Help me build my PC 2017 Catch All

How will you know if it worked? Is it still a guessing game?

Rykin wrote:

Nvidia has announced G-Sync will support for some FreeSync monitors.

They have given 12 FreeSync monitors a G-Sync Compatible certification and they are releasing a new version of the control panel that will allow you to try to enable G-Sync on any monitor that supports Variable Refresh Rates.

For VRR monitors yet to be validated as G-SYNC Compatible, a new NVIDIA Control Panel option will enable owners to try and switch the tech on - it may work, it may work partly, or it may not work at all.

That's pretty cool. I have an ASUS MG279Q (currently on loan to my son), the IPS version of the TN-panel MG278Q, which is on the compatible list. Will have to try the control panel on my son's 1070 Ti and see how it fares.

Wonder if they will add the upcoming VRR TV's. And if it can even work, when they decided not to have hdmi 2.1 on their GPUs...

Shadout wrote:

Wonder if they will add the upcoming VRR TV's. And if it can even work, when they decided not to have hdmi 2.1 on their GPUs...

Display Port is usually the answer here. It seems to be becoming more common on TVs in the past year or so. And even if the TV doesn't have Display Port but does have the compatible HDMI 2.1 ports then the right adapter/cable should work.

I'm not sure if this means the video card I linked is a bad deal, or if it's not worth an answer

Sorry if I'm being overly sensitive, I rely on you all quite a bit, and I'm kind of lost without your perspective on pc hardware.

Dakuna wrote:

Can someone tell me please if this is a good card to purchase for the price? It's the lowest price I've seen on a 6gb 1060 so far, but I don't know enough about the extras to tell the difference.

Note this is Canadian dollars and economy.

Newegg Zotac Geforce GTX 1060

I would rather get an RX580.. slightly better performance in most games

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...

Dakuna wrote:

I'm not sure if this means the video card I linked is a bad deal, or if it's not worth an answer

Sorry if I'm being overly sensitive, I rely on you all quite a bit, and I'm kind of lost without your perspective on pc hardware.

Seems like a decent deal to me if you decided on a 1060, which are good value. If the price was equal I would get a different brand, just personal preference, but I bet others like EVGA are more expensive.

The Nvida 2060 just got officially announced today too.

$349 for a 2060? No thanks!
I love my rx 580 I got for $220...
I thought 1060's were going for $200 these days? $289 seems very steep.

fang - the 289 is Canada dollars.

Where's my broom?
*whistles inattentively* Nothing to see here!

IMAGE(https://i.imgur.com/fh57l3v.jpg)

Also just look at that thread title.

Yeah I can't muster the energy to go through the effort to put up builds and a new thread. Part of it is the lack of enthusiasm I have for PC gaming in general (I'm mostly an Xbox One X gamer these days) as well as lack of real innovation or upgrades in the PC Gaming space.

Well, you've helped us out so much in the past, I don't think anyone can blame you for stepping back. Thanks again for all the information and advice! You've saved me a lot of money, time and trouble over the years and I salute you for that.

Thanks all. I'm pretty emotional with family member deaths. Sorry again.

So sorry to hear that, Dakuna. Let us know how we can help.

Maybe it's time for a few of us to take over making the threads and the recommended builds. Guru has carried us for long enough, let's let him go chill with his Xbox and 4K TV and Nick Foles plushie.

*Legion* wrote:

Maybe it's time for a few of us to take over making the threads and the recommended builds. Guru has carried us for long enough, let's let him go chill with his Xbox and matrix of curved 8K TVs and Nick Foles plushie.

FTFY

I heard he has enough curved 8K TVs to cover a full 360. *excerpt from the Legend of TheGameguru*

*Legion* wrote:

Maybe it's time for a few of us to take over making the threads and the recommended builds. Guru has carried us for long enough, let's let him go chill with his Xbox and 4K TV and Nick Foles plushie.

Wait, What?!? I want a Nick Foles (and Cody Parkey) plushie!

GO IGGLES!

-BEP

TheGameguru wrote:
Dakuna wrote:

Can someone tell me please if this is a good card to purchase for the price? It's the lowest price I've seen on a 6gb 1060 so far, but I don't know enough about the extras to tell the difference.

Note this is Canadian dollars and economy.

Newegg Zotac Geforce GTX 1060

I would rather get an RX580.. slightly better performance in most games

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...

