Solo- A Star Wars Story

It has a name now!

Announced by Ron Howard

https://twitter.com/RealRonHoward/st...

First screen from the movie:

Spoiler:

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Alz wrote:

First screen from the movie:

Spoiler:

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Geez man.... very spoilery... although those costumes seem to be from a different time period than I thought the movie would be...

What do you know? The title matches my expectations.

I have a very bad feeling about this.

- Prequel
- Recasts two main characters
- Will probably show how Han got the scar, the vest, the cool blaster, the Wookie pal, the Millenium Falcon, the Kessel Run reputation, and probably the name.

We'll see how it goes.

On the other hand, Ron Howard is a pretty good director.

And I can hope that it's an Oceans Eleven-style heist movie without any Jedi. Narrated by Ron Howard.

I've resigned myself to the fact that we're never getting a Wraith Squadron series, so I'd settle for that instead.

Personally, I've found Ron Howard directed movies to generally be blasé. It's usually not offensive or great, but smack dab in the middle of current directing. Like, of course he's directed the Dan Brown movies.

That said, he's professional, so I doubt we'll be hearing about him having creative differences with Disney a la Colin Trevorrow.

cube wrote:

On the other hand, Ron Howard is a pretty good director.

And I can hope that it's an Oceans Eleven-style heist movie without any Jedi. Narrated by

...Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this mess.

I've got a bad feeling about this...

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PaladinTom wrote:

I have a very bad feeling about this.

- Prequel
- Recasts two main characters
- Will probably show how Han got the scar, the vest, the cool blaster, the Wookie pal, the Millenium Falcon, the Kessel Run reputation, and probably the name.

We'll see how it goes.

I'd be okay with all of that just to hear their explanation of why they used parsec like a measure of time.

Delbin wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

I have a very bad feeling about this.

- Prequel
- Recasts two main characters
- Will probably show how Han got the scar, the vest, the cool blaster, the Wookie pal, the Millenium Falcon, the Kessel Run reputation, and probably the name.

We'll see how it goes.

I'd be okay with all of that just to hear their explanation of why they used parsec like a measure of time.

You mean aside from Lucas being a scientifically-illiterate hack?

Jonman wrote:
Delbin wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

I have a very bad feeling about this.

- Prequel
- Recasts two main characters
- Will probably show how Han got the scar, the vest, the cool blaster, the Wookie pal, the Millenium Falcon, the Kessel Run reputation, and probably the name.

We'll see how it goes.

I'd be okay with all of that just to hear their explanation of why they used parsec like a measure of time.

You mean aside from Lucas being a scientifically-illiterate hack?

Yar. I'd be amused at what leaps they'd go through to make it true.

Jonman wrote:
Delbin wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

I have a very bad feeling about this.

- Prequel
- Recasts two main characters
- Will probably show how Han got the scar, the vest, the cool blaster, the Wookie pal, the Millenium Falcon, the Kessel Run reputation, and probably the name.

We'll see how it goes.

I'd be okay with all of that just to hear their explanation of why they used parsec like a measure of time.

You mean aside from Lucas being a scientifically-illiterate hack?

Would you like to borrow some parsecs? I have some extra parsecs you can have.

I thought it was because, when you're traveling through hyperspace, going the shortest distance means you're taking less time but are exposing yourself to more risk. Like he's taking a known extremely risky route, but the ship was capable of plotting a really good course through it.

(It's not saying anything about him as a pilot. He's bragging on the ship itself and its AI.)

LouZiffer wrote:

I thought it was because, when you're traveling through hyperspace, going the shortest distance means you're taking less time but are exposing yourself to more risk. Like he's taking a known extremely risky route, but the ship was capable of plotting a really good course through it.

That was the painstaking journey of justification that the old Star Wars EU came up with to explain that line. Lucas meant it as a way of implying that Solo didn't really have any idea what he was doing. That particular storyline was abandoned in Empire because it was dumb and other people were at the helm.

Grenn wrote:
LouZiffer wrote:

I thought it was because, when you're traveling through hyperspace, going the shortest distance means you're taking less time but are exposing yourself to more risk. Like he's taking a known extremely risky route, but the ship was capable of plotting a really good course through it.

That was the painstaking journey of justification that the old Star Wars EU came up with to explain that line. Lucas meant it as a way of implying that Solo didn't really have any idea what he was doing. That particular storyline was abandoned in Empire because it was dumb and other people were at the helm.

But isn't hyperspace travel just hyperspace travel? I'm confused. Asking if someone has a fast ship should, in that instance, mean the ship is fast at calculating and executing the best possible route. I mean, he even yells at Luke about needing to let the ship calculate its course before jumping a bit later on.

EDIT: Note that I don't know anything about someone else's justification/explanation. This was what I always thought when watching the movies. The droids can talk to the ship, so it has an AI. Han and Chewie don't do anything unusual to plot a course, so it's the ship doing the work (though he says he's done some modifications, whatever that means). They spend so little time in real space that I don't know why Obiwan would be questioning how fast the ship travels in it.

LouZiffer wrote:
Grenn wrote:
LouZiffer wrote:

I thought it was because, when you're traveling through hyperspace, going the shortest distance means you're taking less time but are exposing yourself to more risk. Like he's taking a known extremely risky route, but the ship was capable of plotting a really good course through it.

