A name it has - Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi (Er, no spoilers...)

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Fails Scooby-Doo Test:

Scooby-Doo and the Last Jedi.

:(

That doesn't sound like a fail, but I've never heard of that test before.

Stengah wrote:
UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Fails Scooby-Doo Test:

Scooby-Doo and the Last Jedi.

:(

That doesn't sound like a fail, but I've never heard of that test before.

Mentioned here: http://www.ign.com/articles/2004/08/...

Stengah wrote:
UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Fails Scooby-Doo Test:

Scooby-Doo and the Last Jedi.

:(

That doesn't sound like a fail, but I've never heard of that test before.

Essentially, if the subtitle can make sense as a Scooby-Doo subtitle, the movie isn't good.

Scooby-Doo and the Phantom Menace (check)
Scooby-Doo and the Attack of the Clones (check)
Scooby-Doo and the Rise of the Sith (sorta)
Scooby-Doo and a New Hope (nope)
Scooby-Doo and The Empire Strikes Back (nope)
Scooby-Doo and the Return of the (sorta)
Scooby-Doo and The Force Awakens (nope)

Scooby-Doo and The Last Jedi (?)

Star Wars: The Last Jedi Is Totally Plural (If You're Bilingual)

Following on the heels of revealing Rey’s new hair on an empty box, another Star Wars: Episode VIII mystery has been answered—namely, whether The Last Jedi refers to a single Jedi or a group of Jedi, since both the singular and the plural form are “Jedi.” The solution comes to us via the release of several foreign-language titles for the film.

The French title for the movie has been revealed as “Les Derniers Jedi,” which is, in case you don’t speak French, absolutely means “The Last Jedi (plural).”

The same is true for the title in Spanish:
And German:
Thank you, other languages who modify their adjectives to distinguish the quantity (and gender) of the nouns they’re modifying!

Someone start a gofundme to get it re-titled to "The Last Few Jedis"

Sweden in a characteristically obstinate display have decided to use the English title for once.

I just saw something on facebook that I believe is a picture of Snoke. I have to wonder:

Spoiler:

It looks an awful lot like two possibilities, either Qui Gong Jin or the actor that played unmasked Vader at the end of the unedited "Return of the Jedi".
http://movieweb.com/star-wars-last-j...

And looking at google images, it looks like I'm not the only one who thinks so...

Is it better translated as "The Last Jedis" or "The Last of the Jedi"? I'm assuming the former based on my sketchy memory of French, but the latter would make more sense.

It would be better translated as "The Last Jedis". Of course, that is a direct word for word translation, which is always tricky, especially given the fondness of the english language to drop grammar rules whenever it feels like it.

Gremlin wrote:

Is it better translated as "The Last Jedis" or "The Last of the Jedi"? I'm assuming the former based on my sketchy memory of French, but the latter would make more sense.

The direct translation is The (plural form) Last (plural form) Jedi. Translating as "The Last Jedi" would inadvertently suppress information, since Jedi, in English, is its own plural. "The Last Jedis" would be more accurate, but grammatically incorrect. "The Last Few Jedi" would be adding content that isn't in the original, because it could be a whole lot of last Jedi. And even if that context turns out to be correct, it's clunky.

Translation, from what I can see, doesn't get the status it probably deserves. Carrying full context and sounding natural requires extraordinary skill.

Scooby Doo and The Last Ones That Are Jedi

If anyone's interested in filling in some of the questions posed by TFA check out the Aftermath trilogy of books. I found the first book to be sub par but the series improved greatly as it went on it. It's worth reading simply because it explains a lot of questions TFA blindly opens with - the significance of Jakku, the details of the great battle there, the beginning of the First Order and how it was developed to contrast the empire and why the Resistence exists along side the new republic. They really have added some crucial background info here that puts some of the oddities and coincidences (why was the falcon near Jakku?) into place. It also goes back to some of the areas last seen in past movies, like Tatooine and Naboo for an update on those situations and left behind characters. You just know you're interested in what Jar Jar's been up to all this time. =)

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Nice Markamel you got there!

I thought Empire's End was hot garbage and that each book in the series was worse than the one before it and that the Jar Jar interlude was on the cusp of embarrassing...

but glad people like it, Wendig seems like a good dude

farley3k wrote:

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That's just awesome, he's so awesome, I love him.

Rumor so I will put in spoilers tag

From io9's morning spoilers on 4/10

Spoiler:
According to Making Star Wars, Supreme Leader Snoke has a new costume in The Last Jedi— a gold, silky robe and slippers, lined in red. A similar look was hinted at in the book, The Art of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, back when the character was more serpentine. The site also reports Snoke has a ring housing a Kyber crystal, which is allegedly the size of a Ring Pop. Fancy.

