The Some Like It HOT TAKES thread

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

It's pretty easy to be cavalier with others preferences and indulgences.

It’s also easy to be cavalier about what vices do and don’t affect you.

The original hot take was about societal pressure or a societal response. I’ve lost family to addiction. I don’t want to ban drugs or alcohol, but a full court press on why certain things are bad for you (and thus your family) coupled with counseling services, etc. seems long overdue and completely reasonable.

Alcohol doesn't kill people, (edit) drinkers kill people.

Smoking tobacco: bad
Chewing tobacco: an excellent means of ingesting a legal stimulant

Could just go to the source and chew niccorette! Worked with a adhd psych who recommended using it as a natural stimulant alternative to abusing Adderall.

Best heavy metal song of all time is We’re Not Going To Take It by Twisted Sister.

Hotter Take: We’re Not Going To Take It by Twisted Sister is not even a heavy metal song.

Heavy metal isn't really metal, it's harder than hard rock but less than trve metal.

It's the birthplace of metal, for sure.

Heavy metal is baby metal but Babymetal is metal.

We really putting hair bands in the same category as Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden?

Twisted Sister is more of a parody of metal, but less entertaining than Spinal Tap.

Hottest Take: "We're Not Gonna Take It" is a great song because it sounds like a punk cover of a metal song.

Jayhawker wrote:

We really putting hair bands in the same category as Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden?

Twisted Sister is more of a parody of metal, but less entertaining than Spinal Tap.

Hey, it's not my job to argue with the Metal Archives.

Yes, it is, garion. Yes, it is.

If hair band music is a parody of metal then metal is an outright caricature of itself.
Sure, I like me some metal... but in the same way I love 'the lolz'.

Weird Al doing polka covers of Hamilton: now that's très edg-ee.

Recreational Villain wrote:

If hair band music is a parody of metal then metal is an outright caricature of itself.
Sure, I like me some metal... but in the same way I love 'the lolz'.

Seriously. People took this seriously?

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Hair bands get a lot of flak for being banal, repetitive, and silly, but they were just the bubblegum pop of their era. Poison played their own instruments, but Backstreet Boys had better harmonies. They're about the same general idea, adjusted for era.

DSGamer wrote:
Recreational Villain wrote:

If hair band music is a parody of metal then metal is an outright caricature of itself.
Sure, I like me some metal... but in the same way I love 'the lolz'.

Seriously. People took this seriously?

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I invite someone less lazy, more technically savvy, and less out the door in a moment to one up that through any number of pop music album covers

As with a lot of music, depends if you catch [band] once a lifetime, once a year, or quit your job to follow 'em cross country for a decade while they toured.

Recreational Villain wrote:

^ I invite someone less lazy, more technically savvy, and less out the door in a moment to one up that with a any number of pop music album covers

As with a lot of ~music, depends if you catch [band] once a lifetime, once a year, or quit your job to follow 'em cross country for a decade while they toured.

Oh totally. I just always thought the “hardcore” aesthetic was corny. And it belied the fact that many less “hardcore” bands are every bit as metal. Listen to Prince wail on a guitar and tell me he’s “pop”.

What if peace does sell, who then is buying?

So Far, So Good... So What!

Recreational Villain wrote:

So Far, So Good... So What!

If you drop the last two words, it changes from the third Megadeth album into a Bryan Adams greatest hits compilation.

Spoiler:

HOT TAKE: Which improves it.

Jayhawker wrote:

We really putting hair bands in the same category as Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden?

In high school I put Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, and hair metal all under the category of “pop music.”

I mean, I still do, but I did then, too.

cheeze_pavilion wrote:

Hottest Take: "We're Not Gonna Take It" is a great song because it sounds like a punk cover of a metal song.

This...is shockingly apt.

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Funny how times change.

30+ years ago Snider was called before the Senate to justify the existence of what some called "porn rock".

Today you hear Ozzy, Metallica, et al on the regular between plays during "wholesome as American pie" pro-sporting events.

So strange.

Same as it’s always been.

TV couldn’t show Evis’ hips. Punk rock went from fringe to the Ramones being used in kids’ cartoons.

Hot Take: Popular music, ie "Pop" Music, is not a static genre but a catchall for whatever is popular with the 9-17 demographic at the moment.

Your favorite genre of music will never be that popular again. Call it whatever the f*ck you want, except Pop.

Jayhawker wrote:

Same as it’s always been.
TV couldn’t show Elvis’ hips. Punk rock went from fringe to the Ramones being used in kids’ cartoons.

Indeed. Even ten years ago music videos were essentially porn. I haven't looked a while; have they moved on to snuff, or is that now passé?

Cold take: Every distasteful cultural trend you find shocking today will eventually be replaced with something unimaginably worse.

Archangel wrote:

Cold take: Every distasteful cultural trend you find shocking today will eventually be replaced with something unimaginably worse.

:old:

On the plus side, trends are so fast now, we mostly don't notice.

I once sent my daughter a meme in response to something. It was topical and made sense. Here response? That meme is like, weeks old. No one is sending that anymore.

FFS, in my days, things like "Where's the beef?" lasted for years.

Jayhawker wrote:
Archangel wrote:

Cold take: Every distasteful cultural trend you find shocking today will eventually be replaced with something unimaginably worse.

:old:

On the plus side, trends are so fast now, we mostly don't notice.

I once sent my daughter a meme in response to something. It was topical and made sense. Here response? That meme is like, weeks old. No one is sending that anymore.

FFS, in my days, things like "Where's the beef?" lasted for years.

Pop culture may be one of the only things that could become faster than light.

Hobear wrote:

Pop culture may be one of the only things that could become faster than light.

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Hot take: Memes are pop culture and they're already moving at ludicrous speed.

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