That was the painstaking journey of justification that the old Star Wars EU came up with to explain that line. Lucas meant it as a way of implying that Solo didn't really have any idea what he was doing. That particular storyline was abandoned in Empire because it was dumb and other people were at the helm.

But isn't hyperspace travel just hyperspace travel? I'm confused. Asking if someone has a fast ship should, in that instance, mean the ship is fast at calculating and executing the best possible route. I mean, he even yells at Luke about needing to let the ship calculate its course before jumping a bit later on.

But he makes a point to tell Luke that the Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed, so speed is definitely a factor. When someone asks you how fast your car is, you don't tell them you made the trip from St. Louis to Chicago in under 250 miles. And if there are calculations to hyperspace travel, they must be based on interstellar maps which means there are probably specific routes from one place to another that must be fairly safe as opposed to more dangerous routes, but you'd still base your travel on time, not distance, right?

Grenn wrote:
LouZiffer wrote:
Grenn wrote:
LouZiffer wrote:

I thought it was because, when you're traveling through hyperspace, going the shortest distance means you're taking less time but are exposing yourself to more risk. Like he's taking a known extremely risky route, but the ship was capable of plotting a really good course through it.

That was the painstaking journey of justification that the old Star Wars EU came up with to explain that line. Lucas meant it as a way of implying that Solo didn't really have any idea what he was doing. That particular storyline was abandoned in Empire because it was dumb and other people were at the helm.

But isn't hyperspace travel just hyperspace travel? I'm confused. Asking if someone has a fast ship should, in that instance, mean the ship is fast at calculating and executing the best possible route. I mean, he even yells at Luke about needing to let the ship calculate its course before jumping a bit later on.

But he makes a point to tell Luke that the Falcon can make .5 past lightspeed, so speed is definitely a factor. When someone asks you how fast your car is, you don't tell them you made the trip from St. Louis to Chicago in under 250 miles. And if there are calculations to hyperspace travel, they must be based on interstellar maps which means there are probably specific routes from one place to another that must be fairly safe as opposed to more dangerous routes, but you'd still base your travel on time, not distance, right?

I would base my travel on time if it's a known distance. If the distance needs to be calculated, then the speed in combination with the ability to calculate the shortest distance are both needed, and he gives both of those things.

Let's put it this way: Space travel requires really complex math as it is. Everything is in motion relative to everything else. If he made changes to allow for illegal maneuvers like getting a little closer to known objects than is technically safe (also in motion... so hey... there's a lot to take into account!), then the general route might be known, but the ship still has a lot of work to do. He's not going between two cities that merely stay put (as cities tend to do).

I can't wait to find out Han's midichlorian count ...

HantaXP wrote:

I can't wait to find out Han's midichlorian count ...

Can't, they shot first.

Grenn wrote:
LouZiffer wrote:

I thought it was because, when you're traveling through hyperspace, going the shortest distance means you're taking less time but are exposing yourself to more risk. Like he's taking a known extremely risky route, but the ship was capable of plotting a really good course through it.

That was the painstaking journey of justification that the old Star Wars EU came up with to explain that line. Lucas meant it as a way of implying that Solo didn't really have any idea what he was doing. That particular storyline was abandoned in Empire because it was dumb and other people were at the helm.

I'm pretty sure that particular act of literary gymnastics was in the original Zahn books.

Dr.Ghastly wrote:
HantaXP wrote:

I can't wait to find out Han's midichlorian count ...

Can't, they shot first.

Clearly Greedo did ... for the money ... see, it's in his name ... GREEDo ... Genius!

Also maybe one of these extended movies will revisit Endor to retcon how little teddy bears could take out an army of armoured Stormtroopers... Poison something, something ...

HantaXP wrote:
Dr.Ghastly wrote:
HantaXP wrote:

I can't wait to find out Han's midichlorian count ...

Can't, they shot first.

Clearly Greedo did ... for the money ... see, it's in his name ... GREEDo ... Genius!

Also maybe one of these extended movies will revisit Endor to retcon how little teddy bears could take out an army of armoured Stormtroopers... Poison something, something ...

Dropbears. The razor teeth and dismemberment was off-screen.

Dr.Ghastly wrote:
HantaXP wrote:
Dr.Ghastly wrote:
HantaXP wrote:

I can't wait to find out Han's midichlorian count ...

Can't, they shot first.

Clearly Greedo did ... for the money ... see, it's in his name ... GREEDo ... Genius!

Also maybe one of these extended movies will revisit Endor to retcon how little teddy bears could take out an army of armoured Stormtroopers... Poison something, something ...

Dropbears. The razor teeth and dismemberment was off-screen.

I mean, based on the armor scattered around and the sudden huge meat filled feast... they definitely ate those stormtroopers right?

Pablo Hidalgo (via Twitter):

The clearest way I can think of to explain a Kessel Run.

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It's finally happened!

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garion333 wrote:

Personally, I've found Ron Howard directed movies to generally be blasé. It's usually not offensive or great, but smack dab in the middle of current directing. Like, of course he's directed the Dan Brown movies.

This. I was lot more interested when it was a Lord Miller movie—they've shown they can make a 90 minute commercial with charm and depth. With Howard it will just be a technically proficient commercial.

I was also very interested in how Lord Miller would have fit the dolphin noise in a Star Wars movie.

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thrawn82 wrote:

I mean, based on the armor scattered around and the sudden huge meat filled feast... they definitely ate those stormtroopers right?

Stormtroopers: Crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside?