[News] What's Trump Done This Time, part 2

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The continuation of the thread chronicling Trump's gaffes, faux pas, and other face palm-worthy antics. Light discussion welcome.

CONTENT WARNING: This thread regularly contains vulgar language, as well as depictions of racism, sexism, and sexual assault, among other potential triggers.

Trump wrote:

Without the media, this wouldn’t even be a contest, but the media has built her up.

Maybe it's just me, but I think it's precisely the opposite.

The constant trumpeting of "Benghazi" and more recently "e-mails!!!!" by the media has directly influenced how people think about Clinton. If you repeat the same lies over and over then there's a not insignificant portion of the population that will believe it regardless of evidence to the contrary. Without the media running constant stories on those two subjects, I think Clinton would be significantly higher in the polls than she currently is.

Trump claiming the media is universally against him is dumbfounding.

Serengeti wrote:

Trump claiming the media is universally against him is dumbfounding.

Can't be a trod-on hero-of-the-people type if nobody's treading on you!

Trump’s potential SCOTUS appointee thinks America took a wrong turn when women got the vote

This is all from Thiel himself, not directly from Trump, so he may be full of crap. But this is a guy who sees problems when the wrong people vote, wants us back on the gold standard, and said "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible."

I'd like to think that even a Republican Senate would refuse to confirm someone just for being thoroughly unqualified at practicing law, though he might be too squishy on Roe for them as well.

Thiel as a nominee appears to be just gossip and rumor right now. And while the Republicans may have applauded his speech at their convention, I can't imagine they'd be too thrilled with the idea of confirming a supreme court nominee who's gay. They already think SCOTUS overreached with gay marriage.

Agreed- I don't really think there's a significant chance of Thiel getting on the Supreme or any other court. As far as I've seen the Trump camp hasn't said anything at all about it, so it's just "yeah whatever" for them. The most interesting discussion to come out of this for me has been "why do tech-bros gravitate to weird-right politics?" and this isn't the thread for that.

http://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/...

Child rapist.

An anonymous “Jane Doe” alleges that Trump raped her in 1994 while she was being held as a sex slave in an apartment belonging to Jeffrey Epstein, a well-known American financier and convicted sex offender.

He is a man who Trump is known to have a relationship with and whom he once described as a “terrific guy” who “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

But....emails.

He Finally Said It is the CNN headline.

I prefer the Huffingtonpost headline becuase it underscores how rediculous this has been

Trump Admits Obama Was Born In The United States After 5 Years Of Racist Denials

From CNN

Donald Trump finally acknowledged Friday that "President Barack Obama was born in the United States," reversing himself on the issue that propelled him into national politics five years ago.

Trump sought to end his longstanding attempt to delegitimize the nation's first African-American president with just a few sentences tacked on at the end of an event to unveil his new hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington.
But the issue isn't likely to die down any time soon. Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton called on Trump earlier Friday to apologize.
"For five years he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president," Clinton said at an event in Washington. "His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie."
Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.

Almost Every Word of Donald Trump's Birther Statement is a Lie

Except that's not true. Indeed, virtually every line of the statement is a lie.

Hillary Clinton did not allege that the president was born in Kenya. Trump did not compel Obama to release his birth certificate "when others had not"—Obama had already released a copy of his birth certificate, but critics, including Trump, believed it to be a fake. So Obama released a longer birth certificate in 2011—but that release did not bring "closure" to the issue. Instead, Trump called it a forgery, citing "Israeli science," and announced that he was sending a team of investigators to Hawaii to uncover the truth. He suggested that a Hawaiian health official who knew of the cover-up had died in suspicious circumstances.

Obama: ‘I Was Pretty Confident About Where I Was Born’

“I was pretty confident about where I was born,” Obama told reporters at the White House. “I think most people were as well. And my hope would be that the presidential election reflects more serious issues than that.”

He is probably brilliant, I know he is smarter than me by far but the fact that he has any hope about the seriousness of the presidential election kind of makes me think he is also a bit blinded.

I wonder if the Hawaii investigators Trump hired in 2011 are part of the hundreds of businesses and people suing him for refusing to pay for work he contracted them to do.

I think you're reading his statement wrong, he's intimating that he's disappointed that it isn't about more serious issues, that the press is acting more like celebrity gossip columnists than actual journalists.

Tanglebones wrote:
Hillary Clinton did not allege that the president was born in Kenya.

In fairness, the Obama campaign was fairly convinced her camp was the source during the 2008 primary.

qaraq wrote:

The most interesting discussion to come out of this for me has been "why do tech-bros gravitate to weird-right politics?" and this isn't the thread for that.

I would be interested in that thread. Sort of like Why Are So Many MMA Fighters Truthers, Conspiracists, And Just Plain Weird?

At the height of his Birtherism, Trump said in a 2014 interview that if he runs for president, he will "absolutely" produce his tax returns and that he'd "love" to do it.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...

Gravey wrote:
qaraq wrote:

The most interesting discussion to come out of this for me has been "why do tech-bros gravitate to weird-right politics?" and this isn't the thread for that.

I would be interested in that thread. Sort of like Why Are So Many MMA Fighters Truthers, Conspiracists, And Just Plain Weird?

