Streamers with jobs

Veloxi wrote:

So after doing a lot of thinking, research and even running a poll, I'm moving away from Twitch entirely to YouTube streaming, and I'm damned excited about it. I know there are ways to stream to both but bleh, they seem problematic as f*ck.

Maybe when/if Twitch ever implements a full HTML5 video viewer, I'll give 'em another chance, but god damn I hate Flash with the passion of a billion suns.

Anyone else been streaming to YouTube rather than Twitch?

Extra Life will be my first time really streaming to YouTube. I did the one test stream and will be running two others before Extra Life, and am hoping to stream more regularly. YouTube automatically archives the videos to my channel, which is convenient, and now that I have a /live URL it makes it easy to tell people where to watch from.

So yeah, ultimately I anticipate it will be much better than Twitch.

I'm looking for some advice.

I bought an Xbox ONe and have been streaming Titanfall. The Twitch app says my recommended stream setting is 2500kbps - this is above the default speed for 'high' quality. However I'm getting really bad artifacts all over the screen as I move.

Is there any way to counter this? I read somewhere that lowering the quality of the stream actual makes the image better, but this seems counter intuitive.

Here's a video to show the quality

http://www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob/v/22...

1Dgaf wrote:

I'm looking for some advice.

I bought an Xbox ONe and have been streaming Titanfall. The Twitch app says my recommended stream setting is 2500kbps - this is above the default speed for 'high' quality. However I'm getting really bad artifacts all over the screen as I move.

Is there any way to counter this? I read somewhere that lowering the quality of the stream actual makes the image better, but this seems counter intuitive.

Here's a video to show the quality

http://www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob/v/22...

I have ZERO experience with this, but I seem to remember it being more like - you're creating a bottleneck trying to be too "high quality", and that dropping the quality can help smooth it out... kind of like how seeing CRTs on TV would do that "out of sync" flicker...

Or something... (I am not a doctor. Your mileage may vary. Etc...)

About to play Uncharted on PS4 at www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob

Wink,

I did drop the quality and it made a difference, but I'm not quite sure what. It wasn't as sharp, but beyond that hard to tell.

It's very frustrating that there's no clear, easily accessible, information on this stuff out there. I'm trying to decide what console would be best for Fallout 4 for streaming and it's fruitless

About to play Uncharted Remastered on PS4 at www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob

1Dgaf wrote:

About to play Uncharted Remastered on PS4 at www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob

Hatchet, what hours do you sleep?! I always get notifications to say you're online in the middle of the night!

Two Englishmen and a Yank are about to play Magicka 2 on PS4 at www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob

Giant lobsters. Why did it have to be giant lobsters!?

Bringing it back to 1997 with some X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter. Join me if you have the game!

https://gaming.youtube.com/spacegame...

Black ops 3 twitch.tv/hatchetjob

I'll be streaming the entire Black Ops 3 campaign.

Here's the playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p58...

It seems like Twitch on the Xbox One won't let you broadcast party chat. You can hear your own voice, but not those of your friends.

Anyone know how to get around this? Is there some setting that I'm missing? On PS4 you can choose to have your voice shared when people stream.

My first Twitch ban today! 24 hours for streaming Fallout 4 too early (even though it was through the PS4 built in streaming!)

Twitch has a flat rule against streaming pre-release games.

Veloxi wrote:

So after doing a lot of thinking, research and even running a poll, I'm moving away from Twitch entirely to YouTube streaming, and I'm damned excited about it. I know there are ways to stream to both but bleh, they seem problematic as f*ck.

Maybe when/if Twitch ever implements a full HTML5 video viewer, I'll give 'em another chance, but god damn I hate Flash with the passion of a billion suns.

Anyone else been streaming to YouTube rather than Twitch?

Around summertime this last year, I learned about Beam.Pro, and I switched almost immediately to making that my default platform, because I really like the site (despite it being in beta, and having the occasional bug and issue as they keep developing the site) and the community around it.

That said, I think they key is to find a platform/website/service that you like and focus there. Be it twtich.tv, beam.pro, hitbox.tv, or YouTube.

Personally, I use a restreaming service (I alternate between Joicaster.co and Restream.io) so that I hit Beam, Twtich, and YouTube. Beam because I want to, Twitch because "you have to", and YouTube for the archiving.

Though, if I had the time and felt less lazy, I'd edit my footage (which I also archive locally with a 3TB external drive), and upload highlights to YouTube - since nobody is going to sit and watch 4 hours of my footage to find the good/funny/best bits for me.

Find the service you like, and put your efforts there first and foremost - because whatever excites you and makes you happy to stream and share what you do will show through and can only make your streams better.

1Dgaf wrote:

It seems like Twitch on the Xbox One won't let you broadcast party chat. You can hear your own voice, but not those of your friends.