Reportedly, Snoke will spend the majority of the film inside his palace aboard a “Mega Destroyer” starship—which will be one of the largest ships ever depicted in the Star Wars franchise. Essentially a “mobile command unit,” Snoke’s Mega Destroyer is powered by 10 double-stacked engines, and features six-to-eight “Praetorian Guards”—the name for Snoke’s personal bodyguards, who wear “glossy red armor, shell plating, and matte red cloth elements for the capes” while each guard carries their own unique weapon, including a double-bladed staff, a sword, and even nunchucks. There’s a bit more at the link.

I posted not because it was terribly interesting but to complain - why do they think bigger is always better? It was a joke in Spinal Tap when he says his amp is better because it goes to 11 - not a rule of how do things!

I am sure the movie will be good but I just thought the stuff above was silly.

farley3k wrote:

I posted not because it was terribly interesting but to complain - why do they think bigger is always better? It was a joke in Spinal Tap when he says his amp is better because it goes to 11 - not a rule of how do things!

I am sure the movie will be good but I just thought the stuff above was silly.

It absolutely is. It was a huge problem in the first two (new) Star Trek movies too. "How do we make sure this is menacing? I know, let's make it like this other thing, but bigger!" It's lazy storytelling for the unimaginative. I agree, though, it doesn't mean the movie won't be great. I still love Force Awakens despite Starkiller Base being a ridiculously dumb concept.

Part of me would love to know how the First Order funds their massive engines of destruction while the (formerly) Alliance-backed Resistance struggles with to mount a couple of fighters.

Another part of me tells the aforementioned part to STFU.

I wish the movies would explore the idea of the rebels/resistance capturing one of these mega weapons and what they would then do with it, besides blowing it up.

Nevin73 wrote:

Part of me would love to know how the First Order funds their massive engines of destruction while the (formerly) Alliance-backed Resistance struggles with to mount a couple of fighters.

Another part of me tells the aforementioned part to STFU.

The former EU made it plain that slave labor was the order of the day. Kashyyyk was conquered for just that purpose. Incredibly strong, technically savvy behemoths to build your super weapon. Things like that are easy when your singular, amoral leader who wields complete control over his forces gives that order as opposed to a Republic where each world is jockeying for position and probably funds.

breander wrote:

I wish the movies would explore the idea of the rebels/resistance capturing one of these mega weapons and what they would then do with it, besides blowing it up.

The Boromir plotline.

Grenn wrote:

The former EU made it plain that slave labor was the order of the day. Kashyyyk was conquered for just that purpose. Incredibly strong, technically savvy behemoths to build your super weapon.

Still canon, because the first couple of episodes of Rebels is literally about that, and many of the later episodes explore similar themes.

Grenn wrote:

Things like that are easy when your singular, amoral leader who wields complete control over his forces gives that order as opposed to a Republic where each world is jockeying for position and probably funds.

The First Order seems to continue the Empire's human-first racism. Though there hasn't been much on-screen justification for how their economy works that seems like a reasonable assumption.

The superweapon was still dumb, plotwise, mind you. And I'm going to hold the way the firing VFX shots were composed to make space feel tiny against JJ Abrams for the rest of his life. If you're going to have a cool concept like a weapon that shoots through hyperspace, why would you blow it all on the big shot that doesn't sell the scale? At all?

Ranting:

Spoiler:

Ray looking up at the beam? Cool concept. Final shot of the beam splitting to hit planets that were next door to each other, with nothing establishing it beforehand? Makes it feel smaller than Firefly's 'verse. Rogue One manages to make the Death Star's test firing look more impressive. Heck, The Expanse manages to make an asteroid feel bigger.

I could come up with ways to make the concept work (take advantage of the 'hyperspace' part of the concept, come up with some cool extra-dimensional implosion thing that rips planets and stars apart from the inside.) But the basic concept is flawed.

JJ's always had a problem with transition. A New Hope had that scene with everyone just sitting there in hyperspace waiting to get to their destination. It gave a concept of real distance even when you can go faster than light. My biggest pet peeve with Abrams' stuff is that he'd rather be there than go there. The last shot of Force Awakens where they spend two seconds in hyperspace to get to Luke (and about that time getting the Enterprise to the Klingon homeworld now that I think about it) is the type of style change I look forward to with different directors helming the other movies.

Yeah JJ is definitely more destination than journey guy.

Odd since LOST never f*cking got anywhere.

Stele wrote:

Yeah JJ is definitely more destination than journey guy.

Odd since LOST never f*cking got anywhere. ;)

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Stele wrote:

Yeah JJ is definitely more destination than journey guy.

Odd since LOST never f*cking got anywhere. ;)

Wrong guy(s), though.