Xbox One X, PS4 Pro or PC?

Is anyone else in the same dilemma on whether to wait for the new super-duper Xbone or go PC instead?

What are the pro's and con's for each?

Help us indecisive people, decide!... unless its just me so, in that case, help me decide!

When my graphics card died I was tempted to get a PS4 or X Box, then I looked at game prices and remembered why I sold off my 360.

No matter how good the system is, and the One X looks like a tasty bit of kit, or the economics of buying it, the actual costs of using a console are way higher than PC which makes it a no-brainer for me.

If you don't mind Physical disks Amazon Prime pre-orders make console games typically cheaper than their PC versions. As well it's not Steam sales level yet but both the PSN and Xbox store are getting better about having digital sales on a periodic basis.

There are many reasons to favor one over the other. Certainly economics is one of them as is ease of use and usage cases. The Xbox One X will make a superior media device being able to play just about every streaming media service as well as Blu-Ray and ultra Blu-ray. Not to mention a capable 4K gaming system. In 2018 you will be one of the first to enjoy variable refresh rates once HDTV's that support the new specifications are released.

I say PC. The Xbox exclusives will come to pc and their controllers work well so the experience can be similiar.

I'm planning to pick up an X1X but I fortunately don't have to choose since I also have a gaming PC. If you have to choose, no brainer, PC. With Microsofts plan to make all exclusives cross play on PC there's really no reason to buy an Xbox unless the simplicity and easy TV connection are important.

And if they are, again no brainer get a PS4 Pro. Sony has and will have far more console exclusives than Xbox so you will overall be getting the best experience there.

Last I checked it's going to cost almost double the price to get a comparable gaming experience that would match the Xbox One X on a PC. The GPU alone will match the price of the Xbox One X let alone the case, HD, CPU and memory.

The difference between $500 and $1000 isn't exactly a complete non-issue for many people. As for the knock against Microsoft for making all their exclusive available for both PC and Xbox that's fine as a negative IF you already have a well equipped gaming PC. But if you don't then see first paragraph.

That's why I went XBO. Economics of having a PC rig that cost's more, and constantly have to upgrade to play current games. Frankly, the cost's of games on XBX may be more, but they'll never be more then this constant PC upgrade one has to do.

I might be going with X1X this time around, but to be fair pc's don't need constant upgrading, for most folks. Unless somebody wants every new thing that comes down the pike, maybe spruce it up every few years.

Pro: PC is better in every single way
Con: It's quite a bit more expensive

That's pretty much all you need to know.

TheGameguru wrote:

Last I checked it's going to cost almost double the price to get a comparable gaming experience that would match the Xbox One X on a PC. The GPU alone will match the price of the Xbox One X let alone the case, HD, CPU and memory.

The difference between $500 and $1000 isn't exactly a complete non-issue for many people. As for the knock against Microsoft for making all their exclusive available for both PC and Xbox that's fine as a negative IF you already have a well equipped gaming PC. But if you don't then see first paragraph.

Guru, I just wanted to clarify that I don't view the cross buy that MS is rolling out as a negative. It is just the opposite, incredibly consumer friendly which is one of the reasons that I love the Xbox and it is my gaming system of choice.

But the reality is that this makes those games available for non-Xbox owners who have a PC which is not true for Sony's exclusives. So sadly, because Microsoft has chosen to be more open this gen than Sony, it in some sense makes a stronger case for going PC/PS4 if you want access to the most titles. On the other hand, going PC/Xbox gives you fantastic ability to pick up your game where you left off on the other platform and only requires you to purchase the game once which is fabulous for someone like me who travels with my gaming laptop.

Sorry for the derail since that is not the question being asked in this thread.

JeremyK wrote:

Pro: PC is better in every single way
Con: It's quite a bit more expensive

That's pretty much all you need to know.

Disagree. It's still complicated to connect a PC to a typical HDTV and get 4:4:4 Chroma with HDR 10 (not to mention Dolby Vision) compared to an Xbox One which auto detects most everything.

Add to that a functional media remote for controlling media and you have a far more family friendly setup.

Add 4K BluRay playback and it's even more complicated.

I have not maintained a gaming PC for a long time. I switched to Xbox because of the cost for me the way that I play games. I usually play a small number of games a whole lot. I have only had to upgrade my hardware once in 7 years (though I am planning to add an X.B.O.X. soon). I buy very few games (primarily the Forza series), and get most of my other games from games with gold. I currently have well over 100 titles I can play on XBO and I don't know how many more that are not currently backward compatible.

That said, others who hop from game to game, and might see my "over 100 titles" accumulated over 7 years as a small number of titles to purchase in a single year may find that lower game cost on PC more than makes up for the increased hardware cost.

I don't know exactly where the tipping point for cost is, but I am on the console-is-cheaper side while I am sure that many others on here are on the PC-is-cheaper side.

