Star Trek: Discovery Catch-All [Spoilers]

Leaked photo purportedly of Klingons.

...wasn't I shooting a whole bunch of them in DOOM a while ago?

Rainn Wilson cast as HARCOURT! Harcourt Fenton Mudd! Please tell me Stella's going to make an appearance.

Can he grow such a magnificent stache though?

I grow less enthusiastic about this show with each update.

PaladinTom wrote:

I grow less enthusiastic about this show with each update.

Prequel was always a bad idea. Post-Voyager, with Romulus destroyed is where it's at.

Stele wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

I grow less enthusiastic about this show with each update.

Prequel was always a bad idea. Post-Voyager, with Romulus destroyed is where it's at.

I've wanted a far, far future Star Trek. Bump the timeline forward a couple of centuries, really embrace the post-scarcity society. Draw from stuff like the Culture, Glasshouse, The Quantum Thief, and other post-singularity, post-human sci-fi. There's a couple of decades of ideas that Star Trek hasn't embraced yet.

Hell even ST has future established stuff with temporal prime directive stories.

Anything but more Enterprise-ish nonsense.

Ah crap, I see from a linked story from December that Bryan Fuller isn't involved any more. That's even worse news than Rainn Wilson's casting.

No so coincidentally the day after The Walking Dead season finale Sonequa Martin-Green is announced by CBS as series lead First Officer Michael Burnham. Also, today I learned that a lot of people don't my first name and Burnham first name is actually gender neutral. I mean, I went to college with a couple female Michaels, which means ladies have been named Michael for at least around close to 40 years.

Hopefully the new show is good. I'll give it a chance and I really want it to be good.

Started watching Trek a couple years ago starting with TOS. Have now finished TNG, DS9, and am on season 4 of Voyager.

I want this to be good all the delays and the way they are handling it scares me. Of course I'm always for delaying things so they can be released in there best possible state but they seem to be very like "meh" about the show for some reason.

m booth wrote:

Hopefully the new show is good. I'll give it a chance and I really want it to be good.

Started watching Trek a couple years ago starting with TOS. Have now finished TNG, DS9, and am on season 4 of Voyager.

I want this to be good all the delays and the way they are handling it scares me. Of course I'm always for delaying things so they can be released in there best possible state but they seem to be very like "meh" about the show for some reason.

I am regoing through Voyager again right now. I'm pretty sure it's my favorite, although I have only seen part way through 2 seasons of Enterprise.

I really hope this new series does well, but it's like CBS doesn't want it to succeed.

Rat Boy wrote:

No so coincidentally the day after The Walking Dead season finale Sonequa Martin-Green is announced by CBS as series lead First Officer Michael Burnham. Also, today I learned that a lot of people don't my first name and Burnham first name is actually gender neutral. I mean, I went to college with a couple female Michaels, which means ladies have been named Michael for at least around close to 40 years.

I only discovered that with Michael Hyatt, who is now my reference standard lady named Michael.

For me I enjoyed DS9 the most when it was coming out. It's harder to re-watch on Netflix or wherever because it's heavily serialized, which means I feel the need to re-watch the middling to bad episodes as well as the good episodes. Voyager had more middling and bad episodes then DS9 did, I'd argue, but you can also completely ignore them because the episodes were self contained.

What hurts Voyager when I try to watch a season is that characters like Janeway will be all for Holographic rights one episode and dead-set against it five episodes later since the plot demands that. One episode at a time they're fine, but serially that's very confusing.

TNG is self-contained but I think the writers had a better handle on the character's personalities so they're more consistent.

I hope this new series is good but I still haven't managed to watch Enterprise.

I've never met a woman Michael so the name pick seems very strange to me.

I've met a few Michaelas...

Lost in the name discussion is that the two most prominent Michaels in Trek, Eddington and Jonas, respectively sold out DS9's crew to the Maquis and Voyager''s crew to the Kazon. Burnham's got nowhere to go but up.

Rat Boy's first name is Rat, right? That is a trick question...

I find the name to be a bit odd but I can warm up to anything. If the show is any good the Michael won't matter at all.

I found a lot of the names weird for some reason when I started Voyager, like Tom Paris and Harry Kim. But I'm three seasons in now and I don't care, its who they are to me now.

The first true trailer up, and IMO looks GREAT!

Yeah, that looks quite good.

Coming soon to a BitTorrent client near you*

*also CBS All Access

hbi2k wrote:

Coming soon to a BitTorrent client near you*

*also CBS All Access

Yeah, sad. Oh well, they've gotta try and make their service worth paying for, I guess.

I mean, it's either that or take a realistic look at their position in the marketplace and act accordingly, but who wants to do that?

garion333 wrote:
hbi2k wrote:

Coming soon to a BitTorrent client near you*

*also CBS All Access

Yeah, sad. Oh well, they've gotta try and make their service worth paying for, I guess.

I thought I read somewhere Netflix was footing the bill...and getting screwed over because they can't air it in the two nations that have the bulk of their subscribers.

Doesn't look to bad. I'll stay hopeful.

I wonder if they will try to explain why the Klingons look so different compared to TNG and especially TOS since Klingons where basically humans in TOS.

Booth wrote:

Doesn't look to bad. I'll stay hopeful.

I wonder if they will try to explain why the Klingons look so different compared to TNG and especially TOS since Klingons where basically humans in TOS.

And these cats are...even more alien looking than the ones in Into Darkness. I mean, they got bone armor now!

Edit: And apparently no earlobes based on the screencaps I'm looking at.

hbi2k wrote:

Coming soon to a BitTorrent client near you*

*also CBS All Access

If we want to see more of what we like, we have to pay for it somehow. They have a no commercial tier, now, iirc.

Booth wrote:

Doesn't look to bad. I'll stay hopeful.

I wonder if they will try to explain why the Klingons look so different compared to TNG and especially TOS since Klingons where basically humans in TOS.

They looked kind of like JJ Abrams Klingons.

I... wasn't really impressed.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Booth wrote:

Doesn't look to bad. I'll stay hopeful.

I wonder if they will try to explain why the Klingons look so different compared to TNG and especially TOS since Klingons where basically humans in TOS.

They looked kind of like JJ Abrams Klingons.

I... wasn't really impressed.

I always remember my reaction to seeing the Klingons in the first movie as a child, with the darkened sets and Jerry Goldsmith's slightly sinister creepy Klingon theme and Mark Lenard barking short commands in the guttural language he and James Doohan whipped up. These guys weren't just alien, but they were downright scary. Then of course over the next twenty years or so the Klingons were humanized and people the audience could relate to, like guys you'd meet at a biker bar or an Oakland Raiders game. Then Abrams nudged them back into the alien and scary realm and now Discovery's going all in on that.

I thought it looked pretty good, though I don't know yet if they're skewing towards nu-Trek action-instead-of-philosophy.

Did they update the ship design? It looked better in the glimpses we got.