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WizKid wrote:

They put the steering wheel on the wrong side.

The thing I noticed is they put the ignition on the wrong side.

Is Weathertech's website the only place you can get the liners? $18 shipping seems high.

Balthezor wrote:

Is Weathertech's website the only place you can get the liners? $18 shipping seems high.

Amazon has them. They also have another brand who's name escaped me that we got for our Pathfinder that seem just as good, for cheaper.

I will say $18 doesn't sound expensive for shipping. They come in pretty big boxes.

Yeah we got ours from Amazon. Just make sure you go to Weathertech's site and get the right model number that fits your car, don't count on the 'Amazon Garage' thing.

Thanks guys, will check it out.

Anybody have experience with waterless or no rinse wash? I keep reading about ONR or Optimum's No rinse wash, wondering if anybody here used it and liked the results.

detroit20 was asking me about my new Range Rover Sport.

I'm not sure if your in the US detroit20, but here I feel like not many people buy diesel cars. Land Rover definitely had more of an incentive to sell them for a cheaper price. I got a good deal on mine. It has 254hp but with 443 lb ft of torque. This thing growls at low RPMs. On their website, it looks like the diesel engine is .2 seconds slower than the gas. But the fuel economy is great for a big heavy SUV. It gets 22 city and 29 highway. It was really cool seeing 550 miles for the range for a full tank of gas.

I really like it so far. Only had it for a few days. It also has an air suspension, so its a smooth ride. You can increase/decrease its height on command. I've read that the older pre-2017 Range Rovers had an outdated info screen system. They revised that for 2017. I haven't had much of a problem with it. It's my first Land Rover, so I don't know how the reliability will be, but it sure does look pretty. Let me know if you have any other questions. Ill try and answer them.

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Balthezor wrote:

detroit20 was asking me about my new Range Rover Sport.

I'm not sure if your in the US detroit20, but here I feel like not many people buy diesel cars. Land Rover definitely had more of an incentive to sell them for a cheaper price. I got a good deal on mine. It has 254hp but with 443 lb ft of torque.

Is there a tow package hidden in there? How much is it rated to tow?

-BEP

bepnewt wrote:
Balthezor wrote:

detroit20 was asking me about my new Range Rover Sport.

I'm not sure if your in the US detroit20, but here I feel like not many people buy diesel cars. Land Rover definitely had more of an incentive to sell them for a cheaper price. I got a good deal on mine. It has 254hp but with 443 lb ft of torque.

Is there a tow package hidden in there? How much is it rated to tow?

-BEP

Looks like it's around 7700lbs which seems like a lot for an SUV.

Evo wrote:
bepnewt wrote:
Balthezor wrote:

detroit20 was asking me about my new Range Rover Sport.

I'm not sure if your in the US detroit20, but here I feel like not many people buy diesel cars. Land Rover definitely had more of an incentive to sell them for a cheaper price. I got a good deal on mine. It has 254hp but with 443 lb ft of torque.

Is there a tow package hidden in there? How much is it rated to tow?

-BEP

Looks like it's around 7700lbs which seems like a lot for an SUV.

The Diesel part is what made me ask. We have an Explorer Sport with the 365HP / 350 LbFtTq Twin Turbo and it is rated to tow 5,000lbs with the Class III tow package. I wondered what a Diesel Rover would be rated to pull with all that torque. Nice looking ride!

-BEP

I had a Range Rover Sport Supercharged for 11 years. Nice car. Loads of get-up-and-go. I added the tow harness myself and it integrates with a brake controller very nicely.

I had a small gremlin with the alarm and a patch of paint peeled off. Other than that, a very nice car indeed. I ended up selling it just before moving across country - a neighbor made me an offer I couldn't refuse - and buying an Audi Q7 in Florida.

I've always liked the Range Rovers but the reliability ratings and reputation have scared me off.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I've always liked the Range Rovers but the reliability ratings and reputation have scared me off.

Doug Demuro's ongoing saga of the used one he bought from CarMax is pretty incredible. He bought a bumper to bumper warranty for it for near $4000 and has kept a running tally of how much CarMax has paid to keep repairing it so far.

Last I saw he'd broken $15,000.

Thin_J wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

I've always liked the Range Rovers but the reliability ratings and reputation have scared me off.

Doug Demuro's ongoing saga of the used one he bought from CarMax is pretty incredible. He bought a bumper to bumper warranty for it for near $4000 and has kept a running tally of how much CarMax has paid to keep repairing it so far.

Last I saw he'd broken $15,000.

Sounds like a lemon.

That's a lot of torque, Balthezor. I'm guessing that makes for effortless motoring in pretty much any driving situation.

I assume you're in the US. I'm always surprised, given the popularity of large 4x4s, that more people don't choose diesel. Even factoring the comparatively cheap low price of petrol, diesels are much cheaper to run.

