Article with gifs! Now I can see what he's saying!
Andy Dalton in a sense is the worst QB in the NFL, just because he's not good enough to consistently lead his team to wins, but he isn't bad enough to find a replacement for him. He throws his passes from the Uncanny Valley of Marginal Competence.
Yeah. It's like mediocrity limbo. There's no way out until he shows himself to be genuinely awful.
Yes, they just signed up for 6 years of being happy with 8 wins. Plus Hue Jackson as their OC does not play to Dalton's 'strengths' and I am not sure if there has been a bigger downgrade this off season in coach changes than from Gruden to Jackson. I would not take a bet of 6.5 wins for the Bengals this year.
I've read he is changing to more of a running offense, but we will see.
More running? What year is this?
I find it hard to believe a coach would say during preseason they want to establish the run more. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me they want to be more physical or need some guys to really step it up this year.
For many, many reasons be thankful you don't live in Northeast Ohio. Every day there's Manziel news on the news. Every day. On tv. On the radio. Wherever you go, whatever you're doing you're gonna hear an update about him. You cannot get away from it. It's fantastic.
For many, many reasons be thankful you don't live in Northeast Ohio. Every day there's Manziel news on the news. Every day. On tv. On the radio. Wherever you go, whatever you're doing you're gonna hear an update about him. You cannot get away from it. It's fantastic.
"What would that be like," says guy who lives in area where Favre came to town a few years ago. "Whatever would that be like?"
Don't worry, after a few losses and when basketball season gets closer, it will be 24/7 LeBron in Cleveland.
Oh, that already happened.
Need any deets on his coming back party? His house is about 15 minutes away from where I live.
Not that I'm a Dalton apologist but what was Cincy's other option?
Let him play out the year and force him into a contract more representative of what the market would bear? The assumption here is that he puts up another mediocre season (because he is Andy Dalton) and Cincy can somewhat put the screws to him?
An alternative btw is not draft another QB and have him succeed day 1. I think too many people are getting wrapped up in the recent Luck/RG3/Kapernick/Russell success. Geno Smith people! Geno Smith!
Hearing David Wilson's career is over after using my 5th round Dynasty pick on him.
jowner wrote:Not that I'm a Dalton apologist but what was Cincy's other option?
Draft Teddy Bridgewater.
An alternative btw is not draft another QB and have him succeed day 1. I think too many people are getting wrapped up in the recent Luck/RG3/Kapernick/Russell success. Geno Smith people! Geno Smith!Geno Smith was garbage on draft day, no hindsight required. Open up that draft thread and you'll see me begging the Jaguars over and over to not be the team to take him.
And drafting a rookie would not require the rookie to succeed day 1. Dalton still had a year left on his deal.
Let him play out the year and force him into a contract more representative of what the market would bear? The assumption here is that he puts up another mediocre season (because he is Andy Dalton) and Cincy can somewhat put the screws to him?Yes, let him play out his contract. Make him earn an extension. Draft a would-be QB of the future. Let Dalton either step up and become a franchise QB and hold that other guy off, or fail to do so and move on.
Right but depending on how the deal is structured they can still technically start the same process 1 year later. Just minus some $$$ and some cap flexibility. Hopefully not too much if they did the deal right.
Show confidence in Dalton this year and use the draft to improve the rest of the team.
If hes still Andy Dalton in the 2014 season you draft a QB in 2015 to start to put the pressure on him.
Its hard to like much from Dalton from what I've seen, read in the Grantland article and knowing he has a guy like Green bailing him out.
You can somewhat understand the Bengals conundrum though. If they drafted Bridgewater this year they are minus Darqueze Dennard at CB (no conception of how good he is) and it might start the chain reaction of Dalton imploding by mid season and you throwing Bridgewater in too early.
I'm not sure if they could of structured the deal that 2 years from now Dalton is cut and it doesn't destroy their cap too much but I wouldn't be surprised if hes gone halfway through this deal. Just seems the Bengals are damned no matter what they did.
Hearing David Wilson's career is over after using my 5th round Dynasty pick on him.
The one nice thing about missing the first 7 rounds of the Dynasty Draft is that I can blame the AI for all things crappy.
Right but depending on how the deal is structured they can still technically start the same process 1 year later.
We're sitting here debating things we just don't know about yet. That's why I'm still quiet on this whole Dalton thing. It's practically guaranteed they used Kaepernick as a basis but we still don't know.
jowner wrote:Right but depending on how the deal is structured they can still technically start the same process 1 year later.
We're sitting here debating things we just don't know about yet. That's why I'm still quiet on this whole Dalton thing. It's practically guaranteed they used Kaepernick as a basis but we still don't know.
Its the Bengals who are we kidding!
Its probably a 6 year guaranteed contract where he has to start every game!
I feel like the Bengals got what they wanted: the ability to cut or dump him. I think this is a two year deal and then they'll figure it out after that.
I can't seem to find anything good being said about EJ Manuel.
I can't seem to find anything good being said about the line in front of him either.
Grantland ran this Dalton article today, intended to be a critique on Dalton and why he hadn't yet earned a big contract.
I finally got around to reading this today. Great piece. Bill Barnwell is definitely among the top 10 things I miss about it not being football season.
I've got Grantland on my RSS. They don't post that many daily stories, so it's easy to find the good stuff (Barnwell, Zach Lowe on NBA) and avoid Bill Simmons' navel lint.
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