The Big Gun Control Thread

Another example of our "polite society" seen a couple of blocks from my workplace today:

Taxi driver loading the trunk stumbles on some luggage and almost falls onto nearby car. Driver of car pulls gun on him and starts cussing him out before driving away. Witness is a nervous wreck for the rest of the day.

Why didn't the driver stand his ground and shoot the guy? Why didn't a bystander whip out his gear and shut down the assailant?

Doesn't *anyone* have good guy guns in this country?

Two mock advertisements created for comedic panel show The Gruen Transfer on ABC (A for Australian).

https://twitter.com/GruenHQ/status/7...

https://twitter.com/GruenHQ/status/7...

I was holding my breath a little because for past segments, some of the pitches have gone into real off-colour humour territory, but thankfully that wasn't the case here. Personally, I didn't think either were as good as the panel seemed to. Still an interesting experiment.

Robear wrote:

Why didn't the driver stand his ground and shoot the guy? Why didn't a bystander whip out his gear and shut down the assailant?

Doesn't *anyone* have good guy guns in this country?

Everyone armed was being too polite to shoot the bereaved motorist.

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Tyops wrote:

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Which part of "bearing arms" includes the use of f*cking emojis?

TIL that Apple is the US government according to Young Conservatives.

Nope. Can't be serious. Poe's at work. Gotta be.

If gun emojis are outlawed, only outlaws will have gun emojis

Chumpy_McChump wrote:

Nope. Can't be serious. Poe's at work. Gotta be.

It's really hard to tell, because while it's really goddamn stupid, an avowed goal of the gun extreme is to normalize guns...so I could see why they would raise a stink over this.

Based on the number of posts from my conservative friends who link/share the fb group that posted it, Young Conservatives, I must sadly confirm it is NOT satire. It is basically a millennial conservative group on fb. If you want to see something similar you could (though I wouldn't recommend it, too many possible trigger warnings/ don't read the comment type things, but I figured I'd mention because it is taken seriously) Cloyd Rivers on Facebook. It looks like it takes Poe's Law to the extreme, but it's meant to be taken seriously. :/

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/loc...

Within half an hour drive from my house.

They are all good guys with guns...... until they aren't.

This will get tossed out pretty quickly. He will maintain he felt threatened, feared for his life, etc. and they will reduce the charges or they will be dropped.

farley3k wrote:

This will get tossed out pretty quickly. He will maintain he felt threatened, feared for his life, etc. and they will reduce the charges or they will be dropped.

I doubt it, actually.

Unlike, say, Zimmerman, there was no physical confrontation and he shot from behind a window.

Supposedly he shouted at them to leave the premises while he was near the street (curious if there's a sidewalk there or not). He's also not helping himself by having lied to the dispatchers... with no evidence of vandalism at this point.

Hopefully this will be the case that will shut down some of these morons who believe even minor trespassing is worthy of a death sentence.

Demosthenes wrote:
farley3k wrote:

This will get tossed out pretty quickly. He will maintain he felt threatened, feared for his life, etc. and they will reduce the charges or they will be dropped.

I doubt it, actually.

Unlike, say, Zimmerman, there was no physical confrontation and he shot from behind a window.

Supposedly he shouted at them to leave the premises while he was near the street (curious if there's a sidewalk there or not). He's also not helping himself by having lied to the dispatchers... with no evidence of vandalism at this point.

Hopefully this will be the case that will shut down some of these morons who believe even minor trespassing is worthy of a death sentence.

It is fairly typical of the guns rights folks I know down here in the South who believe the means of physical violence comes with it rights to insert deadly force into petty disagreements. Don't like the fact that your neighbor is having a house party? Threaten them with a gun. Don't like that they park in front of your house? Threaten them with a gun. Don't like they are making noise too late at night? Threaten them with a gun.

The only thing that makes this even different is that he actually shot the guy.

Read the 911 transcript. He "fired a warning shot and, uh, somebody got hit".

WTF.

Stele wrote:

Read the 911 transcript. He "fired a warning shot and, uh, somebody got hit".

WTF.

Warning shot is aimed at the person you're warning, othewise... what's the warning?

Plus, note, he shot through a window, what was he going to do, fire a warning shot into the ceiling?

Demosthenes wrote:

Plus, note, he shot through a window, what was he going to do, fire a warning shot into the ceiling?

I dunno, maybe open the f*cking window first?

Not just that, "...fired a warning shot like I'm supposed to by law."

This whole story pisses me off because my neighborhood has a watch, and there is totally a guy who loves to talk our Facebook group about how he's locked and loaded in case "anything happens." *sighs*

CptDomano wrote:

Not just that, "...fired a warning shot like I'm supposed to by law."

This whole story pisses me off because my neighborhood has a watch, and there is totally a guy who loves to talk our Facebook group about how he's locked and loaded in case "anything happens." *sighs*

Words cannot describe how much I hate holster sniffers.

CptDomano wrote:

Not just that, "...fired a warning shot like I'm supposed to by law."

Of course there is no North Carolina law that says anything about firing warning shots...

Is NC a Stand your ground law? I would guess his lawyers will invoke it and somehow convince the jury that scary unarmed black people were approaching his property and he feared for his life.

My guess is he walks free and raises a good chunk of money on a gofundme to pay for his legal and medical from the experience.

I maintain that "through a window" is probably going to destroy most of this guy's arguments about being immediately threatened.

Yeah, that sounds an awful lot like "fired from a position of ambush". The police not finding any firearms won't help him either...

I would expect any minute now some magically appearing pictures of scratches on his head that weren't noticed by the investigating officer yet were visible by the time he got to the station.

Awesome. Let's hope this is actually enforced.

"Arrest-related deaths" worries me. I would say all deaths while being arrested or while in custody would be better.

WINK News wrote:

PUNTA GORDA, Fla. – A 73-year-old woman was shot and killed by a police officer in front of about 34 people Tuesday evening during a live gun demonstration just before 7 p.m. on Tuesday at police headquarters, the department said.

Mary Knowlton was one of two Citizen Police Academy students chosen to participate in a “shoot/don’t shoot” role-playing situation, Punta Gorda police said. The demonstration was supposed to instruct the class about making decisions “using simulated lethal force,” according to Chief Thomas Lewis.

Knowlton was “mistakenly struck” with a live round during the lesson’s “first scenario,” the department said.

She was rushed from the police department to Lee Memorial Hospital where she was pronounced dead, PGPD said.

That's such bullsh*t. I don't understand how that even happens. Why is a gun being used in a role-play even loaded? And "mistaken struck with a live round"? Really? You can't even say she was shot? FFS.