GWJFFL 2017: Fantasy Football Registration

As I mentioned in my post... if we're down in keeper and no one will take my spot, I'll redraft and participate for as long as necessary to keep the team/league alive. Probably with a lot less preparation and interest.

I'll let it go for as long as we can, hopefully some late interest shows up and my spot is taken. I'm a bit surprised to see how large a trend there is to ditch the leagues this year. It's wild to see it so starkly displayed.

karmajay wrote:

Even Pro is low on bodies? What happened this year?

Pro does cost money. I chose to stay in D1 when I could have promoted a while back.

Hi guys, I'd like in on one of the leagues. Stick me where I'm needed the most although would prefer non-keeper.

Have been playing FF for 30 years. And sucking the entire time.

Alright, let's discuss options moving forward.

What is obvious is that the interest level which led to the expansion and fragmentation of the fantasy leagues in the past is no longer sufficiently high to sustain the same structure.

It has become clear to me that what is needed is a dramatic simplification of the fantasy offerings.

As such, I am proposing (and, possibly, imposing) the following changes:

* Reverting Pro from paid to free league, basically re-unifying the player pools of all the redraft leagues. Pro would resume being the top-tier redraft league (without any additional buy-in requirement), with the other leagues beneath it, the number of leagues growing or contracting as needed to meet demand.

* Suspending Keeper and Dynasty leagues. Any viable year-to-year league not only needs to have a full complement of active owners, but should also ideally have a waiting list of people ready to jump on any spots that do open up. I don't consider dragging extra people kicking and screaming to get the numbers up to 12 to be a path to success.

Keeper I have long felt needs an overhaul in its rules system, and would be nice to bring back in the future if overall interest starts building back. Putting Dynasty down would absolutely kill me, as it's the league I personally would rather keep intact over all others, but it's not really a dynasty league if you've only got 7 invested owners and 5 other guys just filling spots.

Unless something dramatic happens in terms of interest, or if I hear ideas that I like better, then this is the course we will likely be heading.

Well that sucks. Suspending keeper/dynasty is in effect killing it. Football careers are too short to skip a year and assume your keepers will still be good for the next year. I'd rather take the people that actually want to commit and start a new dynasty league from scratch with a draft than suspend the current ones.

Also, moving pro back to a normal league kinda takes away a lot of the fun... I have other leagues I do with friends and such but still do Pro because of the $$$, not sure I'd want to do another normal league.

I am in keeper league, I would not be opposed to combining keeper/dynasty leagues and starting from scratch as either a dynasty or keeper league.

As much as I would like to keep the Pro league a pay league, if we can't get the bodies to fill it, I would not mind making it a normal league. I would suggest seeing how many people from D1 and D2 would like to bump up to Pro.

ukickmydog wrote:

Well that sucks. Suspending keeper/dynasty is in effect killing it. Football careers are too short to skip a year and assume your keepers will still be good for the next year. I'd rather take the people that actually want to commit and start a new dynasty league from scratch with a draft than suspend the current ones.

I say "suspend" simply to leave options open - at the time of resuming the leagues, we could have a discussion whether or not it makes sense to restore the leagues as-is or to wipe them and start them fresh. I prefer to delay that decision until the point in time where it matters, as we don't gain anything by making it ahead of time.

Also, moving pro back to a normal league kinda takes away a lot of the fun... I have other leagues I do with friends and such but still do Pro because of the $$$, not sure I'd want to do another normal league.

Pro is the closest to being a viable league, but it's still short of 12, and I am uncomfortable with the thought of trying to prod and drag people into a league that costs them money. But if some other people surface that do want to join us in a money league, I am listening.

Well, I am interested in and willing to pay for Pro. But like DocJoe, I'm willing to slide into wherever you have space and a need.

I am down for anything. Keep Pro $$$, fine. Make it free to play. Also fine. So long as Gumbie is in the league so I can trash-talk him.

I'm good with paying as well. I've been in the same Dynasty league with the same group of guys since 1987 so I really love that format but since I'm new thought it would make more sense to start in a non-Dynasty league. However, I'm happy to join there if it helps keep it alive.

I'm happy to slide into Pro from D2 if needed...

Love some way to keep Dynasty alive

Fwiw, I very much don't want to see Keeper and/or Dynasty go away since those are the only leagues I play in fantasy football anymore. I literally don't play in redrafts leagues here or elsewhere.

As such, I'm a bit unprepared to join redrafts leagues, but will do so if the others are shuttered. But I'd really like one of the long form divisions to exist, especially since I've spent so damn much time reading articles and researching related to them.