I like the way her finger is inside the trigger guard and the barrel is pointed in his direction in the first picture. That'll end well one day.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

At the height of his Birtherism, Trump said in a 2014 interview that if he runs for president, he will "absolutely" produce his tax returns and that he'd "love" to do it.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...

Now that Trump has been caught in a lie this will surely end his Presidential bid! ..... right?

Quintin_Stone wrote:

At the height of his Birtherism, Trump said in a 2014 interview that if he runs for president, he will "absolutely" produce his tax returns and that he'd "love" to do it.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...

When I was Googling his Hawaii investigators this morning I found this rather disturbing nugget from 2011:

Fox News wrote:

Back on NBC, Trump said he wants Obama to do well, but the presidency is not going that direction.

"I love this country, but this country is going to hell. ... The world laughs at us. They won't be laughing if I'm elected president," he said.

Trump accused Obama of conducting a confusing policy on the civil war in Libya, saying "nobody knows what's happening, and now it looks like (Libyan strongman Muammar) al-Qaddafi is going to beat the United States."

"I'm only interested in Libya if we get the oil," Trump said. He said Obama "doesn't have a doctrine (on foreign affairs.) Foreign affairs is, we take care of ourselves first."

It kinda shows that the Trump we're seeing now isn't just an act he's putting on. Five years ago he had very similar views: the country's going to sh*t, he will be a strongman that other countries and groups will fear, that the US should use its military to take control of the natural resources of other countries, etc.

It's also telling that on the topic of Libya Trump now insists that he was never for intervention even though he repeatedly called for intervention. That also opens the question as to just exactly what he's criticizing Hillary about when he claims that our intervention there was a disaster when he clearly wanted boots on the ground.

Donald Trump Says Hillary Clinton’s Bodyguards Should Disarm to ‘See What Happens to Her’ - The New York Times
https://apple.news/ARwgbPJPgTsCCGOMX...

Because hey maybe something bad my happen to her...

Satire!!! Jokes!

NormanTheIntern wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:
Hillary Clinton did not allege that the president was born in Kenya.

In fairness, the Obama campaign was fairly convinced her camp was the source during the 2008 primary.

[citation needed]

TheGameguru wrote:

Donald Trump Says Hillary Clinton’s Bodyguards Should Disarm to ‘See What Happens to Her’ - The New York Times
https://apple.news/ARwgbPJPgTsCCGOMX...

Because hey maybe something bad my happen to her...

Satire!!! Jokes!

Yeah, I don't get that. If he were a real 2A supporter, wouldn't he demand that Hillary arm herself as well?

sometimesdee wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Donald Trump Says Hillary Clinton’s Bodyguards Should Disarm to ‘See What Happens to Her’ - The New York Times
https://apple.news/ARwgbPJPgTsCCGOMX...

Because hey maybe something bad my happen to her...

Satire!!! Jokes!

Yeah, I don't get that. If he were a real 2A supporter, wouldn't he demand that Hillary arm herself as well?

It's more that people who don't think the 2nd Amendment is the best amendment and who don't want people with mental or behavioral issues or a history of violence or substance abuse to have unrestricted access to firearms capable of killing dozens of people in a crowded area in just a few minutes aren't really American and should be 'removed' from the country.

I know, OG. I was being facetious. The only way to stop a Trump supporter with a gun is a Hillary with a gun...

Trump's embracing the whole "deplorable" thing.

He opened a rally in Miami tonight with a Les Deplorables meme created on r/The_Donald and set to "Do You Hear the People Sing" from Les Miserables.

Is it possible that he really is rubber and we're glue? Has anyone looked into this?

Chaz wrote:

Is it possible that he really is rubber and we're glue? Has anyone looked into this?

That's what his hair is made of!

Good God. Don't read the comments on the video. America is over. It was a good run. We did some good, we did a lot of bad. We tried to make the world better. Sorry we failed.

Now he's threatening to sue the NY Times for "irresponsible intent".

(I'm guessing in relation to their recent article about him, "A Trump Empire Built on Inside Connections and $885 Million in Tax Breaks").

I like the way he says it's his lawyers that want to sue, but he decided not to. Riiiight.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

I like the way he says it's his lawyers that want to sue, but he decided not to. Riiiight.

Under the precedent set by the Supreme Court in the landmark case of New York Times v. Sullivan in 1964, any public figure suing for libel must prove a defamatory statement was made with actual malice, “with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not”.

“Irresponsible intent” does not exist under any standard or doctrine found in US law.

In typical Trump fashion, you say something negative about him, he'll go on a rambling, incoherent rant about you. This time it was Robert Gates, director of the CIA under Bush Sr, former Secretary of Defense, was president of Texas A&M University and president of the Boy Scouts of America.

Donald Trump carried his attacks on former Defense Secretary Robert Gates from Twitter to a rally in Colorado Springs Saturday night, calling Gates a "nasty guy."

“We had a clown today, an absolute clown. Robert Gates, he’s supposed to be an expert, he’s been there forever," Trump said.

"Never met the guy, never saw him. I saw him on television, didn’t like him. The end result is look where we are. He’s a mess, OK? He’s a mess, so he goes out and he says negative things about me. I never met him, I never talked to him. Believe me, I am so much better at what he’s doing than he is, you won’t even believe it."

Trump hit Gates for criticizing presidents George W. Bush and Obama.

"He’s a nasty guy, probably has a problem that we don’t know about," he said.

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