NFL 2019: Draft

There you go Eagles fans, there's your next tackle.

Texans take a tackle, but Tytus Howard?

Who the f*ck is Tytus Howard?
Well, at least he's an OT.

bighoppa wrote:

Who the f*ck is Tytus Howard?
Well, at least he's an OT.

Wasn't he a bad ass on the HBO series Rome?

NFL Network crew breaking out all the A Few Good Men references.

Watching ESPN is doing draft day wrong.

whispa wrote:
bighoppa wrote:

Who the f*ck is Tytus Howard?
Well, at least he's an OT.

Wasn't he a bad ass on the HBO series Rome?

The first post since the draft started that I actually had to stop and click Like on.

Josh Jacobs runs that Ron Dayne 4.65 40.

*Legion* wrote:

Josh Jacobs runs that Ron Dayne 4.65 40.

Heh I remember when Ron Dayne was picked. Big Wisconsin back that kept on getting hit at the line of scrimmage and that was that.

Well Garion, hope you're right about Marquise Brown, for your Ravens' sake.

Seattle's doing a great job trading and restocking their depleted pick collection.

Man another tackle that's not Jawaan Taylor goes.

Now I'm hoping Taylor lasts to Jacksonville's 2nd rounder.

Wow N'Keal Harry goes before DK Metcalf.

He was looked at as an early 2nd guy so last pick of round 1 is about his value.

Nasir Adderley still on the board for the 49ers to consider. Jawaan Taylor might just make it to the Jags.

Can't wait for tomorrow.

That was a less than entertaining draft, but I guess a draft filled with middling linemen isn't going to make things pop. The most entertaining parts were the Raiders and Giants doing WTF moves.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

The most entertaining parts were the Raiders and Giants doing WTF moves.

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MilkmanDanimal wrote:

That was a less than entertaining draft, but I guess a draft filled with middling linemen isn't going to make things pop. The most entertaining parts were the Raiders and Giants doing WTF moves.

Yeah, I went to bed.

*Legion* wrote:

Man another tackle that's not Jawaan Taylor goes.

Now I'm hoping Taylor lasts to Jacksonville's 2nd rounder.

Reports are Taylor has a bunch of medical red flags.

*Legion* wrote:

Well Garion, hope you're right about Marquise Brown, for your Ravens' sake.

He's worth the risk, but especially at the spot he was drafted. Good value at that point but I am a tad surprised they didn't take Sweat.

There's something to be said with trading down and still getting a marquee WR.

Packers could be lining up with a defense where 7/11 players were sourced from last draft, this draft and FAs. 2/2/3 respectively.

Weakest spot is now ILB. I guess the obvious strategy is to actually attempt murder on other NFC North QBs and just give Rodgers a 1-2 positive turnover advantage each game.

Next holes to fill are TE and O line depth. I can live with that. With so many potential holes to fill tho the move up on Savage is questionable. Rumor was he might of been snapped up by the Colts.

Have to trust the process that they looked at the 4th round and by then this draft gets skinny for what they want/need.

In non-Draft news looks like Tyreek Hill will be suspended and more than likely looking for a new team.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...

TheGameguru wrote:

In non-Draft news looks like Tyreek Hill will be suspended and more than likely looking for a new team.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...

I would like to believe he's fully toast in the NFL, but he'll be a Brown next year.

At this point, f*ck Tyreek Hill. Hopefully he'll mature and be a decent person and parent, but I doubt it at this point.

TheGameguru wrote:

In non-Draft news looks like Tyreek Hill will be suspended and more than likely looking for a new team.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...

It's good that after the Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill experiences, the Chiefs went out and traded for an upstanding citizen like Frank Clark.

I read this article yesterday on the domestic violence policies and it gave an interesting take with evidence.

Zero Tolerance For Domestic Violence Will Only Make It Worse

If the league is serious about ending domestic violence in its ranks, it must rehabilitate instead of punish, they say. Penalties should be less draconian, so wives don’t worry about ending their husbands’ careers or threatening their families’ livelihoods. “They use [the NFL’s current policies] as leverage against you,” says the ex-wife of the Saints player. “There’s abuse on every team. Everybody knows, but you know not to tell.” Ultimately, she says, the case against Ray Rice has made the NFL less safe for women:

“You will hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forward.”

After a nights sleep and more thought, I am not pissed anymore about the Giants picks. Read that Washington, Denver, Miami, Cincinnati were interested in QB Jones so I am ok with it. It bothered me that they too him with the 6th pick where there were some great defensive prospects but if it pans out, they got their franchise QB. Adding the DT and CB late in the round, they may have gotten two immediate starters as well.

Really curious where Josh Rosen ends up now.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I read this article yesterday on the domestic violence policies and it gave an interesting take with evidence.

