[Discussion] The Donald Trump Administration

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Let's follow and discuss what our newest presidential administration gets up to, the good, the bad, the lawsuits.

January 20th, 2017 marks the day we put President Donald J. Trump in charge of our nation. I think perhaps we might want to keep a close eye on this administration.

Trump Tracker. What he's promised during the campaign vs. reality.

In all fairness, I believe it's impossible for ANY president to live up to their campaign promises but how DJT fails may very well be special.

Secretary of Education Dr. Ben Carson scares the hell out of me.

This seems to fit here.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders

Lobbyists Stand Ready To Help Donald Trump Drain The Swamp

So three days before his administration is basically Washington-ized.

farley3k wrote:

This seems to fit here.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders

Lobbyists Stand Ready To Help Donald Trump Drain The Swamp

So three days before his administration is basically Washington-ized.

#ReplaceTheSwampWithPREMIUMSwampWater

Will the Republicans dare to threaten Medicare, putting at risk the seniors that form a cornerstone of their voting bloc?

The answer looks like yes.

farley3k wrote:

This seems to fit here.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders

Lobbyists Stand Ready To Help Donald Trump Drain The Swamp

So three days before his administration is basically Washington-ized.

I've said elsewhere that I think Trump is likely to be taken out behind the woodshed by those who actually hold political power and know how to use it. Whether the Presidency has become a sham where the office is led by the nose, or it's still a position of real power makes little difference. IMO he's a little fish in a big pond right now.

While there are countless think pieces about understanding the pain of the blue collar rural class that put Trump into power, the frustration is that it is akin to watching our parents fall for telemarketing scams. They put a con man into office, and I'm wondering how long it will be until they admit they just gave away the country's life savings to a New York mogul that has made his living bilking contractors and students, playing fast and loose with tax laws, and whose real skill is marketing perception over reality.

Thank God they were too smart to pick the lady with real plans to lift the middle class with a minimum wage increase, investment in education, including trade schools, and tax hikes on the wealthy.

Are we going to get rage and protests from Trump supporters as he begins to add people like the Goldman Sachs executive to treasury. I mean, Hillary did give a speech to them, and was paid well for it. Good thing they picked the guy already in bed with them.

Still waiting for a sign that the blue collar class didn't just commit a murder suicide because of their pain instead of actually paying attention to the issues.

A member of the wealthy elite won't stand opposed to the wealthy elite? Shocked! I am shocked, I tell you.

Jayhawker wrote:

While there are countless think pieces about understanding the pain of the blue collar rural class that put Trump into power, the frustration is that it is akin to watching our parents fall for telemarketing scams. They put a con man into office, and I'm wondering how long it will be until they admit they just gave away the country's life savings to New York mogul that has made his living billing contractors and students, playing fast and loose with tax laws, and whose real skill is marketing reception over reality.

This morning I posted to Facebook that it's like America fell for a Nigerian Prince email scam.

Jayhawker wrote:

Are we going to get rage and protests from Trimp supporters as he begins to add people like the Goldman Sachs executivecto treasury. I mean, Hillary did give a speech to them, and was paid well for it. Good thing they picked the guy already in bed with them.

Haha, no. They're well practiced at jumping through mental hoops to justify or rationalize everything he does. Because they've internalized "Hillary=corrupt", in their minds it then follows that Trump can do no wrong. It's been that way his whole campaign.

oilypenguin wrote:

Secretary of Education Dr. Ben Carson scares the hell out of me.

f*ck why!!!??!
I guess I could see Surgeon General, but DoE?
Why not just sh*t can the whole thing and save time?

Quintin_Stone wrote:

A member of the wealthy elite won't stand opposed to the wealthy elite? Shocked! I am shocked, I tell you.

You might not have been (I sense you are being sarcastic) but I think many people will be shocked.

I know the temptation is there to make this a downward spiral of sarcasm and hopelessness but... wait. What was I talking about?

Eh. Carry on.

Also SERIOUSLY Ben Carson for Education? PYRAMIDS ARE SILOS THE f*ckING HELL?

Because. You don't need any experience in any of these areas. It's fine.

LouZiffer wrote:
farley3k wrote:

This seems to fit here.

Team Trump is already filled with Washington insiders

Lobbyists Stand Ready To Help Donald Trump Drain The Swamp

So three days before his administration is basically Washington-ized.

I've said elsewhere that I think Trump is likely to be taken out behind the woodshed by those who actually hold political power and know how to use it. Whether the Presidency has become a sham where the office is led by the nose, or it's still a position of real power makes little difference. IMO he's a little fish in a big pond right now.

Trump is third sham president in my lifetime. Neither Reagan nor Bush II were actually the the men running the country. Trump is the first sham president that didn't realize he wasn't the boss, though.

The real power in Washington will use the threat of impeachment, behind closed doors, of course, to keep him on task. They would prefer a President Pence, anyway.

Jayhawker wrote:

The real power in Washington will use the threat of impeachment, behind closed doors, of course, to keep him on task. They would prefer a President Pence, anyway.

As hilarious as that would be, Trump wields a lot of populist influence and he's not afraid to recklessly use it. Example: Ted Cruz's humiliation.

