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maverickz wrote:

So, no, you were not an asshole. But. In schools where leg locks are either taboo or looked down on, of which there are plenty, the use of leg locks against white belts is even more looked down on. Not illegal, not dick move, but people get weird with leg locks. Unfortunately. I just avoid legs with white belts in general.

They TEACH leg locks to white belts here. I have had two stripers immediately sit to double seated the moment I sit down.

maverickz wrote:

Oh and as far as teaching, during rolling out otherwise, I don't like talking at all. So I tend not to unless asked a specific question. I don't go to class to be social at all really so the less talking that happens the happier I am.

I guess I just come from a very different school culture. Back at my old school, it was pretty common to trash talk during a roll, but you knew it was coming from a place of love. It would not be uncommon for even a black belt to tell you to "smell the crossface" as he gave you the shoulder of justice. It made it fun and kept things light.

Paleocon wrote:
maverickz wrote:

So, no, you were not an asshole. But. In schools where leg locks are either taboo or looked down on, of which there are plenty, the use of leg locks against white belts is even more looked down on. Not illegal, not dick move, but people get weird with leg locks. Unfortunately. I just avoid legs with white belts in general.

They TEACH leg locks to white belts here. I have had two stripers immediately sit to double seated the moment I sit down.

Then it sounds like that white belt had a case of the ego. He'll get over it.

Paleocon wrote:
maverickz wrote:

Oh and as far as teaching, during rolling out otherwise, I don't like talking at all. So I tend not to unless asked a specific question. I don't go to class to be social at all really so the less talking that happens the happier I am.

I guess I just come from a very different school culture. Back at my old school, it was pretty common to trash talk during a roll, but you knew it was coming from a place of love. It would not be uncommon for even a black belt to tell you to "smell the crossface" as he gave you the shoulder of justice. It made it fun and kept things light.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. But that's a personal preference. But I also find most shut giving and talking distasteful, not just in jiujitsu.

I very much enjoy the social aspect. It's hard to analyze motion without asking questions, and chatting with people comes naturally from that.

As long as we are still rolling and not JUST talking, I really enjoy keeping things light and a little trash talk is all part of that. Some of my favorite rolls have felt like Inego vs. Wesley.

I don't trash talk - and I'm a white belt in BJJ, for whatever it's worth -- but I do find teaching/talking during a roll to be natural. That likely comes from being a 2nd degree black belt in something else; when I see/feel something, I usually talk AND show it simultaneously.

I tend to verbalize as well, often at my own expense.

Ya'll some Talkative Tonys over here.

Anyone ever have sore collarbones after a tough roll?

Paleocon wrote:

Anyone ever have sore collarbones after a tough roll?

Can't say that I have - neck yes, shoulders all the time. But not the actual collarbone

I made the comment "If YouTube has taught me anything, it is that 'street fighters' can't fight for sh*t" on a message board and the butthurt is simply delicious.

This was a really touching video. And also very relatable.

That's fantastic, Mav, thanks for sharing.

I've thought about trying to find a place to train again so many times over the years. These last five years dealing with cancer and surgeries and herniated surgical sites make it seam father away than ever. I really hope I can get healthy enough to do it again, because I really want to share MA with my daughter. So much of who I am was wrapped in training and studying philosophy when I was younger. It changed me completely as a person. I want her to have that opportunity earlier than I did if possible. I was a late bloomer, and I regret a lot of things I did and said as a teen and young adult. It wasn't until I started training in my early 20s that a lot of that was corrected, and I credit MA and my sensei with most of it.

A quick guide for new people on how to tie a good tight belt.
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Now *everyone* will want to roll with me! Thanks Mav!

Robear wrote:

Now *everyone* will want to roll with me! Thanks Mav!

My pleasure, I'm here to help! Help you be the mat fashionista we all long to be.

A buddy of mine and I (who roll at different gyms) were talking about the level of trust we have to have in our training partners particularly in BJJ. I mentioned that falling backward was nothing compared to relying on someone not to murder you with any number of techniques you are trusting him/her to not execute too far.

After we had a laugh about it, we both wondered aloud if our own relationships with our wives would not benefit from sharing an activity like BJJ that relies so heavily on mutual trust. We both complained that our spouses have VERY different methods/modes of emotionally communicating and it is often difficult to establish the trust necessary to communicate with vulnerability.

Any folks here that have domestic partners they roll with? Does that seem to help?

Do you *want* to introduce an additional possible layer of stress into your relationship?

Highlights from the 2019 Pan Ams.

2:45.. sigh.

Just cause it makes me angry.

I was at a seminar where Danaher himself called double seated “that {ableist slur} position”

It's all about the unintended consequences.

I was talking to a purple belt that was complaining about "spaztic white belts" the other day. I told him that I could relate since I am currently dealing with a rib injury that is keeping me off the mat. That said, I told him that, at least in my experience, most of the spaztic stuff I did was not out of an ego driven need to dominate but rather out of a primal fear akin to drowning. My flailing or clenching was entirely involuntary and any admonition to "calm down" was as useless as telling me to control my breathing whilst being waterboarded. It wasn't until quite a bit later once I developed trust in my training partners and some expectations in the negotiation of force that I began to calm down.

This video is what I think about now when I remember what it was to be a brand new white belt rolling with an upper belt.

I hate that scene. It viscerally makes me angry and frustrated.

I've never had that panic reaction. Weird. I mean, I'm sure it'd be different if someone were actually trying to kill me, but in training...? Never.

I've been out for over a month now because I have a newborn, and it's taking its toll on my psyche. I feel like that was some past life. It's so strange.

As far as panic reactions, I've had that once or thrice when I was a larval grappler. These days, if I have something similar to that it's when a really big person tries to crush me with their weight. And it's not so much panic as anger and frustration that someone so much bigger can't be bothered to use technique. I usually end up getting out though, but that extra boost of anger helps.

Also, the ampersand, &, is a picture of someone butt scooting in seated guard.

Gods. I have been out a week with this rib thing and I am already a crankier version of myself I barely recognize. Godspeed to you.

I spoke to my instructor about the whole sitting to double seated and the annoyance I have with folks who sit to guard without bothering to even attempt a takedown and he said "if you can't pass guard, you can't do jiu jitsu".

He does have a point.

Paleocon wrote:

Gods. I have been out a week with this rib thing and I am already a crankier version of myself I barely recognize. Godspeed to you.

I spoke to my instructor about the whole sitting to double seated and the annoyance I have with folks who sit to guard without bothering to even attempt a takedown and he said "if you can't pass guard, you can't do jiu jitsu".

He does have a point.

I've heard that before, and I always found it a bit of a straw man. If that's the case, then we should stop training submissions too. Just have all matches be guard passing only.

Also, it comes off as a weird form of gatekeeping to me. Knowing how to get to the ground is as much a part of grappling as the guard and submissions.