NFL 2018 Offseason Thread

*Legion* wrote:

The best line in it is at the bottom:

This interview has been edited and condensed.

In the NBA this would be just another day. The NFL could use far more "controversies" like this. The NBA has shown that the soap opera drama between players and teams is a net positive. But the NFL ownership and fan base is too old, white, and stodgy to allow players to be individuals.

Interviewer asks Ramsey which QBs he thinks are good - no mention of Bortles.

Jayhawker wrote:

But the NFL ownership and fan base is too old, white, and stodgy to allow players to be individuals.

The fact that Ramsey plays for the one team not owned or operated by a white person might support your argument.

Interviewer asks Ramsey which QBs he thinks are good - no mention of Bortles.

Keep looking. He definitely talks about Bortles.

Jayhawker wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

The best line in it is at the bottom:

This interview has been edited and condensed.

In the NBA this would be just another day. The NFL could use far more "controversies" like this. The NBA has shown that the soap opera drama between players and teams is a net positive. But the NFL ownership and fan base is too old, white, and stodgy to allow players to be individuals.

I agree but one major difference also is they hit each other for real.

If I'm a WR I'm sending opposing safeties and DBs out to dinner before games.

From a comment on the Deadspin article:

Dan Snyder is an ambulatory bag of assholes.

I love this.

Ahhhhh and from the Ramsey article

"Every year is Super Bowl or bust, really. If you ain't shooting for the Super Bowl… I mean, I guess if you're the Browns, you're shooting for a win. Or a few wins, at least."
fangblackbone wrote:
Interviewer asks Ramsey which QBs he thinks are good - no mention of Bortles.

Keep looking. He definitely talks about Bortles.

Yeah but not until the interviewer asks about Bortles

Cowboys hoping this is the year Tavon Austin becomes a complete receiver

I'm looking forward to the day when these articles are no longer written.

Course, I'm also waiting for the day when articles like this are no longer written. He's been playing ST and actually caught some balls in the most recent preseason game, but it seems everyone in Baltimore wants him gone.

garion333 wrote:

Cowboys hoping this is the year Tavon Austin becomes a complete receiver

I'm looking forward to the day when these articles are no longer written.

Course, I'm also waiting for the day when articles like this are no longer written. He's been playing ST and actually caught some balls in the most recent preseason game, but it seems everyone in Baltimore wants him gone.

I dread both days you refer to.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Cowboys hoping this is the year Tavon Austin becomes a complete receiver

I'm looking forward to the day when these articles are no longer written.

Course, I'm also waiting for the day when articles like this are no longer written. He's been playing ST and actually caught some balls in the most recent preseason game, but it seems everyone in Baltimore wants him gone.

I dread both days you refer to.

Everyone I know who even casually watches the Ravens is dumbfounded by the choice to give Perriman $650k for the privilege of cutting him on the last day of preseason ball.

John Elway said to the media that Kaepernick had his chance to be a Bronco, was offered a contract, and passed.

Yahoo Sports puts a timeline to these events to show how Elway is being disingenuous with his implication.

(hint: the opportunity that Kaepernick "blew" was joining the team in the 2016 off-season. Before the sitting or kneeling. When he still played for the Niners. And Denver was offering much less than he got when he agreed to stay in SF.)

From the Yahoo link:

Politically, some interesting things happened surrounding Kaepernick and Elway after the scuttled trade. First, Kaepernick began protesting during the national anthem, sparking an initial skewering from Trump during his campaigning for president in September of 2016. That skewering from Trump would eventually grow into a large part of his political platform as president, resulting in multiple direct and indirect political attacks on Kaepernick. In the midst of this: Elway attended Trump’s inauguration in January of 2017, then later made the monumental gesture of writing a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee (on Broncos letterhead), stumping for Trump’s first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, in March of 2017.

And of course we now have the Cardinals' owner Michael Bidwill endorsing the second Supreme Court nominee of the current administration.

Rat Boy wrote:

And of course we now have the Cardinals' owner Michael Bidwill endorsing the second Supreme Court nominee of the current administration.

If Josh Rosen came out and said something about this, he would become my favorite non-Niner-Jag player.

*Legion* wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

And of course we now have the Cardinals' owner Michael Bidwill endorsing the second Supreme Court nominee of the current administration.

If LITERALLY ANY ACTIVE PLAYER came out and said something about this, he would become my favorite non-Niner-Jag player.

FIFY

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Trade for him, Jags. Fix your stupid stupid mistake of not signing him in the first place.

*Legion* wrote:

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Trade for him, Jags. Fix your stupid stupid mistake of not signing him in the first place.

Yeah, all I've been hearing is how Darnold is on his way to be the starter. The Jets are gonna have Darnold start and he's gonna Peterman himself to 5 INTs.

The Jets are not going anywhere soon. So why not just start him?

I know the NFL trade deadline usually isn't that hot but if they played him out the gate does a playoff team snatch him as emergency backup?

Would they realistically even get more than the comp pick if they just let him walk next year?

McCown is gonna play until Darnold is "ready". That's the problem for Teddy, he's not even the guy that's going to keep the seat warm while the rookie prepares. He won't see the field without someone getting injured.

