NFL 2017 Post-Draft Offseason

garion333 wrote:

The saddest of all headlines:

McCown looking better than Petty and Hackenberg at Jets’ OTAs

Oh, and speaking about stories about which QB has been the team's best at OTAs...

Are we sure he didn't mean "Out standing in the parking lot, because we don't want him anywhere near the field?"

Oz looked great during OTAs, practices, and even pre-season games last year as well. Once game-time came, though, he folded like something that folds really easy. I dunno, I'm at work, leave me alone.

It's also a great thing to say in order to get him traded.

garion333 wrote:

It's also a great thing to say in order to get him traded.

The quote about him being the best QB in OTAs "by a bunch" came from a Cleveland sportswriter's tweet. I don't care so much about the Hue Jackson bits as I do a 3rd party observer drawing that conclusion, same as the McCown story.

Not that it's late enough in the game to mean much at this point, but this is the scraps we feed on in May and June.

garion333 wrote:

Yeah, sounds like they all suck.

Well yeah, they're still Browns.

But the idea that salary dump Osweiler could win the starting job is just too delightful.

Like they bought a house to flip but nobody wanted it, so they ended up having to live in it themselves.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Yeah, sounds like they all suck.

Well yeah, they're still Browns.

But the idea that salary dump Osweiler could win the starting job is just too delightful.

Like they bought a house to flip but nobody wanted it, so they ended up having to live in it themselves.

Brilliant, Legion! Call in the Gaines to rehab Osweiler into something sellable!

FWIW, I am sure that is press to try to get an trade for Brock. There is no way the Browns want him to be the starting QB, especially if he is mediocre.

Gotta get those pics.

A PFT article about the Arena Football League got a coworker and I talking, and I was inspired to look up the helmet of an AFL team that tragically lasted only one year, but managed to have the best team name ever.

I give you the Minnesota Fighting Pike.

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MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I give you the Minnesota Fighting Pike.

How was I not aware of this?

Wikipedia wrote:

The team's lack of exposure or advertising was the key reason for the team's folding at the end of the 1996 season. The team did not have a regional television deal to promote their games or have the games advertised in newspapers and other media.

Oh.

The wikipedia article is hilarious:

During the team's first tryout, [Head Coach] Haege walked out, stating he was going "Back to Iowa." The next day, Haege faxed in his resignation to team owner Tom Scallen.
The Pike's final game of the season against the Memphis Pharaohs was played in Tupelo, Mississippi, because the Pharaohs had been evicted from their arena.

Ravens lose starting CB Tavon Young to ACL tear.

I think we're cursed.

The Chiefs just cut Jeremy Maclin.

Very unexpected, but the Chiefs are up against the cap, and cutting Maclin opens up $10 million.

The 49ers had better be blowing up Maclin's agent's phone. Last year was a disappointment, but the Niners need another viable receiver and have $71 million of cap space.

That's a bummer. I get it, in that he is massively injury prone, and his value to the team had dropped to being a slot receiver, not a #1. But I think, with Tyreek Hill, he was primed to really excel in that role.

This is also the second fan favorite the Chiefs cut out of nowhere, not even offering to renegotiate. That, too, I understand. But they are being viewed as particularly cutthroat by local fans. The Chiefs cut both Charles and Maclin with warning or attempts to renegotiate. I mean, with Charles, I guessed he was gone.

But I do think Maclin brought a level of professionalism to a very young receiver corps, that includes Hill, who I suspect still requires all the leadership he can get. Hill has been a model citizen, but the more action he sees, and the better he plays, the heavier the spotlight is going to get on his past.

I hope Chris Conley is ready to sep up. He's got the tools to be a #1, but he has yet to play like that guy. I do think with an entire offseason to consider how to exploit Hill's speed in the offense is going to pay dividends in the passing game. Hill is probably why they drafted Mahomes. Hill will be the first Chiefs WR to really stretch the field, opening up the middle for Kelce and other receivers.

On the plus side, getting rid of a Mizzou Tiger is never a bad thing.

ESPN bringing Hank Williams Jr. back for MNF. Because clearly the lack of a theme song was their biggest problem.

Niners sign Elvis Dumervil. Not sure how much he has left, but someone to compete at pass rusher with all the young guys.

The Panthers are having a little too much fun with video.

Also, starting CB James Bradberry (the guy wearing No. 24 not named Josh Norman) broke his wrist and will be out six weeks.

The Bucs are spending time and resources defending Aguayo.

“We evaluate the players every day. What the media sees is one thing, but the media doesn’t see the everyday battle,” Bucs general manager Jason Licht told me before the start of Thursday’s OTAs. “That day it was publicized that Roberto missed those field goals on the skinny post and Folk made them. Now over there [on another field in a different practice] is a different story that the media didn’t pick up on. We’re evaluating every kick.

“The media doesn’t see the other 10 or 20 kicks that they do per day on the other field. They’re being charted, too. I’m not going to tell you what they are. But if people actually knew how Roberto was doing over there, they wouldn’t have taken the Day One report from the skinny posts like they did and made such a big deal of it. But they can only report what they see and I understand that.”

“Roberto is actually getting better, and we’re excited that he actually has progressed from where he was from last year,” said Licht in his best politician imitation.

