Benghazi Special Investigation

Kehama wrote:

I honestly didn't know there had been that many attacks on American compounds over the years.

I believe the actual number from the start of the Bush presidency to now is around 225 attacks on US Dept. of State facilities and employees, but I can't put my hand on the figures. Those were the ones that involved spaces directly controlled by State and also involved fatalities, during the Bush timeframe.

This is a slightly expanded list of attacks which included fatalities during the Bush timeperiod, from Politifact. There were 39 attacks overall on State Department property in that time period, and of course many more involving State employees in other locations. That's the number I saw referenced last week and can't put my hands on.

US seizes Benghazi raid 'ringleader' Ahmed Abu Khattala

The suspected ringleader of the September 2012 raid on a US diplomatic post in the Libyan city of Benghazi, which left four Americans dead, has been captured, the Pentagon says.

Ahmed Abu Khattala was taken into custody in a secret US military raid in Libya on 15 June.

He is now being held in a secure location outside the country, a Pentagon spokesman confirmed.

US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed in the attack.

"There were no civilian casualties related to this operation, and all US personnel involved in the operation have safely departed Libya," Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm John Kirby wrote in a statement.

He is now being held in a secure location outside the country

So much for the black sites actually being closed.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...

Well, that didn't take long.

I suspect if Obama discovered the cure for all cancer, Fox Nuisance would announce that he is putting an end to hospice jobs.

Paleocon wrote:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...

Well, that didn't take long.

I suspect if Obama discovered the cure for all cancer, Fox Nuisance would announce that he is putting an end to hospice jobs.

What about the poor pharma companies that make chemo meds? Think of all the people they'd lay off.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

What about the poor pharma companies that make chemo meds? Think of all the people they'd lay off.

Even if I worked there, that would be the best layoff ever.

Malor wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

What about the poor pharma companies that make chemo meds? Think of all the people they'd lay off.

Even if I worked there, that would be the best layoff ever.

You would think that, but folks I knew that built nuclear missiles lamented the last of the Minutemen that rolled off the assembly line.

Well the point of the investigation seems pretty clear now.

A source familiar with the committee told Fox News that public meetings and witness depositions are not expected to start until September.

The schedule, it seems, threatens to leak into the unofficial -- and increasingly early -- start of the presidential campaign season. And it could undermine the launch of any budding Clinton campaign by dragging the former secretary back before Congress for a public grilling.

"It’s going to become an increasing distraction for Clinton’s pseudo-campaign for the presidency,” Republican strategist David Payne said.

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Payne doesn’t expect Clinton to reveal new or damaging information about her role as secretary of State during the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on a U.S. outpost in Benghazi, Libya.

“But every day she spends on Capitol Hill talking about the tragedy is a day she’s not selling her latest book and convincing Democratic voters that she would be a great candidate in the 2016 primary,” said Payne, a vice president at D.C.-based Vox Digital.

So the Benghazi committee released about a thousand pages of transcripts from interviews with nine different military personnel. The interviews were conducted to see if a "stand down order" was given as has been posited by the more conspiratorially minded (including several people on the committee itself).

The personnel all agreed that no such order was given to the Special Operations team in Tripoli. Rather they were rightly ordered to protect the nearly 40 American embassy staff members there.

The interviews further clarified that sending the Special Operations team 600 miles to Benghazi wouldn't have changed what happened at all because the soonest it could have gotten there was four hours after the last attack happened.

That and the "team" only consisted of four members: a detachment leader, a communications expert, a medic, and a weapons operator. And the weapons operator had his foot in a cast.

Oh yeah, and the medic was credited with saving the life of one of the people injured in the attack when they were evacuated from Benghazi to Tripoli because he shared the same rare blood type.

So, what you're saying is that the weapons operator had his foot in a cast because of Obamacare which means that Obamacare caused Benghazi?

Al wrote:

So, what you're saying is that the weapons operator had his foot in a cast because of Obamacare which means that Obamacare caused Benghazi?

It's a good thing most of my office is at the company picnic right now. :Lol:

Al wrote:

So, what you're saying is that the weapons operator had his foot in a cast because of Obamacare which means that Obamacare caused Benghazi?

You have no idea how deep it goes. What's on the Muslim flag? The moon. What does "Al Qaeda" mean? "The base". Obama shut down NASA to keep them from finding the secret Muslim moon base.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
Al wrote:

So, what you're saying is that the weapons operator had his foot in a cast because of Obamacare which means that Obamacare caused Benghazi?

You have no idea how deep it goes. What's on the Muslim flag? The moon. What does "Al Qaeda" mean? "The base". Obama shut down NASA to keep them from finding the secret Muslim moon base.

But hows does the Obamacare angle fit in?

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
Al wrote:

So, what you're saying is that the weapons operator had his foot in a cast because of Obamacare which means that Obamacare caused Benghazi?

You have no idea how deep it goes. What's on the Muslim flag? The moon. What does "Al Qaeda" mean? "The base". Obama shut down NASA to keep them from finding the secret Muslim moon base.

