FF16: GWJFFL 2016 registration and discussion

Today's the last day of official registration. I've decided to extend registration through the end of the week. Be sure to check the registration log to make sure I have your entry correct. Here is the current state of affairs.

Redraft: We currently have 28 people signed up. If no one else joins, LeapingGnome, UpToIsomorphism, and myself have all offered to give up their redraft team (ok, I'm offering now). Combined with putting matttutor on the redraft waiting list (which isn't as bad as it sounds if he joins Keeper and/or Dynasty), we simply wouldn't activate D2 this year.

Alternately, we could discuss reducing the size of each league down to 10 teams. Rabbit and FSeven (see below) both had D1 teams, and I know a couple people who would pick up a second team so there's no doubt we can hit 30. Doing so would certainly impact a number of format variables (e.g. roster size, schedule, and playoff bracket size). Although my personal preference is to not open up this can of worms, I'm willing to entertain the possibility.

Dynasty: Assuming matttutor is up for checking out the Dynasty league, there are 10 people signed up. I'll be PM'ing FSeven as we haven't heard from him yet. LeapingGnome and UpToIsomorphism might also be willing to grab a slot, especially if we take them up on their offer to drop out of redraft. If necessary, I can fill a spot. I think Dynasty is OK. Worst case scenario, we can discuss taking the league size down to 10.

Keeper: If matttutor is game for the special snowflake that is Keeper (auction draft being the biggest difference), we're good to go here. Rabbit might also show up. (I'll PM him one more time.) LeapingGnome and UpToIsomorphism might also be interested. Finally, I'd be willing to fill in the last slot if no one else wants it. Essentially, Keeper is fine.

Thanks for taking all your free time doing this. Really appreciate it.

I also prefer not to open the 10 team can of worms. Guess we'll see.

So, to be clear, I'll join all the leagues that will have me

ukickmydog wrote:

I also prefer not to open the 10 team can of worms. Guess we'll see.

Yeah, would be a shame since Keeper is my favorite league and has nothing to do with keeping Antonio Brown for his entire career.

Keeper's got it's 12; no worries there.

matttutor wrote:

So, to be clear, I'll join all the leagues that will have me :)

Thanks for the clarification. Cheers.

Not that I've thought about it more, I wouldn't mind sitting out as well. I'm still getting adjusted to working overnights, and doubt I'll be able to keep up with much football as it is. But if we miraculously have enough to fill 3 I would play.

I would be interested in joining Redraft... if I pick Division 3 I win automatically right?

(Probably D2 will be right for me)

Noob question: does this use NFL fantasy or similar or is it custom?

Rules are in the OP

garion333 wrote:

Rules are in the OP

Ta

I'm interested in joining redraft. Sorry for the late request - but I literally listened to the podcast mention this as the thread of the week like 5 minutes ago. If there's no space that's totally cool.

I'd be happy to fill into fantasy leagues where needed. Any format.

I'm totally up for taking a second dynasty team and exploiting them as a farm team for House Legion.

*Legion* wrote:

I'm totally up for taking a second dynasty team and exploiting them as a farm team for House Legion.

If I cared about Dynasty I would totally use my veto here.

Given that 1) keeper has 12 (or more) people signed up and 2) we are passed the priority registration period and 3) there are no unaccounted-for potentially-returning managers anyway, I've sent PMs to Apollo0507, Kush15, and matttutor to welcome them to the league and, in the first two cases, ask their preference of team to take over.

If I've counted properly, Dynasty still has 1 spot available. The next person to sign up for that league will get the last spot. In the meantime, Kush15, matttutor, and SHDuetzmann, feel free to start looking at the available teams (1, 2, 3, 4) with the knowledge that if the aforementioned "next person" is FSeven, #4 will be unavailable.

Redraft is up to 31 people. Hopefully, the Conference Call's shout-out will net us a few more. At that point, I'm confident that we can probably get a couple people to double-up to fill out D2 as necessary.

Welcome new people; we're glad you're here. As the thread title says, this is the place to discuss the league(s), including ask questions. If you have a question, someone else probably does to so please ask it.

How did I not know about GWJ FF?

I'm interested in any format, but can only commit to one GWJ FF league. Redraft is preferred, but I'll sign up for essentially anything.

PS - How much is the entry fee for pro, before I commit to signing up for it?

PPS and Edit - If you twist my arm and no one else commits, I could probably do redraft and dynasty.

PPPS - The dynasty and keeper rules are... sparse. What does a year one player do for a team, inherit someone else's team?