I just upgraded my gaming PC recently and it ran me about $1500 to get an upper mid tier unit. So price is definitely a factor. I guess a lot of it depends on what sort of games you want. If you like certain strategy and MMO games like me, then PC is the way to go. If you prefer sports or racing games than go Xbox. If you like shooters or mainstream action arcade games, then figure out how much the latest and greatest is worth to you.

Finally, VR may also play a role as I haven't heard if the new Xbox supports the Occulus.

The cost calculation is very complex and personal. I'd never call PC a no brainer for everyone.

For me. I never build an all new PC. It's always done in stages and I use mid range components, MB and CPU is usually about the same price as an XOXOXOX. GPU is usually in the $250 range, perfectly suitable for 1080 gaming. Warframe runs at 60fps and doesn't waver. Witcher 3 with a mix of High and Ultra settings goes between 35-60, so I lock it at 30.

My last CPU/MB combo lasted me 5 years and I only replaced it when I killed my MB with a poorly considered BIOS update. I get a new GPU every 3-4 years. If I had to build from scratch a console would be more compelling, but I'd need to build a whole new game library, and buy another TV so the calculus still leans towards PC.

If you're in the league where 4k media and gaming are a factor we're not even in the same sport. My current TV is still a 720p and I'm quite satisfied with it. I do want to upgrade to a 1080p TV this year, but more for other features than resolution. 4k is still stupid expensive.

Also bear in mind costs outside of the US can be very different to those in the US. Exchange rates, duties,shipping and good old gouging are factors.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

If you're in the league where 4k media and gaming are a factor we're not even in the same sport. My current TV is still a 720p and I'm quite satisfied with it. I do want to upgrade to a 1080p TV this year, but more for other features than resolution. 4k is still stupid expensive.

To quote myself. One thing MS and others need to push with systems like the Xboxox is to promote downsampling for people with 1080p TVs. Blizzard games downscale on my PC and it looks freaking incredible.

4k is a pipe dream, super clear anti-aliasing and smooth 60fps are a realistic benefit.

To throw another spanner in the works, Tech Radar posted an article about how the GPU performance could be increased in the PS4 Pro due it using AMD's Polaris architecture, which the new Xbox does not support.

http://www.techradar.com/news/why-am...

I wonder if the PS4 Pro will end up more powerful than the XboxOX if Sony can capitalise on the extra power?

Edit: Changed subject of thread to "Xbox One X, PS4 Pro or PC?"

g_Rm wrote:

To throw another spanner in the works, Tech Radar posted an article about how the GPU performance could be increased in the PS4 Pro due it using AMD's Polaris architecture, which the new Xbox does not support.

http://www.techradar.com/news/why-am...

I wonder if the PS4 Pro will end up more powerful than the XboxOX if Sony can capitalise on the extra power?

Edit: Changed subject of thread to "Xbox One X, PS4 Pro or PC?"

I would hold off in making any claims like that. Realistically using FP16 will only make sense on occasion in a game render cycle so at best we will see this technology add 10-15% improvements in frame rates rather than consistent double performance. In other works a trick to smooth out frame rate dips in challenging sections rather than an always on
Double performance boost.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

4k is still stupid expensive.

Also bear in mind costs outside of the US can be very different to those in the US. Exchange rates, duties,shipping and good old gouging are factors.

I find this surprising. Here in the U.S. 4k is approaching being standard on largish TVs and the price has been plummeting. Last summer I picked up a 55 inch 4k (though not HDR) TV for $500(U.S.). looks like they have a new version with HDR and a nifty remote with headphone jack now for $650.

Looks like I am going to day one the Xbonyx.

I dunno. I have a very expensive gaming rig I bought for VR, but 90% of my gaming is on my PS4 and Switch. I pretty much only use my PC for RTS games and VR.

jdzappa wrote:

(snip) I guess a lot of it depends on what sort of games you want. If you like certain strategy and MMO games like me, then PC is the way to go. If you prefer sports or racing games than go Xbox. If you like shooters or mainstream action arcade games, then figure out how much the latest and greatest is worth to you. (snip)

Type of game is the biggest factor for me as well. I like strategy games so PC would be my first choice if I couldn't have more than one option.

The other factor for me is location. I suppose this depends on your living set up, but XBox/PS are played from distance sitting in a sofa on a larger TV. There is an element of relaxation to them that I don't get from PC games. My PCs are set up at close range with an office chair. Sometimes I just want to kick back and relax, and a console experience is better for that.

I should add that what generally happens now when I want to kick back and relax is that I walk into our living room, notice that one of our kids is on the XBox, and then I go back to my office and do something on the PC.

Of those, I own a PS4 (non-pro), but I do it for two reasons.

1) Most of my friends are on PS4 and
2) I really don't want to deal with owning a PC (I am a mac person professionally)

Most games will come to everything, and everything will look good regardless of the system you own.

If it were me, I would ask where are your friends, and then are there any exclusives (first-party published games) that you want to play. Do you really want to play Spider-Man, then get the PS4. Do you really want to play Forza, then XBOX.

But that's me.