Zero Tolerance For Domestic Violence Will Only Make It Worse

If the league is serious about ending domestic violence in its ranks, it must rehabilitate instead of punish, they say. Penalties should be less draconian, so wives don’t worry about ending their husbands’ careers or threatening their families’ livelihoods. “They use [the NFL’s current policies] as leverage against you,” says the ex-wife of the Saints player. “There’s abuse on every team. Everybody knows, but you know not to tell.” Ultimately, she says, the case against Ray Rice has made the NFL less safe for women:

“You will hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forward.”

Yeah, that's all certainly true, and in this case I was thinking more about his son than I was that he also beat her when she was pregnant years ago.

Player-conduct policies are about image control, crisis management, and public relations, with an added dash of labor control. They are not about making players better people.

Absolutely, which is why I hope he gets help, but I seriously doubt it.

Edit: This

At this point I sorta agree.. I think the absolute punishment is going to cause more women harm than good but the true problem is probably more in line with the system that continues to reward and hide rather than actually helping and rehabilitating.

I would love to see what steps the Chiefs did knowing the Hill issues to rehabilitate and get him MANDATORY therapy and making him put in the work.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

In non-Draft news looks like Tyreek Hill will be suspended and more than likely looking for a new team.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...

It's good that after the Kareem Hunt and Tyreek Hill experiences, the Chiefs went out and traded for an upstanding citizen like Frank Clark.

I already made that joke when it happened. You should've been here.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I read this article yesterday on the domestic violence policies and it gave an interesting take with evidence.

Zero Tolerance For Domestic Violence Will Only Make It Worse

If the league is serious about ending domestic violence in its ranks, it must rehabilitate instead of punish, they say. Penalties should be less draconian, so wives don’t worry about ending their husbands’ careers or threatening their families’ livelihoods. “They use [the NFL’s current policies] as leverage against you,” says the ex-wife of the Saints player. “There’s abuse on every team. Everybody knows, but you know not to tell.” Ultimately, she says, the case against Ray Rice has made the NFL less safe for women:

“You will hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forward.”

For substance abuse, I am 100% on board with the rehabilitative, non-punitive approach.

For domestic violence, I have zero faith that the NFL's system would amount to anything more than a glorified cover-up program.

*Legion* wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

I read this article yesterday on the domestic violence policies and it gave an interesting take with evidence.

Zero Tolerance For Domestic Violence Will Only Make It Worse

If the league is serious about ending domestic violence in its ranks, it must rehabilitate instead of punish, they say. Penalties should be less draconian, so wives don’t worry about ending their husbands’ careers or threatening their families’ livelihoods. “They use [the NFL’s current policies] as leverage against you,” says the ex-wife of the Saints player. “There’s abuse on every team. Everybody knows, but you know not to tell.” Ultimately, she says, the case against Ray Rice has made the NFL less safe for women:

“You will hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forward.”

For substance abuse, I am 100% on board with the rehabilitative, non-punitive approach.

For domestic violence, I have zero faith that the NFL's system would amount to anything more than a glorified cover-up program.

I'm surprised you feel like they would do much for substance abused considering NFL doctors give out pain pills like candy.

Has someone written an article about how Washington now has four QBs on their roster that likely adds up to more money than they would've given to Cousins if they had just signed him to a long-term deal?

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

I read this article yesterday on the domestic violence policies and it gave an interesting take with evidence.

Zero Tolerance For Domestic Violence Will Only Make It Worse

If the league is serious about ending domestic violence in its ranks, it must rehabilitate instead of punish, they say. Penalties should be less draconian, so wives don’t worry about ending their husbands’ careers or threatening their families’ livelihoods. “They use [the NFL’s current policies] as leverage against you,” says the ex-wife of the Saints player. “There’s abuse on every team. Everybody knows, but you know not to tell.” Ultimately, she says, the case against Ray Rice has made the NFL less safe for women:

“You will hear of a wife murdered before you hear another one come forward.”

For substance abuse, I am 100% on board with the rehabilitative, non-punitive approach.

For domestic violence, I have zero faith that the NFL's system would amount to anything more than a glorified cover-up program.

I'm surprised you feel like they would do much for substance abused considering NFL doctors give out pain pills like candy.

I think substance abuse has a better chance solely because of public reaction.

It'd be much, much easier for the NFL to sell fans on treating Josh Gordon than it would be on treating Ray Rice.

whispa wrote:

After a nights sleep and more thought, I am not pissed anymore about the Giants picks. Read that Washington, Denver, Miami, Cincinnati were interested in QB Jones so I am ok with it. It bothered me that they too him with the 6th pick where there were some great defensive prospects but if it pans out, they got their franchise QB.

Dwayne Haskins' yards/attempt in college was 9.1, Kyler Murray was 10.4. Daniel Jones?

6.4.

Um.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Dwayne Haskins' yards/attempt in college was 9.1, Kyler Murray was 10.4. Daniel Jones?

6.4.

Um.

Yup. I called him a cross between Eli and Alex Smith, and this is what I was talking about.

Watching Jones and then seeing how he was evaluated elsewhere kept bringing to mind the line in Moneyball: "If he's a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good? (...) So he's gonna be a good hitter when we put him up against big-league guys?"