PPPPS - Are there transcriptions anywhere of the conference call? It's hard for me to do podcasts, but easy to read stuff.

All the redraft leagues are free except Pro.

Yes, you will inherit a team.

I've never seen a transcript for the podcast.

Welcome to the leagues!

Grump, I sent you a reply regarding my Keeper team.

Is there a limit to the number of players I can choose to keep and when is the deadline for declaring Keepers?

Excited to jump into Keeper this season!

Apollo0507 wrote:

Grump, I sent you a reply regarding my Keeper team.

Is there a limit to the number of players I can choose to keep and when is the deadline for declaring Keepers?

Excited to jump into Keeper this season!

In Keeper we use an auction $ system (with a blind bid $ system for free agent pickups) and the players inflate price into the next year. The draft budget for keeper is $200, so you can keep as many players as you want up to their total sum of $200*!

*Small caveat, you need to keep at least $1 per open slot on your team, as the minimum bid is $1. So technically you can keep as many players as you want up to $200 - ($1 * # of open roster spots).

Apollo0507 wrote:

Grump, I sent you a reply regarding my Keeper team.

Is there a limit to the number of players I can choose to keep and when is the deadline for declaring Keepers?

Excited to jump into Keeper this season!

Grump has a spreadsheet in the OP with the keeper prices for all the players so you can figure out who you want to keep.

I'm definitely in for D1 and Dynasty. Sorry it took me so long to respond.

In for any leagues with open spots. Longtime forum lurker and the recent podcast spurred me to join.

Hopefully not too late! Thanks again.

Um, I can't seem to access my inbox. Is that because I just signed up days ago and some other authorization has yet to occur or have I erred in some way?

Yeah you need to make I think 10 posts to get to above Coffee Grinder before you can use PMs.

Uh... OK. I won't spam this thread so let me ask this - someone said above the dynasty / keeper aspects of the rules are sparse - I concur!

Or rather, I have questions - so keepers go up by $4 or so per year and you can keep as many as you want provided you can pay for them all.

But each of these leagues, dynasty and keeper, each have an in-season free-agent draft, right? How are those players valued for $ purposes?

I assume all these drafts are all done live at some point?

matttutor wrote:

But each of these leagues, dynasty and keeper, each have an in-season free-agent draft, right? How are those players valued for $ purposes?

Waivers are a weekly blind bidding process. Each team has a $100 waiver budget for the season. In Keeper, a claimed player's pre-inflation value is the amount of the winning waiver bid.

I assume all these drafts are all done live at some point?

All drafts are done live through Fleaflicker (except Keeper, because FF does not support auction drafts), and when the league participants are finalized, Grump will share some WhenIsGood links for everyone to indicate the times they would be available to live draft, and Grump picks the most accommodating times for each league.

matttutor wrote:

Or rather, I have questions - so keepers go up by $4 or so per year and you can keep as many as you want provided you can pay for them all.

I don't recall the exact percentages but the increase goes something like "$4 or 40%, whichever is higher". We had some fun community discussion in the first couple years that resulted in some players (namely free agent pickups and players who over-performed against the league average at the position) gaining a higher inflation boost than others in order to simulate how hard it is to 'keep' a player on your roster if they can demand a higher salary.

More.

Is there a limit to # of players kept in dynasty? Does dynasty just have a straight yearly draft for whoever is left or, as I've seen in other similar leagues, is there a system involving where the players kept were originally drafted (or other setup)?

In keeper, if I draft TE Mr. X for $5 and then I decide to stream TEs and just drop Mr.X, is Mr.X still $5 for pre-inflation purposes?

18 dynasty keepers. The dynasty draft consists of everyone not on a roster at draft time, including the incoming rookie class.

Grump will have to answer the keeper value one for certain.

matttutor wrote:

In keeper, if I draft TE Mr. X for $5 and then I decide to stream TEs and just drop Mr.X, is Mr.X still $5 for pre-inflation purposes?

As I recall, it is the average of the two values ([draft price + pickup price] / 2)

So theoretically, you could drop Mr X and then pick him back up for a lower price in order to reduce his price. 2 things stopping that:
1) You are giving other teams a chance to pick up Mr. X while he's on the open market
2) the FA pickup window closes before the end of the year, meaning you can only stream TE's for so long

I remember there was some contention about that second part, particularly for playoff teams with injured QB's who needed someone, ANYONE, they could plug into the roster, but I forget the resolution to that.