NCAA College Football 2018-19: Official Thread

Not football news, but since this I annually hijack this thread for talk of BBQ, figured I'd come here.

Wife and I took a 3-day trip to Kansas City this past weekend with the primary purpose of eating barbecue. With no built in biases, I must say Jayhawker's claims to KC being the best BBQ definitely have merit.

While the brisket at Franklin is still hands down the best bbq experience I've had, the burnt ends and ribs I had at Joe's, SLAPs and Q39 in KC all were amazing. The sides in KC overall were better as well, especially the beans at stalwart Arthur Bryant. Had I more time, I probably would have hit even more spots.

North Carolina BBQ that I had last year in the RDU area is unfortunately relegated to a distant 3rd. I just didn't feel it while I was there. Fried Chicken and Fish there were excellent.

Unfortunately Cal has no interesting road games this year, so other than U$C I'm probably staying home. There's a small chance I go to BYU but I probably won't be reporting on my excellent culinary adventure in SLC. Next year though is Ole Miss, flying through Memphis, so another BBQ capital that I plan on writing extensively about.

Oh and Cal is terrible at football.

Off-topic posting is welcome, Carl. Best post this thread has seen in months!

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UpToIsomorphism wrote:

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Not exactly BBQ. More like grillin’

Ego Man wrote:
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Not exactly BBQ. More like grillin’

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Now I’m hungry

And Cal's Demetris Robertson, 5-star WR from class of 2016 has decided to transfer from Cal.

While he hasn't given any indication where he's going, the good money is going back to Georgia who recruited him heavily 2 years ago.

As we are always saying at Cal...

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Carlbear95 wrote:

Not football news, but since this I annually hijack this thread for talk of BBQ, figured I'd come here.

Wife and I took a 3-day trip to Kansas City this past weekend with the primary purpose of eating barbecue. With no built in biases, I must say Jayhawker's claims to KC being the best BBQ definitely have merit.

While the brisket at Franklin is still hands down the best bbq experience I've had, the burnt ends and ribs I had at Joe's, SLAPs and Q39 in KC all were amazing. The sides in KC overall were better as well, especially the beans at stalwart Arthur Bryant. Had I more time, I probably would have hit even more spots.

Glad you enjoyed your visit to KC! You hit some great places, and Joe's seems to be among the favorite places right now. Personally, I am addicted to Gates' ribs, you got the gist of KC BBQ.

It's weird, but if you came to KC, we actually have some outstanding BBQ joints now. When we moved here in '98, all St. Louis had was really terrible chain BBQ, and some the occasional hole in there wall in the poorest neighborhoods. But in the last 10 years or so, that has changed in a major way.

Pappy's opened up downtown, and it was like a revelation to the city. It became the only place to go. But then the owners squabbled and split up, leaving one of them to open Bogarts down in Soulard. Then, like the craft beer explosion, hipsters started opening BBQ places left and right. Not all were great, but several are fantastic. We finally got one of the best ones close to us when Salt+Smoke opened up a location about a mile away. And one guy opened up The Stellar Hog in a neighborhood bar several blocks from us that has amazing brisket. A superb Tex Mex place, Taco Circus makes brisket tacos on Sundays using their brisket.

So if you come to The Lou, we'll hook you up.

Oh and Kansas is terrible at football.

Brisket tacos are excellent. If anyone travels to Austin or San Antonio, let me know and I'll point you in the direction of happiness.

And just in case anyone wants any football in our BBQ thread, Andy Staples (himself a renowned foodie who uses football as an excuse to talk grub) of SI just did a piece on the Jimbo hire:

https://www.si.com/college-football/...

Yeah, Taco Circus is owned by an Austin transplant. It is seriously great food, and the owner is awesome.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/food...

Sadly, CFB is in the news for the wrong reasons again. This time Urban Meyer is under fire at OSU for (allegedly) allowing a coach who had a habit of beating his wife to remain on the team. Based on a damning report from Brett McMurphy, Meyer is apparently meeting right now with the AD. There are many outlets speculating that he may step down (or be fired) and may not be the only one.

Amazing how anybody in literally any job is held more accountable than the f*cking POTUS these days.
"I knew a guy beat his wife and I didn't do anything" = resignation.
"I admitted to sexually assaulting women on camera" = still president

(SorryNotSorry for the P&C comment)

This t-shirt is prescient:

https://www.fanatics.com/nike-ohio-s...

Urban Meyer placed on administrative leave, per ESPN.

I’ll be interested to see if he’s back by the start of the real season.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Urban Meyer placed on administrative leave, per ESPN.

I’ll be interested to see if he’s back by the start of the real season.

I'm confused as to why Urban is facing legitimate consequences here. Basically no evidence he knew something was happening, also if he did, aside from being a sleezeball for not doing anything, what's the illegal part?

