NCAA College Football 2018-19: Official Thread

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Badferret wrote:

How corch thought today's statement was going to help him, or having Zach "I beat my wife" Smith back his play would go over well. Guy is rapidly making himself or rather, showing himself to be so toxic that I now think he won't get another job coaching or even as a talking head on the Ocho.

What did you think about today's statement was bad? Seemed pretty standard to me.

Note: I am not defending him, personally I'm hoping he resigns or is dismissed. I'm just asking what about the statement might have worsened things.

Primarily from all of the reporting I've read around it. One piece I saw today went back and re-watched the presser with him last week and he denied knowledge about the 2015 beating to nine different questions.

And now his story is that he did know, but he reported it up the chain (which I am highly dubious of) and oh, at the same time that he releases his statement the wife-beater gives his own interview/statement trying to downplay the whole thing only to get blown up by McMuphy's possession of the text messages.

But my biggest issue is corch's hypocrisy. They have a freaking motto in their locker room that states "respect women."

Corch is now admitting (if we believe his story) that yes, he know about the 2009 incident and the 2015 incident but; "hey, I reported it and my superiors/police didn't do anything, so what do you want from me?"

Way to respect women there corch, you could have still decided you know what, I can't have someone around my team and players who is not living up to the values we ask of our players.

He could have decided on his own to fire him. But instead he's now saying, hey, the buck doesn't stop with me, I'm just middle management. B.S.

It's the same B.S. he rolled out after all of the investigations revealed the very questionable players and their actions at UF, including Aaron Hernandez. "Hey, I didn't know or anything I did know about their actions but we told the school, and the rest was out of my hands."

Whoo. Didn't realized I was that riled up. And that's not directed at you Fed. I really, truly hope I would be as outraged if this was a story that was in Athens.

Right. Major college coaches wield tremendous power and like it that way. Until it’s convenient to forget the power they hold in their institutions, at which point they revert to saying “I’m just an employee.”

Every coach is the CEO of their team They seek that out. They understand that. They may not like it, but that position also comes with responsibilities.

And besides, how many books have coaches written on “leadership”...without looking, I can almost guarantee that Meyer has written one. Maybe three. This was a chance to demonstrate you learned from your ghost writer, Urban.

Oh god, I just looked it up, and it’s worse than I guessed. This was published in 2015.

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While I realize this may not be appropriate due to the serious nature of the topic, but I have to commend badferret for using, and sticking with, the appropriate appellation for Meyer, that being corch. Well done my good man.

Man, sign a legendary coach for your team for the next 10 years, only to have a player unload that the guy wins by using pretty much the same tactics as Maryland. Ouch!

ESPN: Former Texas A&M LB Santino Marchiol says Jimbo Fisher's staff committed NCAA violations

Arizona linebacker Santino Marchiol, who spent his first collegiate season at Texas A&M in 2017 before recently leaving the program, told USA Today that he was given hundreds of dollars in cash by assistant coaches to host recruits on unofficial visits; the staff conducted offseason workouts that were longer than NCAA rules allow; and the training staff mishandled his own ankle injury.

To be fair, Mangino got run out of Kansas for the same stuff. Well, not paying players, but similar environments that have been alleged in Maryland and A&M. I assume that kind of environment is actually common, but isn't going to be tolerated anymore. I think this is not the last we will be hearing of hostile environments for college athletes.

Kansas didn't actually run Mangino off father violations, either. They just had a really scummy AD that thought it was a good way to run Mangino off, so he could bring in a coach he thought would generate more alumni donations. Mangino had a bad habit of being a dick to alumni.

I think this is a part of the trend that is going to spell the end of football as a dominant sport eventually. Parents don't want their kids suffering multiple concussions, and they sure as hell don't want coaches that are so caught up in "toughness" that they put their kids in harm's way. Football is one the worst sports for this kind of behavior from coaches.

Not so fast, friend:

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/col...

We were just lauded in the press a week ago for doing the right thing in a situation that actually is comparable to the situation that tragically led to that Maryland player's death.

An ankle sprain is not comparable - it's a soft tissue injury where the doctors/trainers have to rely on the patient to self-report the seriousness of their pain and limitation. And to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever died from one.

Louisville's OL assistant coach had a .16 blood alcohol DUI over the weekend. Double the legal limit in KY.

On administrative leave since Monday but expected to be fired.

You know what starts this weekend? The college football season.

Just five games, three of them involving I-AA teams (and one with two I-AA teams) and none of them worth much unless you're an alum or a college football crack fiend. But it's college football so.

Next Thursday and Friday have a mini-slate (nothing jumps out unless you're really on board with an Army-Duke matchup) followed by a full slate of Saturday games, plus good matchups on Sunday and Monday nights.

Yeah, not sure what to think about that Jimbo story. Kid wants to transfer (following Sumlin to AZ) and play immediately, so he is using new avenues to do so. Unfortunately, those avenues include throwing his old team under the bus.

While I don't doubt that something happened, I tend to think that it's probably not as bad as it's being made out to be. Worth keeping an eye on though.

Urban Meyer suspended 3 games, apparently tanks the press Q&A after the announcement.

Holy $%@ balls the details in the report.

Meyer asked a staffer after all of this began how to delete text older than a year, and all text messages older than that were in fact not found on his phone. Meyer seemingly has "memory issues" about things that he previously had extensive knowledge about, and has taken medicine that has impaired his memory.

I can't see this story is just going away.

And yeah, he came off as completely unrepentant in the Q & A.

Anyone else going to Alabama's opening game?

