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Previous incarnations of Cleveland/P&C/D&D have had an image thread, to handle political cartoons and other image-based stuff that doesn't belong in the general post-a-picture threads.

If any of them spawn an extended discussion, please spawn it off into its own thread. Replies to non-picture replies should take the form of a link pointing to a post on a different discussion thread.

And I shouldn't have to say it, but the images still need to abide by the rules.

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Then Dr. Eugene Gu detailed examples of Trump's questionable behavior...

Tweeted the man who's going to spend another 3.4 million tax dollars to run off to Florida for a long weekend just a few hours after claiming there's a grave national emergency.

OG_slinger wrote:

Tweeted the man who's going to spend another 3.4 million tax dollars to run off to Florida for a long weekend just a few hours after claiming there's a grave national emergency.

Then why did he spend $50k on a new golf simulator?

sometimesdee wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:

Tweeted the man who's going to spend another 3.4 million tax dollars to run off to Florida for a long weekend just a few hours after claiming there's a grave national emergency.

Then why did he spend $50k on a new golf simulator?

Because in the simulator, no one can photograph you cheating.

10K of it is also for the software changes so it says 'Great shot!' no matter what he does.

Let's buy him all the simulators we can.

cheeze_pavilion wrote:

Let's buy him all the simulators we can.

Buy him a White House simulator

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Cripes if that doesn't cut to the chase in short order...

muttonchop wrote:
cheeze_pavilion wrote:

Let's buy him all the simulators we can.

Buy him a White House simulator

The Trump Show... That would be something amazing to pull off.

farley3k wrote:

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Eh...

What am I missing cheeze, I don't see anything obvious in there that conflicts with the post or German patriotism?

LeapingGnome wrote:

What am I missing cheeze, I don't see anything obvious in there that conflicts with the post or German patriotism?

Germany's economic prosperity that stands behind that post's claims of German 'patriotism' was in part the product of non-German immigrants who were excluded for decades from equal treatment as members of the German community they helped make possible.

edit: i.e. it's easy to think of yourself as 'patriotic' when you exclude the challenges of non-Anglo-Saxons from your narrative. Just ask an American!

edit: i.e. it's easy to think of yourself as 'patriotic' when you exclude the challenges of non-Anglo-Saxons from your narrative. Just ask an American!

But certainly the German way is better if you provide healthcare and education for your citizens than if you do it the American "Sucks to be you!" way?

fangblackbone wrote:
edit: i.e. it's easy to think of yourself as 'patriotic' when you exclude the challenges of non-Anglo-Saxons from your narrative. Just ask an American!

But certainly the German way is better if you provide healthcare and education for your citizens than if you do it the American "Sucks to be you!" way?

The thing you're missing is that in the German model, the path from immigrant to citizen is long, and those benefits don't necessarily kick in until the end of that path.

fangblackbone wrote:
edit: i.e. it's easy to think of yourself as 'patriotic' when you exclude the challenges of non-Anglo-Saxons from your narrative. Just ask an American!

But certainly the German way is better if you provide healthcare and education for your citizens than if you do it the American "Sucks to be you!" way?

Yes, but misleading if the topic is 'patriotism' and country-to-country comparisons if you leave out how you are paying for those social welfare programs and whether everyone who makes that prosperity possible is getting treated equally.

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cheeze_pavilion wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:
edit: i.e. it's easy to think of yourself as 'patriotic' when you exclude the challenges of non-Anglo-Saxons from your narrative. Just ask an American!

But certainly the German way is better if you provide healthcare and education for your citizens than if you do it the American "Sucks to be you!" way?

Yes, but misleading if the topic is 'patriotism' and country-to-country comparisons if you leave out how you are paying for those social welfare programs and whether everyone who makes that prosperity possible is getting treated equally.

So some people getting social programs and others having a long path to potentially get them is worse than nobody getting social programs?

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
cheeze_pavilion wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:
edit: i.e. it's easy to think of yourself as 'patriotic' when you exclude the challenges of non-Anglo-Saxons from your narrative. Just ask an American!

But certainly the German way is better if you provide healthcare and education for your citizens than if you do it the American "Sucks to be you!" way?

Yes, but misleading if the topic is 'patriotism' and country-to-country comparisons if you leave out how you are paying for those social welfare programs and whether everyone who makes that prosperity possible is getting treated equally.

So some people getting social programs and others having a long path to potentially get them is worse than nobody getting social programs?

NOBODY WINS!

In all seriousness, the original picture was about 'patriotism'. If that's getting lost, though, and you're curious about the general question of Social Programs: Yea or Nay, then my answer is yes: social programs.

TL:DR - Patriotism is a wishy-washy word, the precise definition of which is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm going to venture that patriotism, at least, precludes giving up your country's economic rights to a foreign power and then defending that power over the interests of your own people.

PATRIOTISM, n.

Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name.

In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.

(Bierce)

It's probably just the light on his face but it looks like he has vitiligo.

Chairman_Mao wrote:

It's probably just the light on his face but it looks like he has vitiligo.

It's probably the light...though it also appears to be a rare picture with less of his orange tan applied.

The "motivational" Trump poster hanging on the wall really ties everything together.

Nothing sets off the flavor of a good steak like ketchup.

He’s wearing all tan. Isn’t that supposed to be some sort of scandal?

He's definitely putting that ketchup on his omelette.