NFL 2013: Week 8

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Enix wrote:

Now that CAR is over .500 for the first time in five years (true fact; look it up)

Brad Nessler made sure everyone watching the game on TV knew that factoid.

Nessler-->Carolina going over .500 = Gruden-->Freeman's only been on the team for 14 days

I should have gone with TRUE FACT, LOOK IT UP!!1! because, yeah, I heard Nessler say that, oh, a lot last night. But, hey, it's been FIVE YEARS since CAR has been over .500, and I don't know how to act.

I like Mayock a lot on the NFL telecasts, but I'm not warming up to Nessler. Sure, he's a pro and all that, but the first time I hear his voice each Thursday I always think I've tuned into an SEC game by mistake.

garion333 wrote:

Schiano still isn't fired. What's taking them so long?

They spent like 20 minutes debating it on First Take this morning. Baffling.

garion333 wrote:

Schiano still isn't fired. What's taking them so long?

One, the Glazers move slowly, and two, I really do think they're waiting on the NFL/NFLPA investigation into whether he leaked the news about Freeman being marginally in the drug program for not filing the proper ADHD medication. If they just fire him, the guy makes something like $10.5 million more; if they find out he did talk openly about confidential, private medical information, they can fire him with cause, and he gets zilch.

He deserves zilch, to match his win total this year. :p

Schiano needs to go. Watching last night, I saw a team more futile than Jacksonville, and got a real scare over getting that #1 pick.

Fire Schiano and win some games, Tampa!

Is TB actually a bad team? Timing wise this might actually work out for the best.

You look at KC and they have seemingly pulled a 180 with one coaching move and landing Smith. In reality they were never that bad honestly.

jowner wrote:

Is TB actually a bad team? Timing wise this might actually work out for the best.

You look at KC and they have seemingly pulled a 180 with one coaching move and landing Smith. In reality they were never that bad honestly.

No NFL team is ever all that far from competing. Not even the Jags and Bucs.

If he Jags, for instance, had capable QB play, there are enough weapons on that offense to do some damage, and cover up a lot of other shortcomings.

"Bad" is always kind of relative. Almost every bad team is a heartbeat away from winning again, if they make the right moves. The level of talent that separates the #5 team from the #30 team is just not all that much. The hard part is getting it. Whenever a team truly hits on a draft class or two, it tends to change that team's outlook for years.

Tampa is far from lacking talent, they're just playing about as badly as could be imagined. Revis isn't 100%, but he's still very, very good, but the combination of him being used in a very strange manner (not following around the best WR when in man, and frequently being in zone) plus just loads of breakdowns in coverage means his impact is minimal. The defensive line has Gerald McCoy (excellent) and Adrian Clayborn (pretty good). Lavonte David is my new man-crush; by my count last week, he had 6 tackles (4 of those behind the LOS) plus a pass defensed to prevent a TD vs. Atlanta by halfway through the second quarter. Offense has been shaky, but it's good enough to have won some games. There's lots of talent on the roster, it's just playing like crap. Yes, yes, it's not "talent" if it's playing badly and all, but this team, with a coach they didn't loathe, could easily have a winning record.

Also, you'd think Cam Newton had spent enough time in Tampa to know about the cannons:

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He's just surprised that the Bucs scored.

Sorry that was a easy one.

jowner wrote:

He's just surprised that the Bucs scored.

Sorry that was a easy one.

It was actually just because the Bucs got into the red zone. They needed some reason to fire off the cannon.

You're all discounting Mike Glennon's ability to string together a drive against soft coverage while down three scores just so Schiano can kick a meaningless field goal.

I mean, you should discount it. Keep it up.

"The Buccaneers are a bigger dumpster fire than the Jaguars. There. I said it."

And finally, someone said:

The Bucs beat the Jaguars in attendence in 2009. But in 2010, 2011, 2012 and thus far in 2013, Jacksonville has easily outdrawn its fellow Floridians. (Why don't more people mention this when the discussion of a team heading to London picks up?)

Might be the first week we don't have 40 people in pick'em, unless someone shows up in the next 5 minutes.

21-0. 49ers dealing with time difference well.

Stele wrote:

21-0. 49ers dealing with playing a winless team well. :D

FTFY.

The Chiefs are doing their thing to yet another back-up QB. 13-0, and not just the score, but first downs, too.

The Pats are terrible. It's going to be a long and boring winter.

The 49ers game is on normal tv here, which is nice since that means I get to watch a game. Only other none sky sports games we get are late ones and since I work Monday, I can't watch those. But boy do the Jags suck.

I guess I'll shut up now. :-S

Jayhawker wrote:

I guess I'll shut up now. :-S

Oooh... trickeration!

I'm on the road, so not watching. I was listening, but we just stopped at a Cracker Barrel, so I didn't see how they scored.

Worst Rougher the Passer call in the history of the game. Kiwanuka did everything he could to stop his momentum, barely bumped Matt Barkley, and was flagged. Barkley hardly flinched on the play and it's roughing the passer. Horrible.

Meanwhile, Giants get a fumble recovery with 1:30 and all 3 timeouts and pretty much run the clock down.....talk about pissing away your momentum. Kevin Gilbride is horrible.

Not sure why the Eagles didn't try a 50-yard FG. Starting to get the feeling neither team wants to win this game.

49ers gave up points? WTF?

The early games suck. Possibly really, really suck.

Yeah, most definitely, really, really suck.

The games might suck but that Pats' volleyball-style INT didn't suck at all. Pretty amazing.

Cle-KC is a good game.

Browns just blew it. Had a stop, forced a punt from the end zone and fumble the return.

Oh Cleveland...

The Giants hate winning. Holy punt fumble into a TD, Batman.

Pats block a field goal. Really came back to life in the 2nd half.

Davone Bess... 3 drops, 1 fumble. Trying to secure the loss for Cleveland.

Stele wrote:

Davone Bess... 3 drops, 1 fumble. Trying to secure the loss for Cleveland.

Bess has been awful. On the Browns' likely last play, Campbell had a great effort to at least get the ball off; would have been a somewhat tough catch, but Bess slid and it hit him in the gut, he just dropped it. Jason Campbell has looked really, really good, though.