Is it only the issue with public image that put him on leave?

Read the first article by McMurphy. There are text messages between assistant coaches wives saying that Urban knew back in 2015 after the first charges were filed.

Ok, so he knew. So what? It's not his responsibility, especially if the police were involved.

Morally, yes clearly he should have done something, but legally there is no obligation to stick his neck out.

Manta, why are you hung up on illegality? Almost all firings are not as a result of breaking the law.

manta173 wrote:

Ok, so he knew. So what? It's not his responsibility, especially if the police were involved.

Actually, yes, it IS his responsibility.

It is a Title IX violation for Meyer (or his wife, who is doubly guilty as both an RN and an employee of OSU) to know about abuse and not report it to the school's Title IX office. There is no gray area here, and criminality is not necessary. I think that OSU's investigation will come down to did Meyer know and not do anything or can he reasonably convince the school that he did NOT know about the continued abuse. If it's the former, expect him to be shown the door, which is 100% the correct result.

manta, did you read the entire article from McMurphy, including the images of Courtney Smith's injuries and the text messages between Courtney Smith and Shelley Meyer? If not, perhaps you should and then maybe reconsider your defense of Meyer in this case.

By the way, here's a section of Ohio State's Title IX policy document under "Employee Duty to Report":

In addition to the requirement of reporting incidents of sexual assault, the following members of the university community have an additional obligation to report all other incidents of sexual misconduct, when they receive a disclosure of sexual misconduct or become aware of information that would lead a reasonable person to believe that sexual misconduct may have occurred involving anyone covered under this policy. These individuals must report the incident within five work days of becoming aware of such information:
1. Any human resource professional (HRP);
2. Anyone who supervises faculty, staff, students, or volunteers;
3. Chair/director; and
4. Faculty member.

Domestic violence is explicitly included under sexual misconduct in the policy. The policy does not, as far as I have read, mention what will happen should an employee fail to report.

All of this said, these are very serious allegations but at this point they are only that, allegations. I feel that OSU did the only thing they could reasonably and safely do, and I hope that their investigation is thorough and fair, and I have no problem keeping the pitchforks and torches in the closet until we have more information. I do, however, feel that it does not look too promising for Meyer.

I am absolutely not defending him (don't know where you got that idea from). I have always disliked him as a person and coach. I also believe the abuse occured. I just didn't understand why he personally was responsible especially when the police are involved.

In a normal company I would assume it to be a major HR issue if a manager fired someone for abuse when there had been no court case. (Unless I missed that part)

I understand PR is much more important at a college football program than at ACME INC., but did not know title IX had anything to do with coaching staffs off campus criminality.

If he witnessed the abuse personally then that is different, but if he and his wife did not witness it and knew it had already been reported to the police. What are they supposed to do? Firing the guy would not stop his behaviors, and the incidents were already in the police's hands.

Knowing it is actually a violation on his part to not report helps me understand the immediate suspension. I was just confused.

So the info I needed was that it's a mandatory reporting rule to the University. Sorry for my confusion. Thanks for the clarification.

Fair point re: you are not defending him and I apologize for assuming you were.

I don't know about y'all, but my employer is downright paranoid about "reputational risk" these days, quite apart from illegal behavior. We also aren't subject to Title IX (although there is some concern that IX is violating the laws against thinking machines).

Tennessee fans look at OSU and remember our last fall's coaching search...

Schiano was "vetted" by OSU, so should have been assumed to be good enough for UT. And Meyer said he was a great guy, so he must not have known about what went down at Penn State.

....err.

Now the guy isn't even good enough to be an interim coach as OSU because of his past scandal.

So points out my social media feed.

How corch thought today's statement was going to help him, or having Zach "I beat my wife" Smith back his play would go over well. Guy is rapidly making himself or rather, showing himself to be so toxic that I now think he won't get another job coaching or even as a talking head on the Ocho.

Badferret wrote:

How corch thought today's statement was going to help him, or having Zach "I beat my wife" Smith back his play would go over well. Guy is rapidly making himself or rather, showing himself to be so toxic that I now think he won't get another job coaching or even as a talking head on the Ocho.

What did you think about today's statement was bad? Seemed pretty standard to me.

Note: I am not defending him, personally I'm hoping he resigns or is dismissed. I'm just asking what about the statement might have worsened things.

Out bowling tonight and saw the wife beater on ESPN in some sit down interview.

WTF.

Then after they put up a note about how he denies hurting his wife.
Followed by McMurphy retrieved texts where he apologized for strangling his wife.

So why let the liar on TV? You have him texting his wife an apology for strangling her. He's guilty as can be.

Stele wrote:

Followed by McMurphy retrieved texts where he apologized for strangling his wife.

"That's bullsh*t! I did not hit her, I did not hit her. Oh, hai incriminating texts."