City-building Game Catch All

I don't mind the guy's voice, just that every other sentence out of his mouth includes either "f*cking", "like", or "whatever". So I just jumped to various places on the video and watched for a few seconds before jumping again, and eventually closing the tab.

Veloxi wrote:
D-Man777 wrote:
Veloxi wrote:

Ohhhh, thanks for this thread. Love city builders (Zeus being my fave).

You know these are almost exclusively NOT space cities, right?

I guess you could use yer 'magination.

Seriously, though, I'm a little surprised and immensely happy that you're participating in this thread. You're certainly one of the more passionate gamers on the site.

Aaww, thanks man. Games are indeed a passion of mine, and I do love them city builders. This reminds me actually that I need to play Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom. I'm told that's BETTER than Zeus, but I'll believe it when I see it.

It is really good. As good as Zeus but unique in that it is an asian city builder (are there any others)? For some reason it got some middling reviews for being too formulaic to Impressions games. I know this series has its quirks, but since when is that fundamentally a bad thing?

I have no idea why this isn't on GOG yet.

MeatMan wrote:

I don't mind the guy's voice, just that every other sentence out of his mouth includes either "f*cking", "like", or "whatever". So I just jumped to various places on the video and watched for a few seconds before jumping again, and eventually closing the tab.

I chored my way through the swearing to see more of the game in motion. Have to say I like what I saw, can't wait for more gameplay footage, hopefully from someone who doesn't talk like a teenager.

Veloxi wrote:
BadKen wrote:

Ugh, I tried watching that and could only stomach about five minutes of that guy's voice. I hope someone else gets to do some Let's Plays before release.

God, I got maybe 10 seconds. Please someone tell me my voice sounds better than that.

I think you're being literal here because his voice gets better after that.

But...

omni wrote:
MeatMan wrote:

I don't mind the guy's voice, just that every other sentence out of his mouth includes either "f*cking", "like", or "whatever". So I just jumped to various places on the video and watched for a few seconds before jumping again, and eventually closing the tab.

I chored my way through the swearing to see more of the game in motion. Have to say I like what I saw, can't wait for more gameplay footage, hopefully from someone who doesn't talk like a teenager.

Yeah. This is why they have subs! They're cool enough to say f*ck!

I believe quill18 did a Cities: Skylines livestream yesterday, so I'm hoping it will be up on youtube before too long.

It seems really odd that the foul-mouthed guy was chosen as one of their early previewers. For a new Gears of War, maybe. Not for a city builder.

MeatMan wrote:

Lethis

Is there any reason I should play that instead of Caesar 3 or Children of the Nile?

D-Man777 wrote:

I believe quill18 did a Cities: Skylines livestream yesterday, so I'm hoping it will be up on youtube before too long.

Are you sure it was him? Looking at his Twitch past broadcasts, the last time he streamed was Feb 7.

It was on the Paradox twitch channel, it just had some devs and Quil was there too. I saw the last 15 minutes or so..

Paradox usually puts that stuff up, right? I'd expect it eventually. Sooner rather than later.

Veloxi wrote:

Please someone tell me my voice sounds better than that.

Wellll...now that you mention it....

omni wrote:

It was on the Paradox twitch channel, it just had some devs and Quil was there too. I saw the last 15 minutes or so..

Well then I'm still confused, because Paradox's past broadcasts shows nothing for yesterday. There's just a CK2 stream from earlier today and nothing else since Feb 3.

garion333 wrote:

Paradox usually puts that stuff up, right? I'd expect it eventually. Sooner rather than later.

If you mean their Youtube channel, no. All I see there are trailers.

Maybe the PDXcon 2015 stream?

I see. That stream/video is from today (a few hours ago), not yesterday, plus that video's title says "Crusader Kings 2 with Arumba", hence my confusion.

D-Man777 wrote:

Paradox's Facebook

Ah, I didn't know they had a secondary Youtube channel (ParadoxExtra). I only knew about their main one.

Tamren wrote:

I wish there were more space colony games, macro scale ones like the old Outpost game.

This outpost game http://www.giantbomb.com/outpost/3030-18803/? I haven't thought about that game in forever....

Frahg wrote:
Tamren wrote:

I wish there were more space colony games, macro scale ones like the old Outpost game.

This outpost game http://www.giantbomb.com/outpost/3030-18803/? I haven't thought about that game in forever....

Man I loved that game. I've gotten it to work on modern operating systems, and it's still fairly fun in addition to still being sort of annoying.

After some of the lack of clarity and interface annoyances started to get to me I tried to go a step further and decompile it into source code, but wasn't very successful, if I remember correctly the better tools for that sort of thing balk at 16 bit binaries.

MeatMan wrote:
D-Man777 wrote:

Paradox's Facebook

Ah, I didn't know they had a secondary Youtube channel (ParadoxExtra). I only knew about their main one.

Welcome to the rabbit hole.

Outpost was one of the legendary failures of the mid-90's. Dramatically bad as delivered. I can't understand the respect it seems to have today... Outpost 2 was better, but not by much.

Greenmangaming.com has a survey that will get you 22% off your next order. Feel free to take the survey if you want (or you could just use the code CLOUDA-NTSURV-GMGW22)

Anyway, it seems to work for Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition, bringing it down to $31.20.

Link to Standard Edition here.

