NFL 2016: Week 4

This sucks a whole lot.

*Legion* wrote:

We've seen bad officiating cost teams in close games a few times already this year, but this takes the cake.

He's standing up with the ball and they signal for the other team. Wow. That might be the most bone headed call of all time.

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

We've seen bad officiating cost teams in close games a few times already this year, but this takes the cake.

He's standing up with the ball and they signal for the other team. Wow. That might be the most bone headed call of all time.

I might understand it if there were a long scrum and then Duke Johnson emerges with the ball - even then, it usually gets called by whomever comes up with it, but if an official clearly saw a Washington player down with the ball before it was taken from him, then they'd be right in calling it that way.

But Duke is starting to stand up with the ball while the official is still running to the pile, and while he's looking down into a pile where the ball no longer even is. And from the sideline angle (the side that the ruling official is coming from), we see that #51 really only bats the ball back at Duke, and #24 sits down, his arms in no position to grab anything but #51's right arm.

There is no way the official ever saw the ball clearly in the possession of a Washington player (because it never was), and for the official to override the "guy who comes up with the ball" factor was asinine.

I understand not being able to reverse the call on review, because the visual evidence is not indisputable, but that's why you make the conservative call (eg. the guy who is standing and holding the ball over his head) and allow replay to correct it if there's a visual of a defender possessing it.

Enix wrote:

I'm most disappointed that Carolina didn't find a couple of spare (and decent) O-linemen like it has in the past. Mike Remmers at LT is pretty ugly. Darryl Williams (Remmers' sub on the right side) is way beyond ugly.

There were a few quality starters for the taking (Mitchell Schwartz, Russell Okung, Kelvin Beachum) but not super cheap (Beachum was the cheapest, but that's because he was coming off a knee injury that still kept him sidelined through most of preseason).

The bargain basement guys this time around are all grading out even worse than Carolina's rotation. Bobbie Massie, Andre Smith, Bradley Sowell, all scrubs playing worse than Carolina's. Of course, anyone should have seen that coming with at least the first two.

Eli must be distracted thinking about all the fun he's going to have with Peyton on Tuesday.

Running Man wrote:

Eli must be distracted thinking about all the fun he's going to have with Peyton on Tuesday.

Cupcakes!!!

Is Eli going to ask why Lionel Richie's constantly following Peyton around?

Rat Boy wrote:

Is Eli going to ask why Lionel Richie's constantly following Peyton around?

Nah, Lionel is only there on Sunday mornings. Although I do wonder if Peyton and the E-Man got to watch some football and each nachos yesterday.

Ravens release Justin Forsett for realz this time.

Turns out he's a diva. I'm so glad cause I've missed the diva WRs of yesteryear.

For Milkman, from FO's Week 4 Quick Reads:

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On the QB list, Gabbert and Bortles 13 and 14. Flacco 25th, and a full 3 QBs ranked below FitzTragic.

I don't want to defend Flacco cause I've never been much of a fan but the left side of the OL did give up perpetual pressure. It was tough to watch him throw all sorts of weird passes while trying to avoid the immediate pressure. That's how you end up with:

Throwing to his left, Flacco went 4-of-14 for 16 yards and no first downs. Seriously.

Gabbert has "one of the top OL" and all he's managing to do is not be Hoyer.

Bortles? Simple, a broken clock...

garion333 wrote:

Gabbert has "one of the top OL" and all he's managing to do is not be Hoyer.

First of all, the quote was "potentially one of the league's better units", which you should know, since you said you were saving it.

Secondly, I notice you haven't been able to tee off on me on that quote yet, seeing as that line has allowed only its second sack of the season this past week, and only the first one attributed to one of the starting 5. FO's new premium stat database ranks them 6th in "pressure rate". I'd say my characterization that this unit's potential has been accurate so far.

Here's a fun one though: the team with the lowest "pressure rate"? NY Jets, and it's by a sizable margin. Fitzpatrick is throwing all of those INTs with hardly any pressure.

*Legion* wrote:

For Milkman, from FO's Week 4 Quick Reads:

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On the QB list, Gabbert and Bortles 13 and 14. Flacco 25th, and a full 3 QBs ranked below FitzTragic.

Oh, Sims was terrible, and was used terribly. Good in space, one of those guys with great vision who's really fluid, and great once he gets out there. Has zero patience and can't break tackles, so, what did the Bucs do on Sunday repeatedly? Run him into the middle of the line. He doesn't wait for blocks, he just charges forward. He's a really good third-down back.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Gabbert has "one of the top OL" and all he's managing to do is not be Hoyer.

First of all, the quote was "potentially one of the league's better units", which you should know, since you said you were saving it.

