NFL 2019: Draft

Harvey had motivation issues, didn't he?

garion333 wrote:

Harvey had motivation issues, didn't he?

He did fairly well against the run, which takes some effort, but he certainly did not seem like an exceptionally motivated professional, no.

I would have to think Oakland had a number of drafts that could compete for this and not even honorable mention. The Bucs 2016 will probably make the list at some point:
-Vernon Hargreaves (bad)
-Noah Spence (constantly injured)
-Roberto Aguayo (Roberto Aguayo)
-Ryan Smith (he tackles on special teams sometimes)
-Caleb Benenoch (bad linemen; best career on this list)
-Devonte Bond (apparently a LB of some sort)
-Dan Vitale (FB, didn't make it out of camp)

It's amazing how a team that's bad at drafting stays bad. Odd how that works.

I miss talking about Hargreaves the little person. Amazingly, Tampa picked up his option year.

Noah Spence keeping up the proud Da'Quan Bowers tradition of 2nd round edge rushers who rush to the trainer's table.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

-Roberto Aguayo (Roberto Aguayo)

Even though I have basically only been a lurker here for a while, let me say that it's nice to have you back.

Things are happening.

Seahawks cut Kam Chancellor and Doug Baldwin, after both failed physicals.

Jags linebacker Telvin Smith is pulling an Anthony Davis, and says he will not play football in 2019, and that he could come back in 2020.

Given the pending free agents that the Jags have (Ramsey, Ngakoue, Jack), I think Telvin just made some hard choices easier for the Jaguars. They weren't likely going to be able to keep everyone, and with Ramsey and Ngakoue at premium positions, it looked like they might have a hard time keeping Myles Jack while already paying another LB the big bucks. This story is only hours old, but my early prediction is that Telvin Smith money just became Myles Jack money.

*Legion* wrote:

Things are happening.

Also, someone hit a golf ball off Jameis Winston's head. No, Jameis wasn't hit in the head with the ball. Rather, the ball was hit from a tee atop Jameis' noggin.

Enix wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Things are happening.

Also, someone hit a golf ball off Jameis Winston's head. No, Jameis wasn't hit in the head with the ball. Rather, the ball was hit from a tee atop Jameis' noggin.

guys guys guys don't wanna go out on a limb or nothin but i'm starting to suspect Jameis Winston might be kind of a dumbass

Anyone else think that maybe Arians and Licht knew about this trick shot and let it go on, hoping against hope that Winston would have a "JPP" moment?

How to witness Jameis Winston doing something stupid:

1. Watch Jameis Winston
2. Wait up to 10 minutes

Abu5217 wrote:

Anyone else think that maybe Arians and Licht knew about this trick shot and let it go on, hoping against hope that Winston would have a "JPP" moment?

Of course. It's all part of their plan.

Spoiler:

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Abu5217 wrote:

Anyone else think that maybe Arians and Licht knew about this trick shot and let it go on, hoping against hope that Winston would have a "JPP" moment?

No, I think Winston is a moron, and he makes me question the judgement of all FSU alums.

*awkward silence*

No coach and GM would let their QB potentially take that kind of shot to the head, even thought at this point I welcome Winston trying it every week.

Boy did I whiff on the thread I was intending on posting to hours ago.

I saw a notification from the NFL app that startled me:
Eagles signing former Jaguars QB

Hrdina wrote:

I saw a notification from the NFL app that startled me:
Eagles signing former Jaguars QB

Googled it. If Legion spoke about Cody Kessler I cannot recall the details or specifics. Can I get a rundown on whether I should be cautiously optimistic or praying to God that Carson can just not get injured for a change?

We're talking about the guy who was Borkle's backup. Panic is recommended.

ccesarano wrote:
Hrdina wrote:

I saw a notification from the NFL app that startled me:
Eagles signing former Jaguars QB

Googled it. If Legion spoke about Cody Kessler I cannot recall the details or specifics. Can I get a rundown on whether I should be cautiously optimistic or praying to God that Carson can just not get injured for a change?

Kessler has a noodle where his throwing arm is supposed to be. If he ends up on the field, your playbook gets reduced to running plays and curl-flats.

Also, he's from Bakersfield. He wasn't good enough to play QB for Fresno State, so he went to USC.

Panic, then, and constantly shouting and biting my nails any time someone so much as looks at Carson Wentz with aggression in their eyes.

Don't worry, it's not like Carson Wentz has had any injury problems during his short career.

*awkward silence*

Pretty sure Nate will be ahead of Kessler so I wouldn’t stress too much about it.

It's going to be a big battle royale for Philly's QB2 job, between Kessler, Sudfield, 5th round pick Clayton Thorson, and everyone's favorite AAF star Luis Perez.

Joe Flacco, class act:

"Listen, I have so many things to worry about. I'm trying to go out there and play the best football of my life,'' Flacco told reporters Monday following the Broncos' first day of organized team activities. "As far as a time constraint and all of that stuff, I'm not worried about developing guys or any of that. That is what it is. I hope he does it well. I don't look at that as my job. My job is to go win football games for this football team.''

He said basically the same sh*t about Lamar.

Saw this article today comparing Flacco to Alex Smith.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...

But the whole thing brings into stronger focus the strength of Alex Smith.

Because he did exactly what Flacco is (again, naturally) resisting. Did it twice, actually, each time in extraordinary circumstances.

First, in San Francisco, Smith was having the season of his life. He was leading the league in completion percentage, and his passer rating over 100. Then he suffered a concussion. Smith had bad luck with injuries before, including at least one concussion and an entire season that was missed because the surgeon left a wire in his shoulder.

