NFL 2018: Week 4

So we need to update the urban dictionary for getting borked, I guess.

Chiefs

OK the Niners game can start anytime.

Eli's career flashing before his eyes...

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We're also watching Mason Crosby's career dying.

Browns go to OT again

Rat Boy wrote:

We're also watching Mason Crosby's career dying.

Not sure why they got him to kick the 56. He only makes that on a better day. Today isn't :/

Graham Gano, on the other hand...

That almost looked short.

Oof Rosen to Kirk bomb for TD.

Panthers-Giants recap:

* Before the game starts, Eric Reid takes a knee, and the Panthers introduce their special teamers.

* OBJ throws (to Saquan) and catches a TD pass in the same game. If memory serves, no Giant had pulled off that trick since Frank Gifford in 1959 or so.

* OBJ also muffs a punt that, after bouncing off 5 or so other people, the Panthers recover in the end zone.

* Eli throws for 300+ against a D I thought (still think but reassessing) is pretty good

* And Carolina wins by 2 when Graham Gano kicks a 63-yarder with six seconds to go.

How's your Sunday?

NVM

Enix wrote:

How's your Sunday?

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Marshawn's having flashbacks.

What do you think of Pederson going for two on their last TD? They converted to make it a 6 Pontiac game, but it seems likely me a silly risk. With the time left, was the ability to tie with two FGs worth it, since they keep getting held to FGs?

Seems weird.

“Well, the Eagles do have pretty costumes.” - My wife on the end of this the end of the Eagles/Vikings game.

Jayhawker wrote:

What do you think of Pederson going for two on their last TD? They converted to make it a 6 Pontiac game, but it seems likely me a silly risk. With the time left, was the ability to tie with two FGs worth it, since they keep getting held to FGs?

Seems weird.

Win with a TD. He was going for jugular?

Enix wrote:

Panthers-Giants recap:

* Before the game starts, Eric Reid takes a knee, and the Panthers introduce their special teamers.

* OBJ throws (to Saquan) and catches a TD pass in the same game. If memory serves, no Giant had pulled off that trick since Frank Gifford in 1959 or so.

* OBJ also muffs a punt that, after bouncing off 5 or so other people, the Panthers recover in the end zone.

* Eli throws for 300+ against a D I thought (still think but reassessing) is pretty good

* And Carolina wins by 2 when Graham Gano kicks a 63-yarder with six seconds to go.

How's your Sunday?

Watching the Giants last night was deeply frustrating. I had a sense of deja vu, because they lost a few of early-season games in the 4th quarter last season (Eagles, Week 3?)

As you say, Eli had 300+ passing yards (against Newton's 237), but they felt like the wrong sort of passing yards. Also, Carolina had double the rushing yards.

The Guardian has a good article on NY travails. I can't say that I disagree with its conclusions.

Manning's had a great - and lucky - career, but he's been in decline for a number of years. And yet there still is no succession plan that I can see.

And too much money is tied up in Beckham and Barkley, IMO.

I don't think the Giants should have taken Barkley with 1.2, but it's only next year where OBJ's money begins to affect the team. And that's exactly when they're gonna cut Manning loose. His dead cap money was way too high this season to drop him. That's on management, obv.

They overpaid Vernon, which worked out well that first season, but he regressed last year and still isn't on the field this year.

Has Janoris Jenkins lived up to his contract?

How about Damon Harrison? Out of the three, I'd say Harrison is the only one that is worth what the Giants paid.

The NFL is all about offense, the Giants spend most of their money on defense and an aging QB, but it's Beckham and Barkley that are the issue? I don't know about that.

That's fair, garion333.

I should have been more specific. I fear that the Giants have too much future money tied up in one WR and one RB, at a time when the don't have a long-term QB to get the best out of them. (Frankly, I don't think there are any RBs worth as No. 2 pick and the associated contract, but that's another discussion.)

But I agree with you about the Giants spending too much on Defense in this Offense-dominated era. $10 million per year is to much for a CB these days.

EDIT: The Giants feel like an ill-conceived attempt to build a 'Win Now' team with the key pieces missing. Eli hasn't been a 'Win Now' QB for the last five years, and he's the key to unlocking the very potent offensive weapons the Giants have. And the Defense doesn't look like a 'Win Now' unit either; teams seem to grow in strength and confidence against the Giants, and that's exactly what you don't want in the current era. You want a Defense that can wind up the pressure as the game goes on, and reduce the rate of scoring.

Dan Le Batard wants to know if yesterday was Maximum Bortles.

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WTF?

This tweet has long since been deleted and replaced with something more normal and not including scabs.

garion333 wrote:

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WTF?

This tweet has long since been deleted and replaced with something more normal and not including scabs.

Is he implying he has an STD and its making me crazy? Wtf....

Edit: as in syphilis? Btw Google has some real strange searches on me.

He's implying he has balls of steel or something, but chose his words poorly.

detroit20 wrote:

EDIT: The Giants feel like an ill-conceived attempt to build a 'Win Now' team with the key pieces missing. ...

On the flip side, the Panthers are very much a win-now team, and they needed a 63-yard FG to win at home after choking away a lead.

That's the cuckoo bananas thing about the NFL: the difference between a 10-win playoff team and a 6-win stay-home-in-January team is a handful of points scored or not over the course of the season.

Y'all have a not-so-bad schedule coming up. The wins could come!

Jayhawker wrote:

Dan Le Batard wants to know if yesterday was Maximum Bortles.

I heard that today and IMMEDIATELY thought of this forum.

This is who Blake Bortles is.

He can play excellent football in bursts, and then disintegrate the next game, and then come back and play well, and then go into a funk, and so on and so on.

He's the guy that almost played well enough to get the team past the Patriots and into the Super Bowl, and he's also the guy that couldn't complete a screen pass (or any other kind for that matter) the week before that.

Being good in bursts is fine for a backup, or a starter on a rebuilding team. For the quarterback position on a team that should be in their Super Bowl window, it's a kiss of death.

They could have signed Bridgewater and had competition (and a "Plan B") for the job. I'll never understand a team in their position, with a QB who could only throw for 87 yards on wild card weekend, thinking that that move wasn't worth pursuing.

*Legion* wrote:
Enix wrote:

How's your Sunday?

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This was a pretty good week for Fat Guy Touchdowns.

The Giants are also taking a hit with a poor draft pick in OT Flowers. The guy was a wasted pick and they will pay for that pick for years to come. Eli may be cut and the Giants saving what I think is 20 mil. That's a lot so my hope is that they can get a QB next year. Who knows how Lauretta will pan out.

Vernon has been injured often and is out over a quarter of the season so far. They also spent a ton of money on Solder.

It really bums me out seeing such talent as Beckham and Barkley and still get losses. I am not bailing on GM Gettleman's philosophy of building out both sides of the line, the trenches, since I am in agreement that those two areas are key to a winning formula. They need to get bigger and more talented. Will Fernandez is a good start on the OG side and BJ Hill is a good start on the DT side. I am an old school football guy that loves smash mouth football and smothering, aggressive defense. I hope the Gmen get back to their roots.

Didn't realize Philly was turning into an emergency room.

Packers need a W vs the 49ers and that bye week bad.

Curious to see what teams do with the trade deadline after week 8. I think it will help with teams knowing if they are selling/buying. Packers need to buy or perform some sort of exorcism.

Well, if he was going to set a record, that was the way to do it.

Spoiler:

...it would have been better if it was to Thomas!