Disney plus a good stomping of our first opponent sounds like good fun.

Badferret wrote:

Holy $%@ balls the details in the report.

Meyer asked a staffer after all of this began how to delete text older than a year, and all text messages older than that were in fact not found on his phone. Meyer seemingly has "memory issues" about things that he previously had extensive knowledge about, and has taken medicine that has impaired his memory.

I can't see this story is just going away.

And yeah, he came off as completely unrepentant in the Q & A.

Makes sense. After all, he's had "heart trouble" in the past as well.

Rat Boy wrote:

Urban Meyer suspended 3 games, apparently tanks the press Q&A after the announcement.

Yeah, except he's only "fully suspended" for the first game. He can participate in practices for the next two. I call BS on the whole thing.

manta173 wrote:

Anyone else going to Alabama's opening game?

Disney plus a good stomping of our first opponent sounds like good fun.

Was planning to... but my wife is pregnant with our first child!

It's a girl.

Due in Dec.

So a weekend in the Orlando swamp is off the list for now.

Grats Stele!

Congrats!! I did the drive to Phoenix (20 hours each way) for the National Championship with a very pregnant wife. It was not bad because she was the one pushing it. I can't imagine it working the other way.

manta173 wrote:

Congrats!! I did the drive to Phoenix (20 hours each way) for the National Championship with a very pregnant wife. It was not bad because she was the one pushing it.

The baby or the car?

Congrats, Stele! Get all the sleep you want right now.

Stele wrote:
manta173 wrote:

Anyone else going to Alabama's opening game?

Disney plus a good stomping of our first opponent sounds like good fun.

Was planning to... but my wife is pregnant with our first child!

It's a girl.

Due in Dec.

So a weekend in the Orlando swamp is off the list for now.

Hey man, that's great news! Congrats!

After a really boring, uneventful offseason followed by the sh*tstorm that was August, I am really glad that there will be actual football this weekend. I realize it's not a great set of games, but IT'S FOOTBALL!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Disppointed Kansas, not Cal got this article, but here it is.

Good to see that the doormats of both the Pac-12 and the Big-12 are well represented on this board. Where are the Vandy, Indiana and Wake Forest fans?

Yep, the article checks out!

Used to laugh with/at Mizzou fans that would cry that the Refs/Big12/NCAA/KC Star/StL PD/ESPN hates their school. Kansas, on the other hand, seemed to always get pretty nice treatment overall. I just told Mizzou fans that maybe, just maybe, if everyone hates your school, it's not them.

I keep hoping they will figure this out, but to be honest, I can't think of anything that would actually change their course, anymore. It's just gonna take time, and lucking into the right coach and players at the right time. No one is coming to KU to play or coach football when they are in demand.

To be honest, I assumed Turner Gill was going to be great. I knew Charlie Weiss was crazy, but with the state of the program Gill left it in, I decided I would ride it out with crazy and see what happened. When Weiss' crazy plan resulted in a crap load of terrible juco guys that left the program with no scholarships too give to freshmen. I mean, not only have they not had 85 scholarships on the roster, they were running with fewer scholarship players than the 63 FCS teams have.

You can only give 25 scholarships a year. If you only have 50-60, and a quarter of them, at least, are leaving, it taking forever to just get a full roster 85 scholarship players, let alone good to great players. So Beatty will probably be done after this season, but he never really had a real chance to develop a team.

David Beaty: KU football ‘at least 3, maybe more’ years from fielding roster with 85 ‘true’ scholarship players

“We finally enter the season with 70-plus players on scholarship, which I can’t believe I’m saying that’s such a positive,” Beaty added. “But from where we came from — I don’t want to say an exact number, because it’s fluid; it’s obviously still fluid with medicals (injuries) and things that can happen. But if everything plays out the way that we expect, we should be above 70 in scholarship numbers, which is huge for us.”
This past November Beaty declined to respond with an exact figure when asked how many players were on scholarship, a few days after mentioning offhand KU was down “30-plus scholarships” in 2015, his first year as head coach.

That non-answer came weeks removed from Beaty saying during one of his Hawk Talk radio shows KU had “about 84” players on scholarship this past season, while making it clear an unspecified number of those belonged to Jayhawks who entered the program as walk-ons. Teams can reward walk-ons with scholarships after they have been in a program two years without those counting against the 25 initials allotted for each recruiting class.

Basically, affair Perkins and Gill cratered the program, Charlie Weiss came in and destroyed the ability to rebuild it, all in the midst of massive realignment going on. Nick Saban would be struggling in Lawrence, right now. But KU just got another AD this year, and unless there is a miracle, Beatty's turn in trying to rebuild the program will be over. At least the next guy will have scholarships to work with, eventually.

I know there are other programs licking their chops at the idea of picking up Beatty as an assistant coach if y'all fire him. He was a great recruiter for us.

Carlbear95 wrote:

Good to see that the doormats of both the Pac-12 and the Big-12 are well represented on this board. Where are the Vandy, Indiana and Wake Forest fans?

From Tennessee but not a Vandy fan, I'm all VOL... seeing as how we've become a doormat in the SEC I think I'm adequate representation. Well maybe this is the year we mow.

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Unfortunately I know it's not.

Oh man gotta tell my Wake Forest friends they suck.

Meanwhile on Twitter, former Ohio State coach and miserable human being Zach Smith is hiding behind his children. Twitter is going even more nuts than usual.

Yeah, he's an asshole.

The Fightin' Texas Aggies start their football season tonight, by Jimbo!

Beat the hell outta Northwestern State! 7:30pm Central on the SEC Network.