MMA Catch All Thread.

Thug Rose was amazing.

Enix wrote:

The fighters are better than ever, and the matchups are good, but it has no star power, and there's zero buzz about the sport from outside until its biggest star attacks a bus.

I was an avid UFC fan for years but it was always difficult for me to legally watch the bigger name matches without spending an arm and a leg or waiting years for them to be available as an actual DVD through Netflix. Back when I had cable I could watch some 2nd and 3rd tier matches on the weekly UFC show on Spike but since I cut the cord I've mainly been relegated to watching funky cropped and edited clips on youtube and I've no desire to watch the next fighter reality show they have/had on Hulu. With something like the NBA I've got a hundred different ways I can watch whatever I want for a fairly decent price, with UFC I never felt like I had that. Now maybe that's changed now but I'd fallen away from the sport in the meantime. Heck, I've probably seen more of Rousey and Lesner since they went to the WWE and I don't even watch wrestling.

UFC would have been smarter to offer a WWE-like subscription ($10/mo, includes PPVs) or NBA League Pass. But they've oversaturated the cable market and don't offer us cord cutters enough options.

Business fail.

Paleocon wrote:

Thug Rose was amazing.

Yes!! There’s your star power. There’s your poster person.

That lady is amazing! And I totally dig the haircut.

Congrats to DC. Very happy for him.

Ya, the only sad thing is he'll retire probably before JJ gets his appeal done. In a perfect world DC would fight JJ III in October, then Brock in January, then bow out, maybe squeeze in Alex Gustafsson again at the end. Maybe Gustafsson now, then Brock, then hope JJ appeal is done? (I know Gustafsson's fighting Volkan for an interim title next month, so maybe that'll tempt DC to make time for him before Brock.)

Retweet me on that idea? https://twitter.com/keithustus/statu...

Well.

THAT happened.

Sometimes these things happen in MMA.

People these days seem to be forgetting a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

Also, if this were a just world somebody would shut the UFC down.

Reaper81 wrote:

People these days seem to be forgetting a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

In his presser, Nurmagomedov explained that he was less than pleased about McGregor insulting his religion, his country and his father (along with the bus incident) and yeah, that trifeca will catch you an asswhipping in just about any jurisdiction.

To paraphrase a Chris Rock bit (that, uh... hasn't aged great): He shouldn't have done it... but I understand.

Reminds me of when I was in the arena in Beijing in 2008 and the Cuban taekwondo competitor kicked the referee in the head intentionally. He was banned from World Taekwondo Federation and Olympic competition for life within minutes. UFC doesn't have the balls to do that though. Maybe Nevada athletic commission will, though.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...

Reaper81 wrote:

a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

Another: they're just words. Be the better man.

Lewis? More like Tony (who should now get a title shot vs McGregor)’s triumphant return after just six months after major knee surgery. I don’t think it surprised anyone that Lewis could win a fight with 20 sec left with a few big punches, and he’s clearly not close to ready for a title fight despite his ranking. But yes his interview was incredible.

Keithustus wrote:

Reminds me of when I was in the arena in Beijing in 2008 and the Cuban taekwondo competitor kicked the referee in the head intentionally. He was banned from World Taekwondo Federation and Olympic competition for life within minutes. UFC doesn't have the balls to do that though. Maybe Nevada athletic commission will, though.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...

Reaper81 wrote:

a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

Another: they're just words. Be the better man.

The fact UFC didn’t ban Conor McGregor for life following the bus incident is sick.

I am not endorsing what happened last night. The UFC created this situation by allowing McGregor’s racist, criminal behavior to run rampant.

Reaper81 wrote:
Keithustus wrote:

Reminds me of when I was in the arena in Beijing in 2008 and the Cuban taekwondo competitor kicked the referee in the head intentionally. He was banned from World Taekwondo Federation and Olympic competition for life within minutes. UFC doesn't have the balls to do that though. Maybe Nevada athletic commission will, though.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...

Reaper81 wrote:

a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

Another: they're just words. Be the better man.

The fact UFC didn’t ban Conor McGregor for life following the bus incident is sick.

I am not endorsing what happened last night. The UFC created this situation by allowing McGregor’s racist, criminal behavior to run rampant.

Precisely. This is what they get for playing favorites with a complete douchebag.

Keithustus wrote:

Lewis? More like Tony (who should now get a title shot vs McGregor)’s triumphant return after just six months after major knee surgery.

It'll be pretty outrageous if Tony doesn't get the title shot next. Unfortunately the cynic in me is half expecting Conor v Khabib 2.

Reaper81 wrote:

People these days seem to be forgetting a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

Isn't that what the fight is for? I mean, Khabib did give Conor a pretty comprehensive beatdown.

halfwaywrong wrote:
Keithustus wrote:

Lewis? More like Tony (who should now get a title shot vs McGregor)’s triumphant return after just six months after major knee surgery.

It'll be pretty outrageous if Tony doesn't get the title shot next. Unfortunately the cynic in me is half expecting Conor v Khabib 2.

Reaper81 wrote:

People these days seem to be forgetting a fundamental truth of human existence:

“Talk sh*t; get hit.”

Isn't that what the fight is for? I mean, Khabib did give Conor a pretty comprehensive beatdown.