Jayhawker wrote:

Trump is third sham president in my lifetime. Neither Reagan nor Bush II were actually the the men running the country. Trump is the first sham president that didn't realize he wasn't the boss, though.

The real power in Washington will use the threat of impeachment, behind closed doors, of course, to keep him on task. They would prefer a President Pence, anyway.

Why would Trump take that threat of impeachment seriously?

Will be interesting to see if Trump tries to reconcile with the republican politicians who attacked him, or if he will do everything he can to ham their political influence. Both of those ways could encourage some to fight back, whether for their own survival or because they see "weakness".

Well he already has an enemies list. I imagine that his first inclination will be to follow it unless he's unable to fill posts ups with people who tolerate him.

Demyx wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Trump is third sham president in my lifetime. Neither Reagan nor Bush II were actually the the men running the country. Trump is the first sham president that didn't realize he wasn't the boss, though.

The real power in Washington will use the threat of impeachment, behind closed doors, of course, to keep him on task. They would prefer a President Pence, anyway.

Why would Trump take that threat of impeachment seriously?

For one, his fraud trial makes it easy peazy. Second, Trump is all about pride, and he will avoid looking like a con man as much as possible. It's not like the Republicans won't let him line his family's pockets as he does their bidding.

I'm not so convinced. He's had the GOP pretty much coming after him this whole time. He's had credible threats against his campaign time and again, and he just walked right through them - through luck or design, it's hard to say. Trump probably feels invincible and he may not be wrong. Trump was elected by a very angry, upset portion of the GOP and I find it extremely likely that they are more willing to turn on the "Establishment" GOP than they are to agree with them.

Trump has shown his political career thrives off of conflict like this. How well do you think establishment GOP kicking the "swamp drainer" out of office will go over with the electorate? The GOP has to understand this as well.

lunchbox12682 wrote:
oilypenguin wrote:

Secretary of Education Dr. Ben Carson scares the hell out of me.

f*ck why!!!??!
I guess I could see Surgeon General, but DoE?
Why not just sh*t can the whole thing and save time?

Trump expressed the desire to eliminate the DoE on the campaign trail.

And doing so has become a pet cause for a lot of Republicans who cloak it in terms of "local control," which really means "I want my kids to only be taught Creationism" followed closely by chartered schools businesses who want the government out of the way so they can get their hands on all those juicy federal and state education tax dollars.

Jayhawker wrote:
Demyx wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Trump is third sham president in my lifetime. Neither Reagan nor Bush II were actually the the men running the country. Trump is the first sham president that didn't realize he wasn't the boss, though.

The real power in Washington will use the threat of impeachment, behind closed doors, of course, to keep him on task. They would prefer a President Pence, anyway.

Why would Trump take that threat of impeachment seriously?

For one, his fraud trial makes it easy peazy. Second, Trump is all about pride, and he will avoid looking like a con man as much as possible. It's not like the Republicans won't let him line his family's pockets as he does their bidding.

Yeah, I kind of agree with Bloo. Impeaching Trump for the fraud trial or the other things he's done is going to go over like a lead balloon with the Republican base. He hasn't demonstrated he cares about looking like a con man at any point during the campaign.

I love the thread banner.

It was discussed a bit in the election thread, but just as disturbing as Ben Carson's potential role are the people he's considering to run the EPA and Department of Interior.

Get out and enjoy the clean air at your nearest National Park as soon as you can, I suppose?

I'm done underestimating Trump. The Republicans have never even slowed him down before, and nothing indicates that they'll be able to do anything to affect him.

I also freely admit that I don't know which of his proposed actions he's going to be able to implement. I have some speculation as to doomsday scenarios as consequences of his decisions. (For a mundane one: losing de facto reserve currency status, sparking Great Depression 2.0.) I have no idea how plausible they are yet. I probably won't know until January at the earliest.

NormanTheIntern wrote:

I love the thread banner.

If we learn anything from history, let it be don't mess with Canada.

OK WE NEED TO STOP THIS RIGHT NOW.

That's from June. We need to stay vigilant though. This is the kind of sh*t they're thinking about doing.

"We passed several laws in 1938 and 1939 to go after Nazis and we made it illegal to help the Nazis. We're going to presently have to go take the similar steps here."

Yeah, we all hate the Nazis for persecuting an innocent minority --

"They know what is going on," Trump said during a speech Monday in New Hampshire. "They know that (the Orlando killer) was bad. They knew the people in San Bernardino were bad. But you know what, they didn't turn them in, and we had death and destruction."

The lack of self-awareness burns.

It's already illegal to provide support to terrorists, and not just ISIS. Gingrich is just keeping his name in the papers, before he finds out which cabinet position he's up for.

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Trump just completely reversed his policy on South Korea — only 2 days after being elected

Now, just one day later, Trump has tried to put those concerns to rest by speaking directly with Park over the phone and promising to maintain the existing security alliance. "We will be steadfast and strong with respect to working with you to protect against the instability in North Korea,” Trump told the South Korean president, according to a statement from her office.

During the 10-minute phone call, Park reportedly told Trump, "I expect that [we] can strengthen and develop the alliance down the road for the shared interests in various areas," to which Trump responded by saying that he completely agreed with her.

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