On Television, Cinema and Race

Prederick wrote:

Okay, so Beyonce released "Lemonade" over the weekend. It is, among other things, blackity-black-black-black-bliggity-black-black-when-"Before I Let Go"-comes-on-at-the-family-cookout-blickety-black.

So, obviously, Alex Jones says that Beyonce (in concert with the CIA) is trying to start a race war.

Now, Alex Jones' hilariousness aside, I have a question, because what he said is a continuation of a theme I hear a lot.

How come black people are always the ones "trying to start a race war"?

Pure projection. These guys are so small-minded that they can't conceive of people thinking differently from them. Since they long for a race war, they assume everyone else does too.

PiP wrote:

I think the real question is why aren't you trying to start a race war? If white people were treated like that, we would have totally started a race war by now.

Actually, white Southerners did start a race war during the Reconstruction era. And they finally won in 1877, until the federal government finally overturned at least part of their victory with the Civil Right Act of '64 and the Voting Rights Act of '65.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

Beyonce is selling lemonade? And this has caused a race war? I'm so behind on the latest news.

Beyonce's "Lemonade" was written by a pretty amazing poet. It's hit like an atom bomb.

For what it's worth, digital copies of the album include a one hour movie, which I believe has also aired on HBO. Even if you don't like Beyonce, watch the movie. It's incredible.

Prederick wrote:
Prederick wrote:

No idea where to put this exactly, but...

Also, as the negro who started this thread, I claim eminent domain over all topics of discussion.

Pff, I've 3/5ths of a mind to write an indignant reply.

As someone who participated in the Women on 20s polls, I'm overjoyed that "Dirty Harrie" is getting this kind of recognition.

As for TV and movies, her ghost appeared to Larry Wilmore recently, she led slaves on a difficult path to freedom on Key & Peele, and was imagined by Elite Delta Force 3 as a participant on The Amazing Race.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Okay, so Beyonce released "Lemonade" over the weekend. It is, among other things, blackity-black-black-black-bliggity-black-black-when-"Before I Let Go"-comes-on-at-the-family-cookout-blickety-black.

So, obviously, Alex Jones says that Beyonce (in concert with the CIA) is trying to start a race war.

Now, Alex Jones' hilariousness aside, I have a question, because what he said is a continuation of a theme I hear a lot.

How come black people are always the ones "trying to start a race war"?

Pure projection. These guys are so small-minded that they can't conceive of people thinking differently from them. Since they long for a race war, they assume everyone else does too.

I don't know if it's wanting to start a race war so much as tacitly acknowledging that black people have had more than enough provocation to do so.

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Okay, so Beyonce released "Lemonade" over the weekend. It is, among other things, blackity-black-black-black-bliggity-black-black-when-"Before I Let Go"-comes-on-at-the-family-cookout-blickety-black.

So, obviously, Alex Jones says that Beyonce (in concert with the CIA) is trying to start a race war.

Now, Alex Jones' hilariousness aside, I have a question, because what he said is a continuation of a theme I hear a lot.

How come black people are always the ones "trying to start a race war"?

Pure projection. These guys are so small-minded that they can't conceive of people thinking differently from them. Since they long for a race war, they assume everyone else does too.

I don't know if it's wanting to start a race war so much as tacitly acknowledging that black people have had more than enough provocation to do so.

Except they don't believe that the provocations are that at all... thus why they demean all the various provocations we see (like how Tamir Rice clearly deserved to be shot if police thought they were in danger from a toy gun... meanwhile, having a cigarette outside, I saw about 8 white kids all with toy guns having their own mock war and yet somehow, the police aren't here and gone all trigger happy yet).

Chumpy_McChump wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Okay, so Beyonce released "Lemonade" over the weekend. It is, among other things, blackity-black-black-black-bliggity-black-black-when-"Before I Let Go"-comes-on-at-the-family-cookout-blickety-black.

So, obviously, Alex Jones says that Beyonce (in concert with the CIA) is trying to start a race war.

Now, Alex Jones' hilariousness aside, I have a question, because what he said is a continuation of a theme I hear a lot.

How come black people are always the ones "trying to start a race war"?

Pure projection. These guys are so small-minded that they can't conceive of people thinking differently from them. Since they long for a race war, they assume everyone else does too.

I don't know if it's wanting to start a race war so much as tacitly acknowledging that black people have had more than enough provocation to do so.

The church shooter in Charlston explicitly said his goal was to provoke a race war.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Chumpy_McChump wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Okay, so Beyonce released "Lemonade" over the weekend. It is, among other things, blackity-black-black-black-bliggity-black-black-when-"Before I Let Go"-comes-on-at-the-family-cookout-blickety-black.

So, obviously, Alex Jones says that Beyonce (in concert with the CIA) is trying to start a race war.

Now, Alex Jones' hilariousness aside, I have a question, because what he said is a continuation of a theme I hear a lot.

How come black people are always the ones "trying to start a race war"?

Pure projection. These guys are so small-minded that they can't conceive of people thinking differently from them. Since they long for a race war, they assume everyone else does too.

I don't know if it's wanting to start a race war so much as tacitly acknowledging that black people have had more than enough provocation to do so.

The church shooter in Charlston explicitly said his goal was to provoke a race war.

Yeah. That was Dylann Roof.