The MMQB article also throws a fat Jameis Winston dart too:

It’s an off-season cliché that each player is in the best shape of his life, but that definitely seems to be the case for Jameis Winston. He was pudgy in pre-draft workouts and slimmed down last off-season, and this spring he looks trimmer. He joked that he’s up to four abs now and is weighing in at 235 pounds, which is where he wants to be at the end of July. “I want to be heavy going into training camp because I’m going to lose that [by sweating],” Winston said.

Ah, the Bucs, the gift that keeps on giving.

Christian Hackenberg, "NFL" QB.

“He threw just two interceptions in team drills, but nearly tossed six others. And I’m not talking about a receiver falling down. I’m saying the defender just dropped the ball. Other times, the wideout/running back/tight end was wide open, and Hackenberg sailed it over his head or bounced it to him. That can’t happen. In the three media-open OTAs, Hackenberg hit reporters with passes twice.”

I mean, you should never root for injury to any player, but, if there's a scenario where enough QBs are hurt that Hackenberg has to play a game, I will watch that game.

Hackenberg is honestly the worst throwing QB I've seen drafted before Day 3 since bounce-pass Tebow. Like, it was so painfully apparent on his Penn State video (beyond Allen Robinson making plays and bailing him out of bad throws) that I still cannot fathom what any scout was looking at to justify spending a second round pick.

Besides Aguayo, that is the recent WTF draft pick that I simply can't get past.

garion333 wrote:

The MMQB article also throws a fat Jameis Winston dart too:

It’s an off-season cliché that each player is in the best shape of his life, but that definitely seems to be the case for Jameis Winston. He was pudgy in pre-draft workouts and slimmed down last off-season, and this spring he looks trimmer. He joked that he’s up to four abs now and is weighing in at 235 pounds, which is where he wants to be at the end of July. “I want to be heavy going into training camp because I’m going to lose that [by sweating],” Winston said.

Just a reminder, from last year's week 1 post:

#FatQuarterbacks is so last year. That is, until Jameis Winston balloons up over the course of the year, and then has his next "showed up slimmed down" training camp. We'll be riding that rollercoaster for a few years here.

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You're just jealous because I root for a more successful and better-run Florida franchise than you do.

That statement is a complement to neither the Buccaneers or Jaguars, incidentally.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Christian Hackenberg, "NFL" QB.

“He threw just two interceptions in team drills, but nearly tossed six others. And I’m not talking about a receiver falling down. I’m saying the defender just dropped the ball. Other times, the wideout/running back/tight end was wide open, and Hackenberg sailed it over his head or bounced it to him. That can’t happen. In the three media-open OTAs, Hackenberg hit reporters with passes twice.”

I mean, you should never root for injury to any player, but, if there's a scenario where enough QBs are hurt that Hackenberg has to play a game, I will watch that game.

The Jets posted this article yesterday about how his confidence is rising. Their evidence of this?

It was just one short pass during one red zone series during one OTA practice in early June.

It was pretty nonetheless.

What was "it"? Merely a 3-yard touchdown pass from Christian Hackenberg into the outstretched hands of one veteran wide receiver over the defense of a veteran corner on the right side of the end zone at Tuesday's practice.

The evidence was a 3 yd TD pass.

That's the best they got on the kid.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

You're just jealous because I root for a more successful and better-run Florida franchise than you do.

That statement is a complement to neither the Buccaneers or Jaguars, incidentally.

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garion333 wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Christian Hackenberg, "NFL" QB.

“He threw just two interceptions in team drills, but nearly tossed six others. And I’m not talking about a receiver falling down. I’m saying the defender just dropped the ball. Other times, the wideout/running back/tight end was wide open, and Hackenberg sailed it over his head or bounced it to him. That can’t happen. In the three media-open OTAs, Hackenberg hit reporters with passes twice.”

I mean, you should never root for injury to any player, but, if there's a scenario where enough QBs are hurt that Hackenberg has to play a game, I will watch that game.

The Jets posted this article yesterday about how his confidence is rising. Their evidence of this?

It was just one short pass during one red zone series during one OTA practice in early June.

It was pretty nonetheless.

What was "it"? Merely a 3-yard touchdown pass from Christian Hackenberg into the outstretched hands of one veteran wide receiver over the defense of a veteran corner on the right side of the end zone at Tuesday's practice.

The evidence was a 3 yd TD pass.

That's the best they got on the kid.

And Colin Kaepernick is sitting at home waiting for someone, anyone to call him up. He may not be the greatest ever, but he's certainly better than Hackenberg.

The only thing Hackenberg has working in his favor is a rookie contract.

What I find more egregious are guys who are on second or third contracts that have jobs ahead of Kaepernick. Geno Smith being a prime example. At no point in his career has Geno Smith looked like the caliber of quarterback that Kaepernick has been even post-Harbaugh.

The Patriots' rings have 283 diamonds.

"28" and "3" are currently my favorite numbers and I suspect will be for a long time.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

The Patriots' rings have 283 diamonds.

"28" and "3" are currently my favorite numbers and I suspect will be for a long time.

+1

In the absence of Saints trolling, which is truly the best thing ever, I'll take it.

Do not adjust your sets: Madden 18 has a story mode.