the tunnel.Mr Carreño had been diagnosed with severe cancer and Venezuela's collapsing medical system meant he could not get even the most basic care.
But when they arrived in Lima after journeying across South America they were met with a rising wave of xenophobia against Venezuelans like them arriving at the country's border.
"They look at you and they tell you that you should go back to your own country," Ms Mendoza says.
"They say: 'What are you doing here? We don't need any more Venezuelans here. We're full.'"
Millions of Venezuelans have fled the economic and political crisis in their home country, many of them to Peru, which is the second largest recipient of Venezuelan migrants after Colombia.
Of those, more than 80% arrived in Lima searching for work, aid, or, in Ms Mendoza and Mr Carreño's case, medical treatment they could not get anywhere else.
BacklashBut the unprecedented surge in migration this year has brought with it an equally unprecedented backlash.
"At the beginning, we had this very welcoming culture in all sectors of society," says Luisa Feline Freier, professor of political science at Lima's Universidad del Pacífico. "But then the fear started to kick in."
According to a June poll by the Institute of Peruvian Studies, 73% of Peruvians are opposed to Venezuelans coming to Peru.
Increases in crime and migrants taking Peruvian jobs were among the top concerns, which Prof Feline Freier say are "based on fears more than on facts".
Peruvian government data shows that in 2018 less than 1% of crimes in Peru were committed by Venezuelans. But the perception Peruvians have is very different.
More than half of those questioned in a study in February said they believed that "many Venezuelans engaged in criminal activities in Peru".
Prof Feline Freier says sensationalistic reporting and the rhetoric of public officials is to blame for these misconceptions.
Boy howdy, it seems like this stuff operates the same lazy, dishonest, tribalist way wherever you go, huh?
Some pretty gross examples of that happening in Idaho right now.
Some pretty gross examples of that happening in Idaho right now.
Same thing in Oregon. A couple of years ago in my old neighborhood someone went around tagging “no californians” on all the for sale signs in front of houses, and a lot of people blame California in general for all our ills, regardless of whether there’s a connection.
Beuks33 wrote:Some pretty gross examples of that happening in Idaho right now.
Same thing in Oregon. A couple of years ago in my old neighborhood someone went around tagging “no californians” on all the for sale signs in front of houses, and a lot of people blame California in general for all our ills, regardless of whether there’s a connection.
The people that make and post such things will also unironically complain about the death of small town America, lack of rural resources (healthcare, EMS, jobs, food), and urban elitism so, really, f*ck them.
ruhk wrote:Beuks33 wrote:Some pretty gross examples of that happening in Idaho right now.
Same thing in Oregon. A couple of years ago in my old neighborhood someone went around tagging “no californians” on all the for sale signs in front of houses, and a lot of people blame California in general for all our ills, regardless of whether there’s a connection.
The people that make and post such things will also unironically complain about the death of small town America, lack of rural resources (healthcare, EMS, jobs, food), and urban elitism so, really, f*ck them.
Going the other direction, consider also things like Cincinnati passing a law in 1995 to forbid discrimination against people of Appalachian regional origin because people seeking jobs in industrial cities across the rust belt saw a lot of migration after the collapse of the coal industry. Folks from Appalachia got treated as ignorant hicks and turned away from work based on stereotypes and their accents.
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