NFL 2013: Playoffs: Conference Championship

I would want Sherman to talk smack on his manning face

In what should be too sad for even Cleveland to consider, the Browns are reported to have interviewed Greg Schiano for their head coaching position.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

In what should be too sad for even Cleveland to consider, the Browns are reported to have interviewed Greg Schiano for their head coaching position.

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Who could be even less appealing? Mike Mularkey? How about Jim Caldwe.. oh, right.

Hey, how about Rod Marinelli?

TheGameguru wrote:

I would want Sherman to talk smack on his manning face

Sherman is too smart to start talking smack against Manning before the game. Manning is good enough already, and to talk smack against him runs the risk of giving him a focus and a reason to beat you.

mudbunny wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I would want Sherman to talk smack on his manning face

Sherman is too smart to start talking smack against Manning before the game. Manning is good enough already, and to talk smack against him runs the risk of giving him a focus and a reason to beat you.

Well... we would only see the Manning Face at the end of the Super Bowl presumably in a loss.. so I'm not sure your point.

TheGameguru wrote:
mudbunny wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I would want Sherman to talk smack on his manning face

Sherman is too smart to start talking smack against Manning before the game. Manning is good enough already, and to talk smack against him runs the risk of giving him a focus and a reason to beat you.

Well... we would only see the Manning Face at the end of the Super Bowl presumably in a loss.. so I'm not sure your point.

Ahh, I missed the "face" part and read that as "I want to see Sherman talk smack against Manning". I blame not being fully awake yet.

Speaking of Richard Sherman, here he is getting warmed up.

Apparently ESPN Desportes shoved a mic in Sherman's face before Erin Andrews got to him after Sunday's game. (You can see her hovering in the clip.)

Oh, and guess who NFL Films mic'd up for Sunday's NFC title game.

Yep, those two.

Hmm.. Sherman did say all he said at the end was Good Game and got shoved in the face for that.. my feelings towards his outburst have warmed up even more

TheGameguru wrote:

Hmm.. Sherman did say all he said at the end was Good Game and got shoved in the face for that.. my feelings towards his outburst have warmed up even more :)

I hadn't seen the angle of him reaching out to shake hands either. Puts things in a totally different light.

More rumors flying around that the Browns are going to hire Mike Pettine. Dude interviewed three times, I can't see how this is going to go over well.

TheGameguru wrote:

Hmm.. Sherman did say all he said at the end was Good Game and got shoved in the face for that.. my feelings towards his outburst have warmed up even more :)

Sherman on fire.

garion333 wrote:

More rumors flying around that the Browns are going to hire Mike Pettine. Dude interviewed three times, I can't see how this is going to go over well.

Hey, he's like their fourteenth choice and has never been a head coach past the high school level; what could possibly go wrong?

Pettine was hired by the Browns. My gf's father is excited and can't wait for next season. I'm shocked it took three interviews and can't get over that.

Well, you have to be excited when about ten guys have turned you down for the job and the new guy has never been a head coach past the high school level.

TheGameguru wrote:

Hmm.. Sherman did say all he said at the end was Good Game and got shoved in the face for that.. my feelings towards his outburst have warmed up even more :)

Yeah... as best as I can tell, he's saying: "hell of a game". Which means he's actually being class about the whole thing.

garion333 wrote:

Pettine was hired by the Browns. My gf's father is excited and can't wait for next season. I'm shocked it took three interviews and can't get over that.

Aww, I thought this was true: http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/01/browns-hire-adorable-stray-kitten-new-head-coach. I guess you can't trust what you read on the Internet after all.

MoonDragon wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Hmm.. Sherman did say all he said at the end was Good Game and got shoved in the face for that.. my feelings towards his outburst have warmed up even more :)

Yeah... as best as I can tell, he's saying: "hell of a game". Which means he's actually being class about the whole thing.

How can that be? I was told he was classless by angry tweets and comments on espn.com.

MoonDragon wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Hmm.. Sherman did say all he said at the end was Good Game and got shoved in the face for that.. my feelings towards his outburst have warmed up even more :)

Yeah... as best as I can tell, he's saying: "hell of a game". Which means he's actually being class about the whole thing.

I don't know about class, it was right after the interception and there was time on the clock still. It's not like the game is over and players are shaking hands. Granted, Crabtree is a bigger douche by smacking his helmet, just walk away at that point.

With that said, I am more on Sherman's side than I was prior. Someone made a great point in an article that the fans are so upset at Sherman, and they don't show 1% of that anger towards the fact that there are so many off the field arrests of NFL players.

With that said, I am more on Sherman's side than I was prior. Someone made a great point in an article that the fans are so upset at Sherman, and they don't show 1% of that anger towards the fact that there are so many off the field arrests of NFL players.

Exactly!.. Even here we've had FAR more discussion about Sherman than Hernandez and he could possibly be charged with 3 murders..

TheGameguru wrote:
With that said, I am more on Sherman's side than I was prior. Someone made a great point in an article that the fans are so upset at Sherman, and they don't show 1% of that anger towards the fact that there are so many off the field arrests of NFL players.

Exactly!.. Even here we've had FAR more discussion about Sherman than Hernandez and he could possibly be charged with 3 murders..

In fairness, most of the discussion has been on whether Sherman is an unmitigated ass and if complaints about him are racist. There's not much discussion with Hernandez: he seems awfully guilty of murder, race isn't an issue, and no one is saying anything about his charity work.

