NFL 2019: Draft

Speaking of the other Josh Allen, a writer on The Athletic did a film review of his rookie season. The thing I found interesting (but not surprising): many of his passing metrics improved in the second half of the season versus the first, but his accuracy (or lack of) and his turnover worthy plays didn't budge. The outcomes of his "good" throws improved, but his rate of good vs. off-target throws didn't.

garion333 wrote:

Hill is a piece of sh*t, clearly, but hasn't broken the law, so no suspension.

Ezekiel Elliott was never charged but that didn't get him off of a 6 game suspension. The NFL fought tooth and nail to uphold that suspension, even though their own lead investigator was against it.

If the league has a good reason as to why Tyreek is a different situation, then OK. Tell us why.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Hill is a piece of sh*t, clearly, but hasn't broken the law, so no suspension.

Ezekiel Elliott was never charged but that didn't get him off of a 6 game suspension. The NFL fought tooth and nail to uphold that suspension, even though their own lead investigator was against it.

If the league has a good reason as to why Tyreek is a different situation, then OK. Tell us why.

There's video, duh.

Enabling Hill will not end well for someone close to him. In the end whatever happens the NFL and the Chiefs will bear some of the responsibility.

This has nothing to do with helping Hill and anyone he's involved with, and you know that. The only responsibility the NFL and Chiefs will have is moral. And there are basically no repurcussions to that right now. Maybe that'll change in the future but as long as the game stays exciting and viewership stays high then folks who aren't charged or have a video will be able to play.

I don't know how you guys expect them to police that when they have there hands full with much more serious crimes. Just think how out of control everything would get if all these pot smoking junkies went unpunished.

Listen, I heard Tyreek Hill's kid was deflating footballs. He was asking for it.

Ah, NFL, your policies make so much sense.

Speaking of DV and dependents, AP is broke.

Top_Shelf wrote:

Speaking of DV and dependents, AP is broke.

And not just broke, but still owing millions on a defaulted loan.

Supposedly Peterson has been taken advantage of, according to his investment fraud lawyer.

According to Spotrac, Peterson has taken home $104 million in career earnings, which of course doesn't include the numerous endorsement deals he's had over his career on top of those. (The WaPo article says $99.2 million, but that's only the total Peterson earned as a Viking).

Maybe Peterson was swindled, but somehow I think that was just a drop in the bucket in terms of how much of Peterson's career earnings have been blown.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Hue Jackson is so damn ignorant.

Jackson also defended the decision to make Tyrod Taylor the starting quarterback for Week One, arguing that Jackson told the players that Taylor was the starter and that Jackson couldn’t go back on that. Until, of course, he did.

“As I told Baker, at some point in time, it will show itself,” Jackson said of Mayfield eventually playing. “I didn’t know how it was gonna happen, but I knew he was gonna end up playing. It’s unfortunate that Tyrod got hurt, he became the starter. And people forget, if I didn’t want him to play, I could have put Tyrod back in there. So obviously I knew it was time for Baker to be the guy. I left him in there. So I really, you know, I don’t think people really [get] locker rooms and teams, especially a team that was coming off being 1-31. You’ve gotta be able to keep their trust. So if I tell them something, I need to do exactly what I said I was gonna do, and then let it unfold that way. That’s the best way for your team.”

Remove your head from your ass, Hue. You aren't getting another legit NFL job until you do.

I’m looking forward to seeing how the Browns implode this year.

Spoiler:

And they will implode.

I mean the obvious answer is Baker has a sophomore slump and regresses as defenses figure out better ways to confuse them.

Packers cut Mike Daniels? Ugh.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

I’m looking forward to seeing how the Browns implode this year.

Spoiler:

And they will implode.

TheGameguru wrote:

I mean the obvious answer is Baker has a sophomore slump and regresses as defenses figure out better ways to confuse them.

I think they'll be fine. Baker is definitely going to regress a bit, but mostly because their OL got worse and he was lucky on too many passes.

Folks I work with all expect them to screw it up somehow, but that's simply a learned state of being. I think they'll be exciting to watch, which is a huge step up over prior years.

This is a team that survived one of the worst head coaches of all time, I think they'll be fine. Ownership hasn't been taking tips from random homeless folks lately, which is, again, a huge step up over prior years.

Here's a picture of Adrian Peterson arriving at his 30th birthday party:

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While I have no doubt any number of Peterson's advisers and associates have ripped him off, I'm going to just suggest Peterson might in some way be responsible for his own spending habits.

