X4: Foundations Catch-all

Grenn wrote:

Ok, it's about that time. Is the Collector's Edition worth it?

If I could be sure that I'd get as much enjoyment out of Foundations as any of the X3 trilogy, then I'd have preordered the Collector's Edition before now. But after never really getting into Rebirth, I'm torn.

Especially since work is going to start using more of my time and brainpower starting next week or the week after.

Pre-launch trailer. Plus there is a good trailer on the Steam pre-purchase page.

Also...Player HQ!!!

Man - that looks really good. And we don't even have to pay 1500 dollars for JPEG ship!

I really want this. But I have Monster hunter on the PC, Path of Exile and Disgaea 5 on PC. Do I really need another time sink PC game?

But I could rebuild my empire From X3tc and from the sounds of it optimize it. My CAG and CLS fleet would once again be ruling the economy.

I guess it all come down to how much of a pain it is to get a tractor beam so I can move asteroids to make mega bases.

So this goes in the 2019 to buy column.

Spoiler:

I want this so bad

Stealthpizza wrote:

I really want this. But I have Monster hunter on the PC, Path of Exile and Disgaea 5 on PC. Do I really need another time sink PC game?

This is the weirdest question I've seen in a long time.

I too can't wait to play this. We're also having the devs on our podcast in December. Yay!

Veloxi wrote:
Stealthpizza wrote:

I really want this. But I have Monster hunter on the PC, Path of Exile and Disgaea 5 on PC. Do I really need another time sink PC game?

This is the weirdest question I've seen in a long time.

I too can't wait to play this. We're also having the devs on our podcast in December. Yay!

That's gonna be a cool podcast.

Some people go for the hard hitting questions. I aim to fill the gaps with strange questions.

I really hope this turns out well!

Ok, so the promotion ends Nov. 30th, so maybe something will move me before it drops.

I realize this is an alpha and I'm not trying to be a downer, but is there something off with the lighting? It looks flat or something. I don't know enough technical stuff to put my finger on what was sticking out to me. Something.

Whether or not to pre-order is a difficult choice for me. I really, really liked the X3 set of games a lot, I bought and played them early on. However I was quite disappointed with Rebirth, and would have been highly annoyed had I pre-ordered it. If the new game returns more to its prior mold it's very likely that I'll jump into it early enough that the pre-order bonus would have been a good call...

So, everything I'm seeing says that they learned some lessons from the Rebirth feedback. They seem to be keeping the ability to go into space stations while also allowing you to pilot any ship. They're talking about unique space stations you can build, but they haven't said anything about where they are. The fact that I could put my space station anywhere in X3 and only in a pre-arranged spot in Rebirth was truly annoying. That said, I've made my decision. I'm gonna trust Egosoft. One pre-order X4: Foundations CE coming up.

I'm still awfully likely to buy this but I'm looking to learn if I have to walk around in space stations to do stuff. I'd be happier just using contact menus like in X3 to trade & get missions & stuff. Unless there's something really fascinating on the stations it just sounds like a waste of my time when I'd rather be flying.

After a while, escape from the smell of your cockpit might be a decent motivation.

Screw it. Collector's Edition purchased.

Waiting for reviews

I'm curious about this. Looking forward to reading some reviews.

Intrigued. But cautiously so.

Reviews will seal/kill my interest.

qaraq wrote:

I'm still awfully likely to buy this but I'm looking to learn if I have to walk around in space stations to do stuff. I'd be happier just using contact menus like in X3 to trade & get missions & stuff. Unless there's something really fascinating on the stations it just sounds like a waste of my time when I'd rather be flying.

After watching a livestream today of the pre-release game it looks like you can access space station trading and missions without walking around, so that's really nice. Looks quite pretty and the streamer (Obsidian Ant) says he's getting pretty good performance and no significant bugs. I may not pick it up on release day- plenty else to do after the last sale- but probably will before my week off in December.

Livestream is looking great!!!

Any word on pre-download? I actually have Friday off and would like to start building my space empire as soon as possible.

The UI is....NICE? Wha....huh?? An Egosoft X series game has a....nice UI.

Black is white...up is down...DOGS AND CATS....LIVING TOGETHER....MASS HYSTERIA!

Edit: This is clearly just my humble opinion. I'm sure someone will find it abhorrent and the universe will be restored

Grenn wrote:

Any word on pre-download? I actually have Friday off and would like to start building my space empire as soon as possible.

They did for rebirth the day before, but it is not a big download from what I read. 12GB installed I think?

Game is gorgeous.

You can spacewalk from your ship NASA style....so cool. Yes I know Star Citizen lets you do this, but this is straight up out of a poster on my childhood wall!

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You could do that all the way back in X2, not sure if it was a thing before that.

Keys are going out tomorrow! YEAH.

Are the X games typically better with a flight stick or mouse and keyboard? I'll probably pick this up eventually if it is received well. Most likely in the summer. I have the X52 Pro but I put it away. Curious if it would be worth taking back out for this.

M&K imho

I tried joystick (a cheap Logitech stick) for X3 oh so many years ago and end up ditching it for Mouse and Keyboard. It was down to control. You needed lots of buttons while fast and accurate piloting just wasnt a concern for my play style.

Now that I have an X52 with lots of buttons (and dust) I would probably make the attempt again, but if I end up spending most of my time managing an empire, flying my capital ship, and not dog-fighting, that won't last long.