I will play wherever, whatever. I can only manage one team though.

I'll reassess where we are tonight as signups conclude.

If there's anyone else willing to throw their hat in an additional league's ring, please make yourself known.

While I'll be bummed if dynasty ends, I do kind of like the thought of being the reigning champion for all eternity.

I really enjoy playing in the keeper league and would hate to see it go. Really like my team options this year.

My general interest in football has been waning a bit. Fantasy is what keeps me involved.

I'd like to join a redraft league if there are any open spots

I am only good for 2 leagues. Pro and Keeper, but I could slide from Keeper to Dynasty if that makes things easier.

Double post. Kinda, lol

If there's a spot open in Pro I can do that instead of Div 1, doesn't matter to me.

If keeper/dynasty is rebuilt from scratch, I'd be interested. If someone can talk me into believing that my first year in keeper/dynasty won't be a lost year and we're not resetting it, I would consider it.

If it's like last year, there's usually a bunch of last minute interest, as well as some comments in other forums sections to generate interest. Maybe one more announcement in the steam group? That's what reminded me.

captainchaos wrote:

If there's a spot open in Pro I can do that instead of Div 1, doesn't matter to me.

If keeper/dynasty is rebuilt from scratch, I'd be interested. If someone can talk me into believing that my first year in keeper/dynasty won't be a lost year and we're not resetting it, I would consider it.

If it's like last year, there's usually a bunch of last minute interest, as well as some comments in other forums sections to generate interest. Maybe one more announcement in the steam group? That's what reminded me.

I won Keeper the first year I joined taking over a team, so I wouldn't consider it a lost year.

I really do like Keeper and hope that it may be able to stay around , but understand the need to put things on strategic pause if necessary.

Yeah, the Keeper/Dynasty format is more enticing to people when it starts fresh, but the inaugural draft also takes for f-ing ever.

That said, just because someone isn't coming back doesn't immediately mean their team stinks.

I don't see it posted. How much is Pro? I'm in another pay redraft league, and would consider Pro here if you need someone to fill a spot.

I suppose we need to get the leagues sorted before discussing draft schedule. Real football starts in 8 days.

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$25 bucks I believe

karmajay wrote:

$25 bucks I believe

Thanks. Happy to do Pro (instead of Div 1) if you need someone.

*Legion* wrote:

Here is where we are so far. Please let me know if I'm missing anyone.

Spots taken:
Pro: 9
D1: 7
D2: 4
Dynasty: 6
Keeper: 8

D1 and D2 look like they may need to consolidate, but the rest definitely need some increased signups if they are to remain viable. If you have friends looking for leagues, now might be a good time to point them this way.

If I make a suggestion, it seems that the thinking on the board is as follows:

Pro (10 teams)
Free (10 teams)
Keeper 2.0 (12-14 teams)

I don't know if this accounts for everyone, or if the overlaps don't make it work. But it seems like this could get us moving forward for this year.

Yay, I finally will be able to move up to D1!

Rat Boy wrote:

Yay, I finally will be able to move up to D1!

Nah, if you're promoted, I'll have to quit. Can't depend on you not vanishing for a year or two again.

I hate to say this but maybe we should skip a year. At this point with 7 days left, there may be an issue being able to do the live drafts without people being able to move their schedule. A league where the auto picker is picking for 3 - 5 teams is not going to work out great.

I'll be finalizing the leagues tonight and posting the whenisgood links for draft dates.

Here's what I have right now. It looks like we won't have any problem filling Pro and D1 (having pulled in all of the D2 people). People whose names are in italics are people who've said they are willing to fill the spot, outside of their original stated preferences.

We've gotten closer to saving Dynasty, but still need some takers.

Please let me know if I am missing you, or have you misallotted

Pro:
*Legion*
Kush15
tboon
karmajay
ukickmydog
Minase
Apollo0507
Bill Bonney
Jayhacker
garion333
Docjoe
oldmanscene24 (vacant)

D1:
Stele
JeffreyLSmith
Carlbear95
sr_malo
captainchaos
Rat Boy
iaintgotnopants
Torq
erichoya
sortimat
UpToIsomorphism (*Legion* or another taker if Iso moves to Dynasty)
Grumpicus

Dynasty:
*Legion*
iaintgotnopants
garion333
erichoya
Bill Bonney
Chabuda
Docjoe
Kush15
ukickmydog
UpToIsomorphism (tentative, pending filling rest of Dynasty slots)
oldmanscene24 captainchaos
(vacant)