The Browns had the 30th ranked defense last year. They had some schedule and timing stuff go their way last year to make it to 7-8-1 (eg. Andy Dalton got hurt during their first game with Cincinnati, then they got to play Cincy 4 weeks later with Jeff Driskel still in there as starter. They played the Panthers late in the season, week 14, when Cam's arm was falling off).

I expect the defense will improve, but Sheldon Richardson is just OK now and isn't a one-man solution to their woeful run defense. The linebacking group is still kinda awful, even with Joggin' Jamie Collins no longer there. Christian Kirksey has backslid hard the past two years after a promising 2016.

Of course, it's going to be a new scheme with Steve Wilks as DC, but that's bringing more questions than answers. Denzel Ward was elite at man coverage, rookie Greedy Williams was one of the best man corners in the draft... and Wilks ran man coverage at the 3rd lowest rate in the NFL last year in Arizona. If Wilks adjusts, it might be good. If he forces his man coverage corners to run a zone-heavy scheme, it might not.

*Legion* wrote:

Greedy Williams

With all the Adrian Peterson's money trouble talk happening upthread, I'm curious to see Greedy's financial situation going forward just because of his name.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

While I have no doubt any number of Peterson's advisers and associates have ripped him off, I'm going to just suggest Peterson might in some way be responsible for his own spending habits.

I'm sure he got a good discount on the camel. Nobody pays sticker price for camels.

*Legion* wrote:

The Browns had the 30th ranked defense last year. They had some schedule and timing stuff go their way last year to make it to 7-8-1 (eg. Andy Dalton got hurt during their first game with Cincinnati, then they got to play Cincy 4 weeks later with Jeff Driskel still in there as starter. They played the Panthers late in the season, week 14, when Cam's arm was falling off).

I expect the defense will improve, but Sheldon Richardson is just OK now and isn't a one-man solution to their woeful run defense. The linebacking group is still kinda awful, even with Joggin' Jamie Collins no longer there. Christian Kirksey has backslid hard the past two years after a promising 2016.

Of course, it's going to be a new scheme with Steve Wilks as DC, but that's bringing more questions than answers. Denzel Ward was elite at man coverage, rookie Greedy Williams was one of the best man corners in the draft... and Wilks ran man coverage at the 3rd lowest rate in the NFL last year in Arizona. If Wilks adjusts, it might be good. If he forces his man coverage corners to run a zone-heavy scheme, it might not.

Moving from Gregg Williams to Steve Wilks is a positive, no doubt about that. Scheme issues definitely could be a problem with the CBs, but Schobert at LB is good in coverage.

Tackling was the issue with their run D. I'm not sure they addressed that in the offseason. Sheldon Richardson gives them some more depth and talent, but you are absolutely correct they may not have done nearly enough to address things.

That said, without Headhunter Williams as DC maybe they'll focus more on fundamentals and less on forcing fumbles/turnovers. One has to hope that's why the tackling was so bad and not because their players suck.

Why Your Team Sucks is up, beginning with the Cards: https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-s...

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WHICH ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO START THE TRAINING CAMP THREAD OH YEAH??

Legion is

Yall watching the new All or Nothing with the Panthers? Got through episode 1, pretty good.

https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-s...

Niners are pretty good.. I mean just with Bosa alone they are now high up on the loath list.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

While I have no doubt any number of Peterson's advisers and associates have ripped him off, I'm going to just suggest Peterson might in some way be responsible for his own spending habits.

I'm sure he got a good discount on the camel. Nobody pays sticker price for camels.

They were probably compensation for his brother-in-laws car.

TheGameguru wrote:

https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-s...

Niners are pretty good.. I mean just with Bosa alone they are now high up on the loath list.

Who knows how long it will be until Bose makes some dumb MAGA statement that alienates a huge chunk of the area but delights the secretly large contingent of racist bullsh*t in the fanbase (Usually Fresno residents that weren’t introspective enough to just root for the Raiders)?

garion333 wrote:

Yall watching the new All or Nothing with the Panthers? Got through episode 1, pretty good.

I will once the TdF is over. The commentary I've glanced at says that the series is pretty entertaining. And, of course, because Fans Are Stupid, the series proves that Cam is a moron because it doesn't ever show him studying his playbook.

garion333 wrote:

Legion is

What do you mean, I am? I got in trouble for starting this thread!

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Legion is

What do you mean, I am? I got in trouble for starting this thread!

That's when you signaled you were taking over again. It's all yours.