Every time someone says "I can't be racist. I have black friends." I remind him that Dylann Roof did too.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/fox-...

I've always found it mystifying that some white dudes get up in arms about this. I know, privilege, etc. But there are a lot of words that you don't use in certain company. Here is a word, that you were not going to use correctly in the first place, that just doesn't apply to you. Why is that so rage-inducing?

kazooka wrote:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/fox-...

I've always found it mystifying that some white dudes get up in arms about this. I know, privilege, etc. But there are a lot of words that you don't use in certain company. Here is a word, that you were not going to use correctly in the first place, that just doesn't apply to you. Why is that so rage-inducing?

I desperately want to believe that at least some of these folks are well intentioned simpletons like Sheldon Cooper's mom who doesn't have the sense to know that "Ching chong" is not what you call someone from Asia. It is getting harder each day.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

And

I won't use the b-word, but "bad" applies to this group of Black female West Point graduates (from I think this year).
This photo just astounds.
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The Man Who Put Marvel In The Black

By now, you — along with the others who helped it collect more than $940 million, an audience that is pushing it to become 2016’s “first billion dollar earner worldwide” — have surely seen Captain America: Civil War and watched in amazement at how many black people are in the film. How did Moore figure out how to make a superhero film with black folks that appeals to a mass market? Captain America: Civil War is far more diverse than any other movie to come from this franchise — and that’s Moore’s handiwork. It’s funny —considering Moore had no idea who he wanted to be in Hollywood when he landed in L.A. He just knew he wanted in.

The West Point ladies got in trouble over another picture where they had their fists raised. Someone took it as support for the Black Panthers, the group not the Marvel hero. Well actually they didn't get in trouble because the issue was dropped. I'm not sure why they dropped the issue, maybe negative feedback.

Just finish watching the new Roots series on the history channel. I thought it was much better than the original but I have only seen the original once in middle school.

I only thought one thing was a little off that dealt with spies.

Spoiler:

At one point the story goes to a spy storyline. A white woman played by a x-man and her partner a black man pretending to be a slave. These two were sending out troop movements for the North. I actually liked this storyline but felt it didn't really fit with the rest of the series.

There has been a little bit of controversy over the show because Snoop Dog is against it. He basically said he was tired of seeing black people in movies and shows like this. I can feel Snoop Dog position but I don't agree with him. Snoop is in his 50s. This new show is more for people that weren't alive when Roots originally came out or for people that are just ignorant of what black people went through. I recall a white female movie reviewer saying she didn't like a movie because she thought the violence and bad things in it were over the top. I forget the name of the movie but it was the one about MLK. The movie was actually pretty tame and held back a lot in my opinion.

I guess the more ignorant people will think the new Roots is fiction and things were never that bad.

Baron, they West Point interviewed the people involved - participants and witnesses - and not one, Black or otherwise, mentioned that there was any political meaning to it. It was a symbol among the group of "solidarity", nothing else, and that was clear enough that the investigation was closed.

Miss USA is black this year and active military. I kind of forgot Miss USA was a thing.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

Miss USA is black this year and active military. I kind of forgot Miss USA was a thing.

Racist Conservatives Demand SEGREGATED Beauty Pageants After Black Woman Is Crowned Miss USA

I can definitely see now that Obama becoming president ended racism in America.

I so so very very very much wanted that to be a satire thing.

Yeah I have seen the racist comments. Funny how a common conservative position to take is to not attack the military unless the person is black or has something negative to say about the military.

A black girl will be playing Hermione Granger in the new Harry Potter and the curse Child. Racist go nuts. JK shames the racists. I believe this is only playing in London so racists from other places need not worry.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

A black girl will be playing Hermione Granger in the new Harry Potter and the curse Child. Racist go nuts. JK shames the racists. I believe this is only playing in London so racists from other places need not worry.

Woman, not girl. Hermione is an adult in the play. (From what I can gather, it actually takes place after the epilogue of the last book, seeing as how it somehow involves Harry's second son while he's at Hogwarts.)

Pretty sure that is in the American media editor's style book that rich white perpetrators have to be portrayed by their yearbook pictures and poor black victims must be portrayed by the scariest social media picture you can find.

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They have a new Vixen for Legends of Tomorrow. I have seen some complaints about them casting a lite skinned woman. I'm not really surprised by this. Usually Hollywood only have the dark skinned women play the angry black woman roles. I'm not really up on the character's history. I know the current Vixen is of mixed race but I'm not sure about her grandmother which is the new/old Vixen (time travel stuff).

Jesse Williams Mic dropped the BET Awards last night, In case you missed it (I sure did).

He's been pretty much on the forefront of high position players pushing for greater activism from black celebrity and pushing back towards the notions that those victimized by violence and oppression should have their task be to placate those who are bystanders.

Absolutely word a listen.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/...

So yeah.. more trope filled Hollywood nonsense.

TheGameguru wrote:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/...

So yeah.. more trope filled Hollywood nonsense.

Jesus, that comment section is bad, even for IGN.

Wondering when someone will remake Triumph of the Will or Birth of a Nation.

I think the former is more likely, unless Dinesh D'Souza decides to take on BLM...

Robear wrote:

I think the former is more likely, unless Dinesh D'Souza decides to take on BLM...

I can't believe I actually had to read D'Souza for one of my political theory classes in college. Just shows how far the guy has fallen intellectually.