But hows does the Obamacare angle fit in?

They had to close NASA to fund Obamacare. Obvs.

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
Al wrote:

So, what you're saying is that the weapons operator had his foot in a cast because of Obamacare which means that Obamacare caused Benghazi?

You have no idea how deep it goes. What's on the Muslim flag? The moon. What does "Al Qaeda" mean? "The base". Obama shut down NASA to keep them from finding the secret Muslim moon base.

But hows does the Obamacare angle fit in?

Because page 107 of the Obamacare established dhimmitude, a Muslim system of controlling conquered non-Muslim populations. Dhimmitude is basically a tax non-Muslims have to pay in exchange for Muslims tolerating their presence. The insurance mandate (and the penalty) is a form of dhimmitude because Obamacare suspiciously exempts Muslims from having to buy health insurance or pay the penalty.

OG_slinger wrote:

The personnel all agreed that no such order was given to the Special Operations team in Tripoli. Rather they were rightly ordered to protect the nearly 40 American embassy staff members there.

I'm assuming the panel will continue to look into this angle, though. You can't stop investigating this possibility just because the people directly involved TOLD you the thing you think happened didn't happen.

Kehama wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:

The personnel all agreed that no such order was given to the Special Operations team in Tripoli. Rather they were rightly ordered to protect the nearly 40 American embassy staff members there.

I'm assuming the panel will continue to look into this angle, though. You can't stop investigating this possibility just because the people directly involved TOLD you the thing you think happened didn't happen.

You know if they had left, Republican pundits and congressional members would instead of grilling him on how he left one embassy undefended to save another.

Demosthenes wrote:

It's a good thing most of my office is at the company picnic right now. :Lol:

Yeah, it's probably for the best. I hear Obama would have just cut in front of you in line anyway.

Al wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

It's a good thing most of my office is at the company picnic right now. :Lol:

Yeah, it's probably for the best. I hear Obama would have just cut in front of you in line anyway.

But he would have paid for like $300 in meat for me. I would take that hit. More so if I could give him a fist bump.

Kehama wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:

The personnel all agreed that no such order was given to the Special Operations team in Tripoli. Rather they were rightly ordered to protect the nearly 40 American embassy staff members there.

I'm assuming the panel will continue to look into this angle, though. You can't stop investigating this possibility just because the people directly involved TOLD you the thing you think happened didn't happen.

But you can stop when it's already been investigated previously. It's kind of like all those repeated recounts in Florida 2000 that the Republicans complained so much about.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

But you can stop when it's already been investigated previously. It's kind of like all those repeated recounts in Florida 2000 that the Republicans complained so much about.

Can't stop til there's a republican in the White House and this gun-hating Muslim socialist nanny state has been dismantled.

arise thread and walk again!

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/artic...

That now makes 10 official investigations leading to the same conclusion.

Shall we make it 11?

House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.

The panel voted Thursday to declassify the report, the result of two years of investigation by the committee. U.S. intelligence agencies will have to approve making the report public.

Thompson said the report "confirms that no one was deliberately misled, no military assets were withheld and no stand-down order (to U.S. forces) was given."

Seven come eleven baby! I feel a hot streak coming on!

Huh... I didn't see any big headlines talking about the results of this investigation or soundbites of house leaders announcing this. I just want to know... did they really stop at nothing to get the truth? That might warrant another look, right?

Kehama wrote:

Huh... I didn't see any big headlines talking about the results of this investigation or soundbites of house leaders announcing this. I just want to know... did they really stop at nothing to get the truth? That might warrant another look, right?

I'm actually surprised that the liberal talking heads/op-ed writers aren't going nuts about this right now. Oh look, 10 investigations in and still nothing has been shown to have been done incorrectly! I feel like this would be a nice little jab, even if it's utterly meaningless.

On the opposite side of the media, there's literally no reason for Fox and friends to cover this. This idiocy brings up ghosts of budgetary concerns, a failure to nail Obama, and the possibility that they were wrong... and who has time for that when we can try to suggest that unarmed isn't the appropriate word for Michael Brown instead in spite of the fact that he wasn't armed.

Kehama wrote:

Huh... I didn't see any big headlines talking about the results of this investigation or soundbites of house leaders announcing this. I just want to know... did they really stop at nothing to get the truth? That might warrant another look, right?

The article Paleo linked to was the results of the House Intelligence Committee's Benghazi investigation.

The mother of all investigations--the Benghazi Select Committee investigation--is still going on. Or, more specifically, it hasn't done anything since it was announced in May except try to hire the 30 people that are apparently needed to *really* get to the truth. The top lawyer, the one who's actually going to head the investigation, was just hired by the committee three days ago.

Yeah the result was super quiet and weeks old at this point. The GOP found something else to say Obama was completely wrong about a little while ago, so there was no reason to beat this particular drum. And no reason to cover the result - it leaves people wider leeway to pretend Benghazi still hasn't been investigated correctly or that it's ongoing if they never see the result.

I'm confused, why am I looking at pieces from two years ago?

Goddamn it. Sorry, I missed the dates.