Paradox's Cities: Skylines live stream. Link should be to starting point just over an hour in.

Quill18 is indeed there, but he seems to be just a spectator. I haven't watched it yet.

D-Man777 wrote:

Greenmangaming.com has a survey that will get you 22% off your next order. Feel free to take the survey if you want (or you could just use the code CLOUDA-NTSURV-GMGW22)

Anyway, it seems to work for Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition, bringing it down to $31.20.

Link to Standard Edition here.

Not sure how that stacks up against Veloxi's:

Veloxi wrote:

Hey y'all, apparently you can use this voucher on GMG:

KPMN32-6VRM69-6INRND

On the pre-order price of Cities: Skylines

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/e...

Bringing it down to around $24. I'm really tempted.

Works out as around £18 for me, compared to £15/$24. I'm still gonna hold off until I've at least seen a large city functioning first. So no doubt there won't be these preorder deals by that time, but there will be inevitable discounts around, or reviews will be so glowing that full price is more than worth it.

EDIT: Bah, and then Nuuvem go and email me saying they have it for 50R$, which works out at £12 (about $19). Even if it's terrible.. that's getting close to too good to pass up.

omni wrote:

EDIT: Bah, and then Nuuvem go and email me saying they have it for 50R$, which works out at £12 (about $19). Even if it's terrible.. that's getting close to too good to pass up.

I've never heard of Nuuvem- what country are they from and have you used them before? Do you get a steam key? £12 would probably tip my hand.

They are based in Brazil. I've bought numerous steam games from them (Shadow of Mordor, Rome II, Elder Scrolls Online to name a few). I always pay with Paypal, and also pre-load my paypal account with the cash, that way the bank doesn't hear any of it/cause issues with foreign transaction.

It's a steamworks game, so they will just provide you with a Steam key, usually the day before release.

If using Google Chrome, it will auto-translate for you: http://www.nuuvem.com.br/produto/265...

The only thing it doesn't handle well is the £ during checkout. It keeps the value at the local currency (Brazilian Real - R$), but changes the symbol to a £.. so it looks like £49.99. Paypal exchange rate probably isn't the most competative, but for £12... You pays your money, you takes your choice At least they are a genuine store, unlike the 'grey market' places, but you may/may not feel happy with taking advantage of exchange rates on a personal level

I get the uneasy feeling that some of you are preparing to preorder this game. Of course it is your decision, but I just want to remind you that there is never any reason to preorder a digitally distributed game. Ever. Preordering makes games worse by focusing publisher attention on release day sales, encouraging them to overemphasize release dates and push things out before they are ready. Only you have the power to change this.

Quiet down Mr Sensible!

If I do end up pre-ordering, it will be the day before release and due to financial savings from release-day costs.

BadKen wrote:

there is never any reason to preorder a digitally distributed game. Ever.

Predownloading!
GMG (and theoretically others) having time-limited vouchers to reduce the price. Which might not be there at release day.
Most of the game I've pre-ordered in recent years, ended up being cheaper than what they were at release.

Skylines look overwhelming from those videos. But trying hard to finding a fun "city builder" - giving Anno 1404 a try currently - so maybe it could fit the bill.

Certainly not a game I would preorder either, too difficult to tell if the game will be awful or not.

Shadout wrote:
BadKen wrote:

there is never any reason to preorder a digitally distributed game. Ever.

Predownloading!

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GMG (and theoretically others) having time-limited vouchers to reduce the price. Which might not be there at release day.

If there are pre-release discounts, there will be post-release discounts.

Preorders are evil.

Shadout wrote:
BadKen wrote:

there is never any reason to preorder a digitally distributed game. Ever.

Predownloading!
GMG (and theoretically others) having time-limited vouchers to reduce the price. Which might not be there at release day.
Most of the game I've pre-ordered in recent years, ended up being cheaper than what they were at release.

Skylines look overwhelming from those videos. But trying hard to finding a fun "city builder" - giving Anno 1404 a try currently - so maybe it could fit the bill.

Certainly not a game I would preorder either, too difficult to tell if the game will be awful or not.

Fun city builder? Well, that's really subjective. The Anno series definitely plays differently than SimCity, Cities XL and (presumably) Cities Skyline. If you want something that has a bit more emphasis on fun than the somewhat dry nature of city builders give Tropico 4 a look. It's more like an Anno game than SimCity and you get to play as a dictator of an island.

garion333 wrote:

Fun city builder? Well, that's really subjective. The Anno series definitely plays differently than SimCity, Cities XL and (presumably) Cities Skyline. If you want something that has a bit more emphasis on fun than the somewhat dry nature of city builders give Tropico 4 a look. It's more like an Anno game than SimCity and you get to play as a dictator of an island.

Heh, yeah it is subjective. Not really liking Anno 1404 so far - though my main issue might be the campaign being too short-term goal oriented, never really allowing you to play.
Favorites would by far be Settlers 2 and Pharaoh. Banished did a good try, but was lacking longevity for me (opposite issue of Anno actually, I like having at least some goals and/or campaign to progress through).
I realize the actual city simulators are often a bit different from these, focusing on service coverage/city planning more than production chains for example, but still somewhat within the same genre.

BadKen wrote:

If there are pre-release discounts, there will be post-release discounts.

Sure, but when. At release day, the week after, the month after?