Things you should know by now, but only just discovered

Keithustus wrote:
Chairman_Mao wrote:

being able to move the copy/paste menu out of the way so I can push the buttons :)

My iPhone XS cannot do that.

Is there a particular web browser that has a similar feature?

Chairman_Mao wrote:

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Discovered this a while ago just got lazy figuring out how to show it. Sure makes it easier to post stuff on gwj! Not sure if non Samsung phones do this (my old Moto doesn't)

I still can’t tell how to do that...?

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

I still can’t tell how to do that...?

Highlight the text you want to add a link to to make the menu appear, and then you can drag the menu around with a finger.

Is it a glitch or as intended?

Keithustus wrote:
Chairman_Mao wrote:

being able to move the copy/paste menu out of the way so I can push the buttons :)

My iPhone XS cannot do that.

Judging from the keyboard, that's an Android phone, not an iOS device.

RawkGWJ wrote:

Is there a particular web browser that has a similar feature?

I think the contextual menu is part of the mobile OS, not the browser, since it also appears in any box you can enter text in, not just browser apps.

Chairman_Mao wrote:
Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

I still can’t tell how to do that...?

Highlight the text you want to add a link to to make the menu appear, and then you can drag the menu around with a finger.

Tried it... didn’t work on iPhone 6S plus

Correct that it's an Android device, S8+

Android Pixel (1) XL won't let me do that, and it's as up to date as Google will let it be.

Pixel 2 XL doesn't seem to do it either.

Must be a Samsung thing?

I just realized you can @ someone in the body of an email on desktop Outlook (on Windows at least) and it will add that person to the "To" field automatically.

PaladinTom wrote:

I just realized you can @ someone in the body of an email on desktop Outlook (on Windows at least) and it will add that person to the "To" field automatically.

Yes, and the recipient can see they've been added (atted?). It's O365 or Office 2019 only though.

Neat IMGUR post about The Black Gate - Morannon.

I love the drawings from the Lord of the Rings stuff.

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I followed the links to some other posts by the same author. Even having read the books, there are some nice summaries of story threads that span multiple ages from the Silmarillion to LOTR.

Galadriel's three hairs to Gimli

A cross between a pug and a beagle is called a puggle.

Higgledy wrote:

A cross between a pug and a beagle is called a puggle.

We bought a Sharpuggle (Sharpei, pug, beagle) shortly before Xmas. Despite the latest "designer breed" fad, they've apparently been a thing since the 70s and are recognized by the American Kennel Club and were originally bred to be a smaller Sharpei without the common health issues. We had two Sharpei-bull mastiff mixes over the last 12 years or so and absolutely loved them, but no longer have the space for something that big.

After having time to grieve for our second that died just before Xmas 2017, we decided we wanted another. She mostly looks like a small 17lb Sharpei, but has the coloring of a beagle and the curly tail of a pug. Her favorite nap spot is to use the couch back cushions to lay across my shoulders.

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Edit: if you've gamed with me in the last 6 months, this is who you always hear snoring.

vypre wrote:

Edit: if you've gamed with me in the last 6 months, this is who you always hear snoring.

Well now I want to play a game.

I've just discovered that there may be a culture clash between the US and the UK concerning the usage of 'Devil's Advocate' in a debate. Where the US sees it as sensationalist hostility, an attack, the UK sees it as a simple test of stance that does not necessarily indicate disagreement.

This literally brought about the most profound penny drop I've ever had. I can think back to so many instances that I couldn't piece together.

It came about from opinions on the interview dust up between Andrew Neil and Ben Shapiro. In a nutshell this Shapiro character became angry and concluded the interview due to Neil's contrarian style. All the while I'm wondering what triggered the US chap as it was a standard acceptable approach, at least in the UK.

Huh....when did it become sensationalist hostility in the U.S.? If U.S. politics, screw 'em, ignore 'em.

I've never thought of devils advocate as anything but "a simple test of stance that does not necessarily indicate disagreement". Maybe I'm british and didn't realize it? I do like the way they speak, but I hate soccer and refuse to call it futbol.