The thing about Sherman's WWE tirade after the game is that without knowing anything about him beyond the display of amazing talent and a tendency to run his mouth a lot during games, is that him screaming about being "talked to" makes him look like a poor sport and a overgrown child. I don't think anyone will disagree that taunting a team after you beat them is classy, that isn't a racist statement. Was his outburst off-putting? I thought so, because I'm not really used to anyone screaming about their defeated opponent after a game. When the video shows him telling other players "good game" and I hear about the good he does off the field, I am happy to change my mind that he isn't a classless jerk, and just an emotional guy who was caught up in a moment; but ignorant of his quality at the time he scared poor Erin Andrews... not so much.

Atras wrote:

In fairness, most of the discussion has been on whether Sherman is an unmitigated ass and if complaints about him are racist. There's not much discussion with Hernandez: he seems awfully guilty of murder, race isn't an issue, and no one is saying anything about his charity work.

The thing about Sherman's WWE tirade after the game is that without knowing anything about him beyond the display of amazing talent and a tendency to run his mouth a lot during games, is that him screaming about being "talked to" makes him look like a poor sport and a overgrown child. I don't think anyone will disagree that taunting a team after you beat them is classy, that isn't a racist statement. Was his outburst off-putting? I thought so, because I'm not really used to anyone screaming about their defeated opponent after a game. When the video shows him telling other players "good game" and I hear about the good he does off the field, I am happy to change my mind that he isn't a classless jerk, and just an emotional guy who was caught up in a moment; but ignorant of his quality at the time he scared poor Erin Andrews... not so much.

I haven't jumped in on the discussion yet but isn't the taunting what this whole discussion is about? There are tons of these guys in MMA (mixed martial arts) and many of them are very good. However whenever one of them jumps into the ring I'm always rooting for the guy who shows some respect to his opponent when on the mic. My personal feeling is talk as much s##t as you want privately but when speaking publicly keep it respectful. Also, if you choose to talk smack publicly don't be surprised if people try to vilify you.

Edit: I still don't understand how this has become such a big issue. There are tons of people like this in sports. This is like Rex Ryan run Jets 101 (not too much this year though). Maybe 2 weeks of no football people really have to dig deep to find stuff to write about?

Atras wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
With that said, I am more on Sherman's side than I was prior. Someone made a great point in an article that the fans are so upset at Sherman, and they don't show 1% of that anger towards the fact that there are so many off the field arrests of NFL players.

Exactly!.. Even here we've had FAR more discussion about Sherman than Hernandez and he could possibly be charged with 3 murders..

In fairness, most of the discussion has been on whether Sherman is an unmitigated ass and if complaints about him are racist. There's not much discussion with Hernandez: he seems awfully guilty of murder, race isn't an issue, and no one is saying anything about his charity work.

The thing about Sherman's WWE tirade after the game is that without knowing anything about him beyond the display of amazing talent and a tendency to run his mouth a lot during games, is that him screaming about being "talked to" makes him look like a poor sport and a overgrown child. I don't think anyone will disagree that taunting a team after you beat them is classy, that isn't a racist statement. Was his outburst off-putting? I thought so, because I'm not really used to anyone screaming about their defeated opponent after a game. When the video shows him telling other players "good game" and I hear about the good he does off the field, I am happy to change my mind that he isn't a classless jerk, and just an emotional guy who was caught up in a moment; but ignorant of his quality at the time he scared poor Erin Andrews... not so much.

You do know that most of the NFL players talk all sorts of trash and nonsense towards each other during the game and many times after as well.. Andre Waters was known to hit opposing players after the game even. None of what Sherman did is particularly new..except perhaps this time someone shoved a mic in his face at the end of the game.

Totally! Taking it off the field, after a win is the only part I really don't like, and it's not the end of the No Fun League as we know it that he yelled instead of the usual "They played a great game, we just came up bigger when we needed it" trope.

Completely on Sherman's side now.

I hate when people write up fake apologies for things they say or do. Everything he said in that video was from his heart, it did not sound rehearsed or written down, it was as sincere as anything I ever heard. He also brings up the fact of not doing anything illegal. If anything, he just needs to control his emotions, but don't we all at times?

Sherman wrote:

"Maybe I'm talking loudly on the field and saying things I'm not supposed to, but there was hockey game where they didn't even play hockey. They just threw the puck aside and started fighting. I thought, 'Oh man. I'm the thug? Geez.'"

VERY valid point.

Can we make a Super Bowl thread yet?

Nomad wrote:

Can we make a Super Bowl thread yet?

This thread was way late. Might as well let it live a few days.

Bill Barnwell posted up a stat that's fascinating.

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Spoiler:

Player A is Russell Wilson.
Player B is Peyton Manning’s season split in half.

The most compelling case I've heard made for Seattle winning the Super Bowl is their relative success against "immobile" QB's. If Seattle's defensive backfield can get away with disrupting the timing of Denver's WR's and TE's as they try and release into their routes AND get pressure on Manning it could be a long rough road for Denver on the offensive side of the ball.. BUT I still believe Denver will get opportunities to convert into points..so even if its not 20+ points 17 might be enough to win if Seattle's offense can't find a way to score. Percy Harvin might help..but could one good whack put him right back on the sidelines?

If Seattle comes to the Super Bowl with 2 entirely different defensive packages they might win. One package for the first half when Manning does his in game "learning phase" offense we have seen all year, calling routes and watching realtime defensive reactions. With the exception of a few games (mostly losses because it screwed with their system) the majority of the Broncos offensive points came in the second half, after Manning had learned the reads and was able to audible to counter certain looks. The Seahawks can negate this to a certain extent if they significantly switch things up defensively in the second half.

At least that how it plays out in my head.