I concur, but just keep in mind that the Nvidia cards are less power-hungry. So if you have a slightly older PSU, Dakuna, check if it can handle the RX580. If yes, and you're okay with dumping more CO2 in the atmosphere you monster (kidding!), than the RX580 is probably a better deal.

dejanzie wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Dakuna wrote:

Can someone tell me please if this is a good card to purchase for the price? It's the lowest price I've seen on a 6gb 1060 so far, but I don't know enough about the extras to tell the difference.

Note this is Canadian dollars and economy.

Newegg Zotac Geforce GTX 1060

I would rather get an RX580.. slightly better performance in most games

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...

I concur, but just keep in mind that the Nvidia cards are less power-hungry. So if you have a slightly older PSU, Dakuna, check if it can handle the RX580. If yes, and you're okay with dumping more CO2 in the atmosphere you monster (kidding!), than the RX580 is probably a better deal.

This is a good point the RX580 will draw around 100W extra at peak load than the 1060.

hmm good to know. Pretty sure I have way more PSU than I need but I'll double check that.

in other news, newegg is making me furious. declined payment (my fault) then continued declines despite having adequate funds in the required account, and both chat and phone call 'failed'.

So ASUS has GPUs with AIO style water cooling coming out. Jump to about 5 minutes.

Never leave Linus unsupervised in a room with any tech in it.

That might actually be a pretty effective cooler. It looks like there's quite a lot of radiative surface on it, which is what actually matters. The water itself isn't the important bit, that just moves the problem, but it looks like they're using it to move the heat to where they can solve the problem somewhat better than normal.

Present hypothesis: that card will have nice operating temps. But you better hope it never breaks, because getting replacement parts will probably be expensive, if not outright impossible.

Then there's the $2500+ price tag

TheGameguru wrote:
dejanzie wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Dakuna wrote:

Can someone tell me please if this is a good card to purchase for the price? It's the lowest price I've seen on a 6gb 1060 so far, but I don't know enough about the extras to tell the difference.

Note this is Canadian dollars and economy.

Newegg Zotac Geforce GTX 1060

I would rather get an RX580.. slightly better performance in most games

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...

I concur, but just keep in mind that the Nvidia cards are less power-hungry. So if you have a slightly older PSU, Dakuna, check if it can handle the RX580. If yes, and you're okay with dumping more CO2 in the atmosphere you monster (kidding!), than the RX580 is probably a better deal.

This is a good point the RX580 will draw around 100W extra at peak load than the 1060.

One thing to note about these Polaris GPUs: a lot of them can be run at lower voltages than what they're set to out of the box. It seems to me that AMD "improved" yields by setting the default voltage high across the board. A lot of Polaris cards will run perfectly fine undervolted, lowering their power usage (and heat output).

Undervolting isn't going to get an RX 580 down to 1060 power usage, but it can close the gap somewhat. Of course, it won't work on all Polaris cards, as the whole point of that high default voltage (in my estimation) is to get more silicon to pass QA and ship, and so some cards will in fact need that voltage.

Any Polaris owner that isn't afraid of MSI Afterburner (or AMD Wattman) should absolutely play with bumping the voltage down, though. Worst thing that will happen is the system crashes under high GPU load and needs to be rebooted.

My wife had me install a sound card in her computer. She was having some sort of difficulty with the sound on the motherboard. I trust her research on the tech side of things; I was doing the work because I have more time... and patience for troubleshooting. While I was setting it up I went into the EFI and disabled the motherboard's sound hardware; Windows gets confused enough with the Xbox controller and video cards also being sound devices, so I figured I didn't want another in the mix. Poking through the menus I got to thinking...

... should I be turning off the Intel integrated video? I didn't, because that's not the change I was there to make. But I am wondering.

Conversely, is there any advantage to be gained from plugging monitor 2 into the integrated video while the nvidia card handles the 3d game on monitor 1?

Vargen wrote:

My wife had me install a sound card in her computer. She was having some sort of difficulty with the sound on the motherboard. I trust her research on the tech side of things; I was doing the work because I have more time... and patience for troubleshooting. While I was setting it up I went into the EFI and disabled the motherboard's sound hardware; Windows gets confused enough with the Xbox controller and video cards also being sound devices, so I figured I didn't want another in the mix. Poking through the menus I got to thinking...

... should I be turning off the Intel integrated video? I didn't, because that's not the change I was there to make. But I am wondering.

Conversely, is there any advantage to be gained from plugging monitor 2 into the integrated video while the nvidia card handles the 3d game on monitor 1?

It would make any games she wants to play on multiple screens run worse probably. Also have had issues with configurations like that not playing nice. It was on Dell systems with Windows 7 mostly but they were supposed to be either fully dGPU or iGPU they didn't like trying to run off of both.