NFL 2017 Week 16 Thread

*Legion* wrote:

Bortles pick six followed by blocked XP for a Jags 2-point score.

More melting down on the Jags sideline.

UGH just don't let anyone get hurt.

They won't last long in the playoffs if this is how they react.

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Bortles pick six followed by blocked XP for a Jags 2-point score.

More melting down on the Jags sideline.

UGH just don't let anyone get hurt.

They won't last long in the playoffs if this is how they react.

Yep, I don't know exactly what was going on, but it wasn't a good look.

Jags defense tightened up considerably since then, but the Niners retake the lead after the other thing that will sink the Jags in the postseason: Bortles INT.

Trash Bortles is back.

NINERSMANIA!!!!!!!

Great onside kick by the Jags.

It's over. No one got badly hurt. OK.

Jimmy G had another game with one terrible endzone throw (the INT was caught this time) but besides that he went 70% passing and 2 TDs.

No bye for Jacksonville, but Pittsburgh probably wasn't losing to the Texans anyway.

Bortles threw for a ton of yards but 3 INTs on sh*t throws, and the defense had a load of poor discipline penalties. I expected Coughlin to come running down from the booth and start throttling people. Marrone needs to get that sh*t under control.

Jimmy is going to get paid this offseason.

Throwing some more water on the notion that the catch rules are just fine as they are. (Also on the notion that replay rules with simple benchmarks like "indisputable evidence" can be followed correctly.)

The league has repeatedly shown an inability to enforce the existing catch rules in a consistent, intuitive way, and an inability to limit replay to the standards that the rules dictate.

Simplify the catch. Throw out replay and call the game on the field.

*Legion* wrote:

The league has repeatedly shown an inability to enforce

...anything?

Rat Boy wrote:

Jimmy is going to get paid this offseason.

My prediction: Derek Carr's deal plus the standard annual inflation. So like $25.5m a year average, $45m guaranteed.

Stafford set the new high bar at $27m/yr and $60m guaranteed. Offering him the deal now would be to try and base him off of Carr's deal and not the other QB deals that will be using Stafford as the new baseline.

So did you happen to see Couglin's reaction to the infighting on the sidelines from where you were?

The real issue is where to draw the line between a drop and a fumble. That's the actual issue the NFL has been trying to address. The problem is, in their effort to eliminate cheap turnovers, they have made what constitute a catch more complicated, and the end result has been aesthetically worse than the fumbles called after a receiver got his feet down, but is immediately drilled by a defender.

The answer is to top back to the original rule, and then dictate that the rules about "making a football move" and securing the ball as they go to the ground are only applicable in the case of a possible turnover. Two feet down, or whatever else you get down that counts, is a catch, and once you go out of bounds or cross the goal line, you can no longer "drop" that ball.

*Legion* wrote:

Throwing some more water on the notion that the catch rules are just fine as they are. (Also on the notion that replay rules with simple benchmarks like "indisputable evidence" can be followed correctly.)

The league has repeatedly shown an inability to enforce the existing catch rules in a consistent, intuitive way, and an inability to limit replay to the standards that the rules dictate.

Simplify the catch. Throw out replay and call the game on the field.

The latest to get overturned in the Patriots favor was just gross.. I could maybe just maybe buy it if the call on the field was an incomplete pass. But to claim that there was indisputable evidence to overturn the call is a mockery of the very term indisputable. As it stands the only people that like the current catch rule are in New England.

Bill O'Brien Face is making my Christmas afternoon.

I'm watching clips of amateur hour the Jags fighting on the sideline.

garion333 wrote:

I'm watching clips of amateur hour the Jags fighting on the sideline.

They are hosting a playoff game this year. You can't hurt me with anything Jags this season.

Well that was a snoozer...I fell asleep sometime during halftime (seriously the Santa snowball story?) and woke up to see the Eagles score a meaningless Td at the end of the game. Pondered the fact that the Eagles would most likely be a home dog against any of the Wild Card round winners in the Divisional round. Went back to sleep dreaming about what could have been.