Which, to be clear, I don't think is a problem for the team. Darnold is the future and McCown is just fine until then.

I'll just never understand why any team with questions at starting QB passed on signing Teddy ahead of the Jets.

Apparently AJ McCarron looked terrible in preseason action for the Bills, before fracturing his collarbone. And apparently he was already looking bad before then.

Who could have envisioned that AJ McCarron wasn't starting QB material?

Well, that means we may see Josh Allen sooner than later, though Nathan Peterman had a great preseason game, so he's in the mix too.

*Legion* wrote:

Who could have envisioned that AJ McCarron wasn't starting QB material?.

My Browns

UpToIsomorphism wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Who could have envisioned that AJ McCarron wasn't starting QB material?.

My Browns

Sashi died to stop it from happening. In an incomprehensibly bungling manner, but I believe it was intentional, and it was the one Sashi move that I think was absolutely right.

Trading a second and a third for McCarron would have been bad. The team is so much better off having just signed Tyrod Taylor in free agency.

Once Todd Haley becomes interim head coach, they might actually win a few games with him!

*Legion* wrote:

Apparently AJ McCarron looked terrible in preseason action for the Bills, before fracturing his collarbone. And apparently he was already looking bad before then.

Who could have envisioned that AJ McCarron wasn't starting QB material?

Well, that means we may see Josh Allen sooner than later, though Nathan Peterman had a great preseason game, so he's in the mix too.

Peterman should start because Josh Allen is gonna end up on the Kizer development track otherwise.

As problematic as rooting for Tyreek Hill has been, it's really nice to see that he continues to be redeem himself by not only avoiding more trouble, but also by being a positive part of the community. I think it is important to that his ex-girlfriend was not only part of the plea agreement that is allowing his case to now be expunged, but the Chiefs did not draft Hill until after having sat down with her, as well.

Tyreek Hill’s path to redemption continues with expungement of sentence in 2014 case

In every publicly discernible public way and without a whiff of a reason to think otherwise beyond that, Tyreek Hill has been a model citizen since the Chiefs drafted him in 2016 amid enormous controversy — and impending scrutiny — after he pleaded guilty to domestic assault months before.

Whether by doing all that’s been asked of him and more, engaging with fans, launching a foundation to help underprivileged children back home in southern Georgia or conducting a fundraiser for it with a celebrity basketball game at Rockhurst University, Hill’s redemptive trajectory has been gaining momentum little by little, day by day.

But his most meaningful recent moment, one of the most significant of his young life, took place with considerably less fanfare on Wednesday in a courtroom in Stillwater, Okla.

There and then, Hill’s road to atonement took a tangible turn: His three-year deferred sentence came to an end as a Payne County judge dismissed the case against him.

In the process, the conviction was ordered expunged from his court record and his original guilty plea — in the most technical of senses — was changed back to a plea of not guilty, per the Payne County district attorney’s office.

If it might sound like semantics to some, it’s about far more than that.

It’s about a young man evidently doing everything he can to set things right in the wake of one terrible evening in December 2014 that resulted in the guilty plea to domestic assault.

It’s about a young man who has expressed contrition, followed through on every court-ordered assignment and who has been paying child support for a son he loves with the then-pregnant girlfriend he was accused of punching and choking that night.

As a young man (20 at the time of the 2014 incident) with no prior convictions, she said, Hill is one of hundreds to receive an opportunity that seems like a no-brainer but that “many don’t take advantage of.”

The fact that Hill did by fulfilling a series of court-ordered mandates — including completing four sessions of anger management, a 52-week batterers’ intervention program, a domestic violence evaluation and paying all of his fines, fees, court costs and restitution payments — suggests he is on the right trail.

“I don’t have any reason to disagree with that,” Vincent said, later adding, “Who’s to say that this wasn’t life-changing in how he looked at that part of his life?”

As for how Hill’s victim might look at this, she was unable to be reached for comment. But Vincent to some degree spoke to her perspective by noting she was part of the initial agreement to make this offer to Hill and had not conveyed any complaints since.

As it became clear his rookie year that he would be exceptional, I remember writing that the Chiefs never should have drafted Hill … but that since they had we were left to ponder this:

Can the sentiments of thinking always and first about the victim, yet hoping for the reform of the perpetrator, rationally co-exist, or does that inherently trivialize the victim?

Is it really for the greater good that the batterer be condemned forever and denied something that might provide the greatest hope to be a productive citizen? And perhaps is financially beneficial to the victim and their child?

Are compassion for his victim and wholehearted hope that Hill can have a productive life ahead and never engage in abuse again — as a football player or not — incompatible stances or wishes?

Those questions still hold, of course. But unless and until we know otherwise, the answers have looked different with each passing day – none more so than last Wednesday.

Josh Gordon is back. I'm a little surprised he didn't stay away until the cameras were fine, but glad he's back.

Elysium is at the Vikings/Jaguars preseason game right now, and he's been trolling me on Twitter with it:

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Epic.

Well I guess the first notification wasn't a fluke:

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Bear in mind I don't get a ton of NFL notifications from this app, just a couple here and there.