Yes, those were dysfunctional times. Smith may have been the least prepared No. 1 overall pick in league history. He was a low-level high school recruit, and played only one game — the bowl game his last year in college — believing he’d be an NFL player.

Smith was just 20 years old when the 49ers took him first overall, and the club was an abject disaster. He had a different offensive coordinator every season until Jim Harbaugh was hired. Finally, Smith had someone who knew what they were doing. The 49ers went to the NFC Championship Game that first season but lost on a fluke special teams turnover.

The next year, the concussion. Smith did not complain about the rotten luck. When he was healthy enough to play and Harbaugh chose to stick with Colin Kaepernick, well, Smith privately seethed. But he did not complain.

He helped.

He answered questions for Kaepernick, offered advice on how to attack defenses, and generally served as an aid in the transition from unknown backup to league star.

The 49ers made it all the way to the Super Bowl that year, losing at the very end, by five yards. To this day Smith is convinced they’d have won with him playing. Maybe he’s right. We’ll never know.

The 49ers did Smith a solid, trading him to the Chiefs. Smith had known a trade was coming and he told friends he hoped it was to the Chiefs, especially after they hired Andy Reid as coach.

Smith played the best football of his career in Kansas City. The Chiefs had winning records in each of his five seasons, and made the playoffs four times. In 2017, he led the league in passer rating and — eat it, haters — was the NFL’s best statistical deep passer.

A crumbling defense wrecked that season, the Chiefs unable to keep a 21-3 playoff lead at home. By then, Smith knew he’d change teams again. He’d seen the future everyday in the quarterback room.

The season after the Chiefs traded up to take Patrick Mahomes, Smith’s first priority was always his own play. Let’s keep this honest. He didn’t martyr his own career. But he did swallow the disappointment of a team close to a Super Bowl using two first-round picks to choose someone who not only wouldn’t help that first year but would soon be the reason Smith needed to sell his house.

Mahomes has said he thought he took the game seriously when the Chiefs selected him. Thought he worked hard. Thought he knew what that life was. Then he saw Smith, and knew he had to set his alarm earlier in the morning.

Smith was not Mahomes’ tutor in 2017. More like a role model. He’d answer questions, sure, but the more important help was modeling how a QB1 lives. It’s funny. Smith would say the same about being a father. It’s not what you say, but what you model.

Anyway, Smith would text Mahomes late at night or early in the morning with his own schedule. If Mahomes wanted to do the same, cool.

Let’s be as clear as possible: this isn’t normal.

Flacco’s response, that’s normal.

Smith’s actions are the ideal, what we’d all be in our best and strongest moments. Reid said Mahomes should buy Smith a house for all the help. Pat Mahomes, Patrick’s father, spent 11 years in the big leagues. He’s seen plenty of young players called up to take plenty of veterans’ jobs.

He knows how this usually goes, which is why he made a point after the regular season finale — Patrick started in Denver with the playoff seeding already set — to stop Smith and thank him for all he did for Patrick.

“He’s a great kid,” Smith said in Pat’s retelling. “He’s going to be special.”

Smith took a lot of criticism in Kansas City. Some of it was justified, most of it part of the job, and at least a little patently absurd. Through it all, he helped save a franchise from dark times, stabilized a position that had long been in flux, won the franchise’s first playoff game in more than 20 years, and in the end helped bolster the future in ways that few of us would.

None of this is meant as criticism toward Flacco. He’s doing what humans do. What’s natural.

But those words shine light on Smith’s grace, unselfishness, and higher principles.

I think we’d all like to say we’d do the same. I think we all know the vast majority wouldn’t.

I read an article in which Pat Mahomes Sr. talked about coming up as a rookie in MLB, and asking a veteran pitcher about how he threw a certain pitch, only to be told to go to hell, that the vet wasn't helping some kid that was just going to take his job.

I was already excited that Mahomes would spend a year learning from Alex Smith, as it seemed Smith's strengths were exactly what were needed to temper Mahomes' weaknesses. It seemed like a perfect situation. Smith just took it to another level, and Chiefs fans could not appreciate him more. Part of why Mahomes had such a fat start was how Smith helped Mahomes get ready.

Same ol same J-E-T-S! Firing their GM...

whispa wrote:

Same ol same J-E-T-S! Firing their GM...

Typical.

The untold story of the Patriots is that they get homefield advantage year after year because the other three teams in the division can't get their act together.

Would even *Legion* want the Jets' GM job? On the one hand, getting into the club seems to almost certainly guarantee another gig.

On the other hand, it's the Jets.

You all are burying the lede on this one:

Just months after NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock took the Oakland Raiders' GM job, his replacement Daniel Jeremiah is under serious consideration for a prominent front-office position with the Jets, sources told Schefter.

From area scout to possible "prominent front-office position" thanks to being in TV.

garion333 wrote:
whispa wrote:

Same ol same J-E-T-S! Firing their GM...

Typical.

The untold story of the Patriots is that they get homefield advantage year after year because the other three teams in the division can't get their act together.

M-E-S-S MESS MESS MESS!

Oh snap, Patrick Peterson gets a six game ban for PEDs.

Good luck getting traded now! Actually, maybe he will, to a playoff team who wants to make a real push in the second half of the season.

Drafting Byron Murphy in round 2 makes even more sense now.

garion333 wrote:

Oh snap, Patrick Peterson gets a six game ban for PEDs.

Good luck getting traded now! Actually, maybe he will, to a playoff team who wants to make a real push in the second half of the season.

Maybe that was the hold up in the Chiefs trading for him. I think he would still be a good add now, especially if the price drops.