Secondly, I notice you haven't been able to tee off on me on that quote yet, seeing as that line has allowed only its second sack of the season this past week, and only the first one attributed to one of the starting 5. FO's new premium stat database ranks them 6th in "pressure rate". I'd say my characterization that this unit's potential has been accurate so far. :)

Nope, I haven't, and I've been reading no about what a good unit they are and not posting it for all to see. I'll take my small pyrrhic victories even if only I know about them.

Rat Boy wrote:

OBJ appears to be broken.

Beckham's fall has been nothing short of spectacular. He still flashes greatness on a play here or there. But sheesh it's nothing short of bizarre how fast he has fallen.

TheGameguru wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

OBJ appears to be broken.

Beckham's fall has been nothing short of spectacular. He still flashes greatness on a play here or there. But sheesh it's nothing short of bizarre how fast he has fallen.

And he ain't talkin' to no shrink.

Look, sports psychologists and mental coaches can be great assets. Roberto Aguayo had one in the preseason and nevermind.

TheGameguru wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

OBJ appears to be broken.

Beckham's fall has been nothing short of spectacular. He still flashes greatness on a play here or there. But sheesh it's nothing short of bizarre how fast he has fallen.

I'm honestly not disappointed after his antics in last year's Panthers-Giants game. I don't really wish another player ill, but I'll make an exception in Beckham's case.

Oh, and Drew Brees. I hope his little shrimpy arm falls off and he gets too fat to fit in those damn jeans he's always trying to sell.

Enix wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

OBJ appears to be broken.

Beckham's fall has been nothing short of spectacular. He still flashes greatness on a play here or there. But sheesh it's nothing short of bizarre how fast he has fallen.

I'm honestly not disappointed after his antics in last year's Panthers-Giants game. I don't really wish another player ill, but I'll make an exception in Beckham's case.

Oh, and Drew Brees. I hope his little shrimpy arm falls off and he gets too fat to fit in those damn jeans he's always trying to sell.

That's HOF Drew Brees to you, sir!

Between Sammy Watkins being made of distressed tinfoil and OBJ being potentially insane, it's looking like Mike Evans and Allen Robinson are so far the winners of the great 2014 WR class. KB13, Jordan Matthews, and Brandin Cooks have had some success, but Evans and Robinson have hit it pretty consistently.

Every team is going to just bait OBJ constantly at this point. He's going to get ejected what, half the games he plays?

Continuing Chicago's ongoing factory of sadness performance, Kevin White is out:
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/...

karmajay wrote:
Enix wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

OBJ appears to be broken.

Beckham's fall has been nothing short of spectacular. He still flashes greatness on a play here or there. But sheesh it's nothing short of bizarre how fast he has fallen.

I'm honestly not disappointed after his antics in last year's Panthers-Giants game. I don't really wish another player ill, but I'll make an exception in Beckham's case.

Oh, and Drew Brees. I hope his little shrimpy arm falls off and he gets too fat to fit in those damn jeans he's always trying to sell.

That's HOF Drew Brees to you, sir!

HOF = I Hate that Old F--ker? ... Then yes indeed!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Between Sammy Watkins being made of distressed tinfoil and OBJ being potentially insane, it's looking like Mike Evans and Allen Robinson are so far the winners of the great 2014 WR class. KB13, Jordan Matthews, and Brandin Cooks have had some success, but Evans and Robinson have hit it pretty consistently.

Every team is going to just bait OBJ constantly at this point. He's going to get ejected what, half the games he plays?

Mike Evans was good enough in college to create hype for two players (Mike Evans and JFF).
He's a damn beast.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Between Sammy Watkins being made of distressed tinfoil and OBJ being potentially insane, it's looking like Mike Evans and Allen Robinson are so far the winners of the great 2014 WR class.

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KB13, Jordan Matthews, and Brandin Cooks have had some success, but Evans and Robinson have hit it pretty consistently.

Jarvis Landry is a pretty good one as well (just stuck in the perpetually inert Miami offense, dude would be a monster if he was Belichick's slot receiver), and Allen Hurns as an undrafted is easily the best bang-for-the-buck of the class.

DVOA finally has opponent adjustments in and ... Philly is still on top. Wow. Seattle has closed the gap, but being ranked 4th on offense and 2nd on defense is pretty impressive, especially since the Browns aren't quite as bad as we all want to assume. Don't get me wrong, they're still bad, but 22nd on offense and 25th on defense.

The Texans stand out as the worst team with a 3-1 record. They gave Oz a bazillion dollars, drafted speedy WR Will Fuller and are blessed with the 32nd overall offense. Nice!

Jacksonville's offense is ranked 28th, which I will tell you is exactly one spot below Baltimore. As their defense is up to 11th place, I'm going to stick to my guns and declare that Bortlesmania looks more like an albatross for Gus Bradley's career each and every week.

It's time, Legion.

Oh my lord you're like down to the minute.

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