Same here. It's taking up a hypothetical opposing position to find and fix the flaws in your arguments. I think the issue is that people have lately begun using it as an excuse to be a jerk, kind of like "I was just kidding." "Oh, I was just playing Devil's Advocate."

Ya, I've never interpreted it as "hostile" either (east coast, USA). Just a way of viewing the other side of the issue or for the sake of the debate.

The problem is American devils are much bigger assholes than British devils.

It was a subtle eureka moment for me when following the fallout commentary, and the response from Shapiro himself. They spelt this out and I couldn't believe I had never even considered it before. Not even as a possibility to dismiss.

The popular rebuttal to devil's advocate is to assume someone is using it with insincerity and that they should no longer be engaged with. Which is exactly what Shapiro assumed and proceeded to do. Which is also predominantly if not uniquely my experience with not of the UK folks verses UK born and bred.

It is of course something to take with a pinch of salt as it will not, quite obviously, pertain to everyone. The point being it was something (just something) I should've stumbled upon before now, even as a theory, yet somehow had not.

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I've lived in the US for 55 years, in the Midwest and on the East Coast. I've never heard "devil's advocate" in any other sense than "taking the opposite side of the argument to balance out the debate". Nothing hostile, sensationalist, or disingenuous about it. (Although certainly there are those who react hostilely to anyone with the temerity to disagree with them.)

It sounds like you're describing trolling.

RnRClown wrote:

It was a subtle eureka moment for me when following the fallout commentary, and the response from Shapiro himself. They spelt this out and I couldn't believe I had never even considered it before. Not even as a possibility to dismiss.

The popular rebuttal to devil's advocate is to assume someone is using it with insincerity and that they should no longer be engaged with. Which is exactly what Shapiro assumed and proceeded to do. Which is also predominantly if not uniquely my experience with not of the UK folks verses UK born and bred.

It is of course something to take with a pinch of salt as it will not, quite obviously, pertain to everyone. The point being it was something (just something) I should've stumbled upon before now, even as a theory, yet somehow had not.

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If you want to link to a Russian propaganda site that whose mission is to sow discord in the US and the UK, you should label it as such.

And then, don't post it in a thread outside of Debate and Discussion.

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Evan E wrote:

I've lived in the US for 55 years, in the Midwest and on the East Coast. I've never heard "devil's advocate" in any other sense than "taking the opposite side of the argument to balance out the debate". Nothing hostile, sensationalist, or disingenuous about it. (Although certainly there are those who react hostilely to anyone with the temerity to disagree with them.)

It sounds like you're describing trolling.

I'm kinda dubious here. I know "taking the opposite side of the argument to balance out the debate" is theoretically the real meaning of "devil's advocate", but, well, I see the phrase used a lot, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone use it sincerely. In my experience it always means "I'm going to say something I know perfectly well is offensive and trolly, but I said the magic words 'devils advocate' so I have a license to pretend to be offended if you call me on it".

I've never seen anyone assume that taking an opposite stance in a debate-like discussion is bad in and of itself. I've met a ton of people - mostly on the Right, but some on the Left - who interpret identifying problems with their arguments in this way as mocking them, or "unfairly" attacking them, or some other response that indicates that they have no idea how to deal with being questioned.

Shapiro is a propagandist pretending to be a Reasonable Centrist Conservative. He's in it for the fame and money, and he's no more thinking through his positions than he can in the time it takes to write them. (This may be due to his background as a lawyer.) William F. Buckley used to spend weeks or more on his ideas, and it showed. The fact that Shapiro is heralded as an Intellectual by the American Right - and yet literally has no knowledge of one of Britain's most influential media Conservatives - speaks to how far the ideological backbone of the party has decayed.

(Just imagine Buckley sitting for an interview with someone whose background he literally had not investigated! Seriously, Ben, how can we take you seriously?)

Getting pretty P&C in here. Can we wrap this one up, please, and find some new discussion?

For example....

I just learned about Apple Pay a couple days ago. It seems to work well so far. I guess I could actually go without a wallet nowadays other than needing to put my driver’s license into my phone case. Anyone going walletless?