In theory, these events should be for the sport and for entertainment.

It may be fashionable amongst the Right (again? still?) to find “entertainment” in mock others’ races and religions but people will only put up with so much before taking things into their own hands.

McGregor and his white supremicist chud crew got a little reminder.

EDIT: Which, again, UFC should have banned this piece of trash for any number of things he did and said. They didn’t. They wanted the drama and controversy and they got it.

Reaper81 wrote:

EDIT: Which, again, UFC should have banned this piece of trash for any number of things he did and said. They didn’t. They wanted the drama and controversy and they got it.

Yeah definitely. And it set a pretty terrible precedent too. Khabib should be suspended (at a minimum), but that's going to look pretty hypocritical when you consider that Conor can throw a dolly at a bus full of fighters, injuring some of them, and in return he gets a $3 million fight plus a sponsorship deal for his whiskey.

This respect sport

Yeah, well, the PPV buys are reportedly north of 2.5M -- which is to say record territory. Dana White won't do a damn thing to the only two fighters who can move the needle.

Remember: It wasn't long ago that White proclaimed that the UFC would be the biggest sport in the world, and right now MMA ranks somewhere south of cricket and poker (but above boxing, which is its own worst enemy). If McGregor's not on the card, people don't pay attention. The UFC has zero star power outside of McGregor, and White knows it.

As Renzo Gracie so eloquently put it:

“If we fight for money, we quit when you say. But if we fight for honor, we quit when I say.”

McGregor should not have been banned because of the bus dolly, so long as other violent criminal action far from the field has not kept those athletes from competing. For instance that NFL wife beater still got to play more. It's when the violence is in or near the fighting area and not against your scheduled opponent that lifetime bans should be fast and difficult to appeal, hence the Cuban ex-Olympian. But did I expect McGregor to get off so easy from his incident? No. I was expecting some real prison time of at least a few months, or something equally deserving. At least he's got a ton of civil suits against him, was obviously and egregiously wrong, and has a huge bank account, so if wherever that occurred allows punitive damages, that cash could be drained quickly.

Keithustus wrote:

McGregor should not have been banned because of the bus dolly, so long as other violent criminal action far from the field has not kept those athletes from competing. For instance that NFL wife beater still got to play more. It's when the violence is in or near the fighting area and not against your scheduled opponent that lifetime bans should be fast and difficult to appeal, hence the Cuban ex-Olympian. But did I expect McGregor to get off so easy from his incident? No. I was expecting some real prison time of at least a few months, or something equally deserving. At least he's got a ton of civil suits against him, was obviously and egregiously wrong, and has a huge bank account, so if wherever that occurred allows punitive damages, that cash could be drained quickly.

It’s wrong that other professional sports allow such individuals to participate and they should also be banned from their respective sports.

Keithustus wrote:

McGregor should not have been banned because of the bus dolly, so long as other violent criminal action far from the field has not kept those athletes from competing. For instance that NFL wife beater still got to play more. It's when the violence is in or near the fighting area and not against your scheduled opponent that lifetime bans should be fast and difficult to appeal, hence the Cuban ex-Olympian. But did I expect McGregor to get off so easy from his incident? No. I was expecting some real prison time of at least a few months, or something equally deserving. At least he's got a ton of civil suits against him, was obviously and egregiously wrong, and has a huge bank account, so if wherever that occurred allows punitive damages, that cash could be drained quickly.

Pretty sure that an NFLer would have gotten a ban of some type for assaulting a team bus at the facility that resulted in damage to other competitors that included than missing games.

Top_Shelf wrote:
Keithustus wrote:

McGregor should not have been banned because of the bus dolly, so long as other violent criminal action far from the field has not kept those athletes from competing. For instance that NFL wife beater still got to play more. It's when the violence is in or near the fighting area and not against your scheduled opponent that lifetime bans should be fast and difficult to appeal, hence the Cuban ex-Olympian. But did I expect McGregor to get off so easy from his incident? No. I was expecting some real prison time of at least a few months, or something equally deserving. At least he's got a ton of civil suits against him, was obviously and egregiously wrong, and has a huge bank account, so if wherever that occurred allows punitive damages, that cash could be drained quickly.

Pretty sure that an NFLer would have gotten a ban of some type for assaulting a team bus at the facility that resulted in damage to other competitors that included than missing games.

This.

This is not about McGregor beating his girlfriend or getting in a barroom brawl. This is about his showing up to a sanctioned event in which he was not participating and attacking a competitor and injuring other athletes. If this were boxing or even golf or tennis, I would see this being a lifetime ban.

I am trying to picture what would happen if Serena Williams, for instance, were to have thrown a hand truck through a bus where other women's tennis stars were traveling to a tournament she was not participating in. Would the WTA reward her with a mulitmilliondollar contract and an endorsement of her liquor label?

Likely not.

UFC mic'd up.

I don’t see any video.

I think that they both should be banned from the UFC for life. But if it was done in the right order, MacGregor wouldn’t have gotten this match, and Khabib would likely not have gone off the rails like a crazy train.

But as you all know, UFC values money over anything else.

There’s even talk of Jon Jones coming back! Another guy who should have been banned for life a long time ago.

With the UFC, it’s not about the quality of your character, it’s about the color of your money.