Interesting you call that a snoozer. My family and friend and I were all wondering what the f*ck happened to the offense. That game was won purely on the merits of the defense, which is weird considering how it was the reverse last week.

Maybe now that both parts of the team have been f*cking awful they can come together and be competent against the Cowboys to give me confidence about their chances in the play-offs.

Good gawd, the Eagles only converted 7% of 3rd downs. You aren't kidding about the offense dying. Even the Browns managed to convert 30% of their 3rd downs.

Jayhawker wrote:

The real issue is where to draw the line between a drop and a fumble. That's the actual issue the NFL has been trying to address. The problem is, in their effort to eliminate cheap turnovers, they have made what constitute a catch more complicated, and the end result has been aesthetically worse than the fumbles called after a receiver got his feet down, but is immediately drilled by a defender.

The answer is to top back to the original rule, and then dictate that the rules about "making a football move" and securing the ball as they go to the ground are only applicable in the case of a possible turnover. Two feet down, or whatever else you get down that counts, is a catch, and once you go out of bounds or cross the goal line, you can no longer "drop" that ball.

The problem with this is the league is also trying to make it seem like they care about player health. If you backed it up, you would end up with a bunch of hitting a defenseless receiver calls/fines because the incentive for the defense to hit a player hard and early in the catch mechanic would go way up.

James Harrison being a Patriot feels weird.

JeremyK wrote:

James Harrison being a Patriot feels weird.

Any weirder than Randy Moss or Junior Seau?

Much. Neither of those guys came from heated rivals.

I never felt Steelers - Pats were heated rivals. I would put Ravens or Jets in that category for NE. And the Steelers seem to play much angrier against the Bengals and Ravens.

IMAGE(http://www.baltimoreravens.com/assets/images/imported/BAL/news-articles/2015/01-January/02/07_Infographic_FlaccoBrady_instory.jpg)

That was before the Pats beat the Ravens in the Divisional game in 2015. Flacco and Brady were both equally good and bad in that game.

In my eyes the Pats rivalries in the AFC were Colts, Bronco's, Steelers, Ravens. Division rivalries are always there but let's face it the division has been mediocre at best most years with a few exceptions.

Most of the Steeler fans I know say that they love to watch games against the Ravens because it is guaranteed to be a "leave it all out on the field", smashmouth game where they play "manly football", but hate the Pats because they are 100% sure that there is some shady sh*t going on every time Bellichick takes up a clipboard.

garion333 wrote:

IMAGE(http://www.baltimoreravens.com/assets/images/imported/BAL/news-articles/2015/01-January/02/07_Infographic_FlaccoBrady_instory.jpg)

That was before the Pats beat the Ravens in the Divisional game in 2015. Flacco and Brady were both equally good and bad in that game.

Lot of good Flacco stats but it's baffling to include the road record stats. Brady barely plays on the road because they earn the #1 or #2 seed so often. I think they've had like 6 playoff road games since 2000. Weird to turn that into a negative somehow.

JeremyK wrote:

In my eyes the Pats rivalries in the AFC were Colts, Bronco's, Steelers, Ravens. Division rivalries are always there but let's face it the division has been mediocre at best most years with a few exceptions.

I guess it comes down to what "heated rivals" means to you. When I think of that, I think of games where the teams will fight to the last second tooth and nail. I just can't recall that many NE-Pitt games that have played out that way. Whenever the Steelers come to Foxboro they usually play terrible football and the press conferences are usually polite afterward.

JeremyK wrote:
garion333 wrote:

That was before the Pats beat the Ravens in the Divisional game in 2015. Flacco and Brady were both equally good and bad in that game.

Lot of good Flacco stats but it's baffling to include the road record stats. Brady barely plays on the road because they earn the #1 or #2 seed so often. I think they've had like 6 playoff road games since 2000. Weird to turn that into a negative somehow.

Because the image is from the Ravens official site, do naturally they made it look better for Joe.

I posted it cause it's funny.