Whenever I've hired a car in Spain, I've always - bar one occasion - been allocated a diesel and always been grateful of its fuel-sipping characteristics. If I commuted by car and/or drove as part of my work, then there's no question what I'd have.

I'm loving the new Cayman, but I find it disconcerting to see gauge showing my estimated range changing almost gear change by gear change.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the RR.

I would have a tough time choosing a diesel because I absolutely hate the way they sound. Every time I drive by one all I can think of is the farmers my dad would curse for driving their tractor down the road.

@detroit20 I think it mainly comes down to two things, price and availability. Currently GM as an entire company offers really only 2 diesel options (as far as I know), Chevy Cruize and their heavy duty trucks. Not a whole lot of choices there. Second is the price, almost always diesel is the more expensive premium option. Want a diesel engine in your truck? Its a 17000 dollar option,for the Chevy Cruze its a 3 thousand dollar option.

Oh, I don't think there's ever been a diesel road car that makes an evocative noise. The best that one can hope to experience is something that's either inoffensive or largely silent from the inside. That said, some of the LMP1 endurance racing cars don't sound too bad. I saw some compete in a GT1 race at Silverstone a few years ago and it was a strange experience.

Depending on where you stand the make no noise at all.

When I think of diesel, I think of belching black smoke and noxious exhaust. I was driving behind an mid 2000s diesel truck the other day for about 5 minutes and ended up with a splitting headache from the fumes.

Maybe modern diesel engines don't have that issue (or more likely countries other than the US have more strict emissions requirements), but it's certainly tainted my opinion of diesel over the years.

When someone says diesel, this is what immediately comes to my mind:

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I think its the other way around, US has stricter diesel emissions on new diesels then the rest of the world, thats one of the reasons why almost all new diesels have to have piss put in them every 3k miles. I personally LOOOOVED my TDI when I had it, and if I couldn't I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again.

Hmm, could be that the nasty diesel vehicles stick out in my mind because the nice ones aren't noticeably different from gas vehicles on the road.

Fastmav347 wrote:

I think its the other way around, US has stricter diesel emissions on new diesels then the rest of the world, thats one of the reasons why almost all new diesels have to have piss put in them every 3k miles. I personally LOOOOVED my TDI when I had it, and if I couldn't I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again.

Of course, the TDI wasn't exactly playing by the rules...

Balthezor wrote:

Sounds like a lemon.

All grossly common failures for Rovers of the particular generation he bought. They were notoriously unreliable at the time.

I've not seen or heard any of the stories about new ones that I used to hear about those so I assume they've improved on that front in the years since.

Yep. The diesel in the Range Rover barely sounds any different than gas. I test drove both. And definitely no black smoke! My parents thought the same thing when I told them that I bought a diesel.

The diesel option was $1500 more MSRP but since I don't think they sell them as well, the dealerships usually discounts them fairly well. If you are really interested in diesel I would suggest getting some quotes and not relying on the MSRP prices.

Thin_J wrote:
Balthezor wrote:

Sounds like a lemon.

All grossly common failures for Rovers of the particular generation he bought. They were notoriously unreliable at the time.

I've not seen or heard any of the stories about new ones that I used to hear about those so I assume they've improved on that front in the years since.

I hope so!

I may be in the market for a new SUV thanks to Harvey. Any recommendations on something with a quiet interior and decent sound system? The sound in my old ride was my biggest complaint. I'd rather not pay a bunch for aftermarket solutions.

Also, has anyone tried Android Auto? I'm intrigued.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I may be in the market for a new SUV thanks to Harvey. Any recommendations on something with a quiet interior and decent sound system? The sound in my old ride was my biggest complaint. I'd rather not pay a bunch for aftermarket solutions.

Also, has anyone tried Android Auto? I'm intrigued.

You can try android auto without it being built into a car. It runs standalone now.

I use it all the time.

MannishBoy wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

I may be in the market for a new SUV thanks to Harvey. Any recommendations on something with a quiet interior and decent sound system? The sound in my old ride was my biggest complaint. I'd rather not pay a bunch for aftermarket solutions.

Also, has anyone tried Android Auto? I'm intrigued.

You can try android auto without it being built into a car. It runs standalone now.

I use it all the time.

That's a good point, and will inform whether it's worth favoring cars that have the built-in interface.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

I may be in the market for a new SUV thanks to Harvey. Any recommendations on something with a quiet interior and decent sound system? The sound in my old ride was my biggest complaint. I'd rather not pay a bunch for aftermarket solutions.

Also, has anyone tried Android Auto? I'm intrigued.

You can try android auto without it being built into a car. It runs standalone now.

I use it all the time.

That's a good point, and will inform whether it's worth favoring cars that have the built-in interface.

Yep, it's not the exact experience, because it's not sharing a screen with the car's interface, and there are some apps that work on a car screen but not on the phone (Waze...), but it will give you a good idea what you're going to get.

Also, anyone have any thoughts on minivans? We got a Toyota Sienna last year and have been happy with it; my wife is leaning towards replacing it with the same thing.