Fallout: 76 Catch-All

EverythingsTentative wrote:
Middcore wrote:

The Fallout visual style isn't art deco. Art deco started just before WW1 and basically petered out by the end of the 30's. Bioshock comes closer to the art deco aesthetic than any other game, probably (despite the fact Rapture is supposed to have been built in the late 40's).

If not art deco, what would it be? Futurism?

Edit: Googie?

Wasn’t the 50s architecture and product style considered Modern? I always thought it was Modernism, especially given the rise of advertising as a primary artistic influence in that era.

Hmm, I suppose the vault would make a good starting area for newbies if it's an MMORPG.

I think I'd like MMORPGs more if there was no raiding, no raid gear, and only discrete dungeons. A lot of MMOs seem to be focusing on having shared dungeons, and I feel like all of them have raid dungeons. I mostly like to solo or play in small groups, I have no inclination to prepare for raids or slave my night to set raiding nights or anything like that, but I also hate competing with people who have time for raiding because their gear is always so much better.

...or maybe I haven't played any MMORPGs in over 4 years so I'm clueless...

EverythingsTentative wrote:
Middcore wrote:

The Fallout visual style isn't art deco. Art deco started just before WW1 and basically petered out by the end of the 30's. Bioshock comes closer to the art deco aesthetic than any other game, probably (despite the fact Rapture is supposed to have been built in the late 40's).

If not art deco, what would it be? Futurism?

Edit: Googie?

That's probably as good a term as many.

TV Tropes calls it Raygun Gothic (mentioning art deco, the succeeding streamline moderne movement, and Googie as influences), and also suggests "Atom Punk", which I think fits the Fallout universe's fixation on nuclear power and general cynical smirking outlook pretty well.

Dare I say "Rocketbilly"?

Middcore wrote:

Dare I say "Rocketbilly"?

:thumbsup:

Conversation over.

DSGamer wrote:

Wasn’t the 50s architecture and product style considered Modern? I always thought it was Modernism, especially given the rise of advertising as a primary artistic influence in that era.

Middcore wrote:

That's probably as good a term as many.

TV Tropes calls it Raygun Gothic (mentioning art deco, the succeeding streamline moderne movement, and Googie as influences), and also suggests "Atom Punk", which I think fits the Fallout universe's fixation on nuclear power and general cynical smirking outlook pretty well.

Dare I say "Rocketbilly"?

I'm going to go ahead and say it's mostly influenced by real life streamline moderne. Raygun Gothic is probably a more accurate description, but I don't think that was ever popular IRL, but then again maybe the pre-war Fallout universe did have our same sci-fi movies and was heavily influenced by them?

Atom Punk.. I like it.

More info from Kotaku. It sounds like 76 is going to be an online survival RPG "that’s heavily inspired by games like DayZ and Rust, according to three people familiar with the project"

Uggghhh. Maybe it'll be good. But it also sounds like something I might not be interested in at all.

Some more context regarding the timeframe:
"According to Fallout lore, Vault 76 was meant to open just 20 years after the nuclear war, allowing for a far less civilized setting than previous games. Fallouts 3 and 4, which are full of cities and settlements, both take place over 200 years after the war, after much of the population has had time to reconstruct human civilization. Fallout: 76 will feel very different. As the narrator of the trailer says: “When the fighting is stopped, and the fallout has settled, you must rebuild.”

Online?

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I don't really like it but on-line sells!

A quick google search says

Here are the top 10 best-selling games of 2018 so far:
Far Cry 5.
Monster Hunter: World.
Dragon Ball: Fighterz.
Call of Duty: WWII.
Grand Theft Auto V.
NBA 2K18.
Playerunknown's Battlegrounds^
Sea Of Thieves.

The online part I'm ambivalent about, it really depends on how it's implemented and how much being online is required. If it's an expansion to their settlement system I'm certainly intrigued. I liked building bases more than I liked running around looking for enemies to shoot, but the interactivity between settlers and bases was severely lacking.

The online part kind of killed interest for me, but with that said, maybe having an online Fallout would help continue to keep Bethesda's single-player games pure from the multiplayer taint.

My understanding of the Fallout lore is that in "our" universe a Zetan ship crashed in the New Mexico desert and the reverse-engineering of it is what led to most of our technological breakthroughs, things like transistors, printed circuits and the like, and the rapid technological shifts caused rapid shifts in culture as well.

In the Fallout universe the ship *didn't* crash (well, not in 1949 anyway) and so technology continued on the path of vacuum tubes and atomic power. The post-war era culture remained because it was never threatened by rapid changes.

Wonder if they'd have an offline mode where you can tool around and be a survivalist.

I'd be down with that.

Something like The Long Dark or some such.

Aaron D. wrote:

Wonder if they'd have an offline mode where you can tool around and be a survivalist.

I'd be down with that.

Something like Fallout or some such.

I just up-voted a dunk on myself.

So strange.

Do we think this is paid subs online or free to play online?? I'd like to think that after ESO they'd shy away from the paid subs model...

I think I’d prefer my Lone Wanderer to be ... lone.

guitarlicks4 wrote:

Do we think this is paid subs online or free to play online?? I'd like to think that after ESO they'd shy away from the paid subs model...

I'm thinking (hoping) it'll be a buy once model like many of the games people think it'll be like.

guitarlicks4 wrote:

Do we think this is paid subs online or free to play online?? I'd like to think that after ESO they'd shy away from the paid subs model...

What is Elder Scrolls Online?

As for the whole aesthetic thing maybe it wasn't the style from 1950-2077, but it made a come back at some point in.

ESO started as monthly sub, but now it is Buy2Play, with the option of 'ESO Plus' that gives some benefits, but nothing game-changing.

I doubt this will be an MMORPG akin to ESO, otherwise they'd be going full-on in touting it as such. Obviously there's not a whole lot of detail out there yet, but I don't see this being that kind of MMO.

I guess we'll find out..

I could do online, depending on the community. What is the community like on Elder Scrolls Online?

Historically, it seems like F2P online games have had a better success of gaining a significant community base a la LoL and now PUBG and Fortnite. I would guess Fallout 76 is going to be something like those 2 games.

I'd like a Fallout game where you could connect with anyone you want to connect with, create trade routes, and meet up for some small group coop dungeons, and visit any settlements that are part of the trade network.

I will be very unlikely to participate in an MMO, Fallout themed or otherwise.

I'm not interested in banding together to make war on other servers or clans either.

Someone made a comparison to Rust and I was immediately like "I'm out".

JeremyK wrote:

Someone made a comparison to Rust and I was immediately like "I'm out".

Yeah I really liked rust for about 6 weeks. Then I couldn't be bothered to open it. If I was better at the combat, and if stuff didn't decay for no reason, I might be interested. Getting better at the combat isn't likely though.

Tscott wrote:

I think I’d prefer my Lone Wanderer to be ... lone.

You didn't have companions in your previous Fallout games?

farley3k wrote:

I don't really like it but on-line sells!

A quick google search says

Here are the top 10 best-selling games of 2018 so far:
Far Cry 5.
Monster Hunter: World.
Dragon Ball: Fighterz.
Call of Duty: WWII.
Grand Theft Auto V.
NBA 2K18.
Playerunknown's Battlegrounds^
Sea Of Thieves.

It still blows me away that GTAV continually makes the top ten selling games list year after year. I wonder when it will fall off?

I never played GTA (or GTA like) games.. I mean, 20 minutes twice doesn't really count, does it?

I assume the GTA V sales are kids growing old enough to convince their parents to finally buy it for them. I'd think everyone else would already own it.