Anyone know how to get around this? Is there some setting that I'm missing? On PS4 you can choose to have your voice shared when people stream.

I have a vauge recollection of that being a privacy setting controlled by the people in your party. I don't do much console gaming, but I feel like it was mentioned on the Giant Bombcast or similar in the last year.

1Dgaf wrote:

Wink,

I did drop the quality and it made a difference, but I'm not quite sure what. It wasn't as sharp, but beyond that hard to tell.

It's very frustrating that there's no clear, easily accessible, information on this stuff out there. I'm trying to decide what console would be best for Fallout 4 for streaming and it's fruitless

There's no hard and fast rule, because it all depends on your computer, your connection, your streaming platform, and your viewer's connection(s).

Streaming at 3500kbps is ideal for many streamers, because that can support 1080p at 60 frames per second. That requires high upload speeds and low latency, however. Not to mention the time for the CPU encoding - or spare GPU power if you can encode with that (and multiple CPU cores doesn't really help here, as the encoding only uses a single core - I don't yet know of any that are multicore/multithread).

However, streaming at 3500kbps also means that your audience has to be able to download and process that much data - if they can't your stream will be jittery to them.

The fix for THAT is for the streaming platform to offer variable stream qualities. That's usually saved for Partners, however, because that can eat up a bunch of processing power on the provider's side. So far as I know only Beam.Pro offers viewer quality options to any/all streams.

Clusks wrote:

My first Twitch ban today! 24 hours for streaming Fallout 4 too early (even though it was through the PS4 built in streaming!)

ahrezmendi wrote:

Twitch has a flat rule against streaming pre-release games.

Yeah that's written plainly in the terms of service you didn't read when you made your twitch account

Thin_J wrote:
Clusks wrote:

My first Twitch ban today! 24 hours for streaming Fallout 4 too early (even though it was through the PS4 built in streaming!)

ahrezmendi wrote:

Twitch has a flat rule against streaming pre-release games.

Yeah that's written plainly in the terms of service you didn't read when you made your twitch account :P

That thing I clicked agree on as quick as a could?

I just found it weird that the PS4 let you stream it. I got Metal Gear Solid V early and whenever I tried to stream through the PS4, I was always met with a message that it wasn't possible. On the Saturday I got Fallout 4 I got the message, but Sunday it was working, so I presumed it was OK!

Wolf,

Thanks for the response. I could try using my Macbook to stream on Twitch, but I've not found a simple guide; compared to the PC, it seems more complicated than it should be (and my room isn't set up for it).

So, I'll stream on the One and PS4. Clearly my lack of highspeed upload, and their compression systems, means that 60fps games have problems with artifacts. Seeing as I'm going to playing a lot of CoD, that's a PITA.

(My stream-dream is to get a connection from a UK company offering 1gb up/down, but that's only for blocks of flats.)

Thanks for coming along for the ride, Druid. I trust you got your work done.

I'm streaming my Black Ops 3 multiplayer gameplay. I wondered whether I should, because I'm so bad at the game, but I realised that my level of skill is probably like most people's (especially gamers in their late 30s). Most times I'm toward the bottom of the table, occasionally I'll crack the top half. That's why the playlist is called I'm bad at Black Ops 3.

As Michael Jackson sang, you are not alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj_V...

About to set foot into Fallout 4 at www.twitch.tv/hatchetjob

I'm wondering what to title my videos to make life easier for viewers.

I use twitch to export my videos to YT, where they are automatically split into 15 minute chunks. Then, twitch adds 'part 1', 'part 2' etc., to the end of each title.

At the moment to make the videos easy to tell apart the title is 'Let's play game name Vid 1 (part 1)

Should it be 'Game name episode X part Y' or 'Game name hour X part Y'? Would it be an idea to include some kind description of what happens in the video?

SOmething to bear in mind that is that I might not play for a fixed amount of time. I could start and stop after an hour, but each video would still be in 25 minute chunks.

Can't you turn that 15 minute thingy off? I never broke 'em up like that.

Veloxi,

One can turn it off, yes. However I'm unable to upload videos to youtube that are longer than 15 minutes anyway, so the feature actually saves me editing time.

Oh man, you gotta get that cleared up, YouTube is f*cking annoying when you can only upload 15 minutes at a time.

I know. I've been in touch with a chap at YT and he wasn't able to sort it out. I can upload normally again in February. It happened because I streamed The Phantom Pain when I got it from the rental place, a couple of days before the official release.

Ohhhhhhhhh, yeah, that's kind of a f*ckup. :/

I had a similar thing happen to me when I got a copyright strike earlier this year, but thankfully it didn't stick. Hopefully you'll be back up and running sooner than February.