I'm assuming that you can also see his, and borrow from him if you want. Right?
No, he would also have to grant shared access to his account for that computer from his side, and he would have to be in the beta to do that.
Wait, you have to authorize their computer locally? I couldn't just pull up my Steam client and give, say, momgamer shared access to my library even though I'm in Waggleland and she's in Long Story?
Yes, either authorize locally, or have logged in to that computer and installed a game previously. For several years now you could see other games that had been installed from another account being logged in. With the new family sharing, you can now send a sharing request to the account that had originally installed the game.
psoplayer wrote:momgamer wrote:I'm assuming that you can also see his, and borrow from him if you want. Right?
No, he would also have to grant shared access to his account for that computer from his side, and he would have to be in the beta to do that.
Okay, that makes sense for now. But once it hits the wild he should be able to do that. Right?
Sharing is a one-way action, from a single account, to a single computer. Once it goes live, everyone that uses the family computer could individually authorize it for sharing and then you'd have a big buffet of games for anyone who logs in on that computer, either in the family or not.
I'm pretty sure it's specific games that can be exclusively played on one machine at a time, and not the entire shared library.
Let's hope Abu confirms my suspicion.
GOOD JOKE!
So, you can share your library with 10 devices, but only 1 of the 10 can use it to play a game at any given time? So we know what happens if sharee computer A is playing a game, and then owner O decides to play (A gets booted after 5 minutes) -- but what happens if sharee computer A is playing a game, then sharee computer B tries to play a game from O's library? Is it permitted, or does B get a message saying the library is unavailable, or does A get booted? My guess is the middle outcome.
ClockworkHouse wrote:Wait, you have to authorize their computer locally? I couldn't just pull up my Steam client and give, say, momgamer shared access to my library even though I'm in Waggleland and she's in Long Story?
No, you have to login to YOUR Steam account on the PC that you wish to grant access. I was able to do this through join.me (or any other screen-sharing app). The concept is based on trusted machines, not users. I had to remotely login to my son's computer, login to Steam as myself, then grant access to his computer.
That's... less than ideal. I was hoping it would be a friend-invite system with multiple verifications.
Abu5217 wrote:ClockworkHouse wrote:Wait, you have to authorize their computer locally? I couldn't just pull up my Steam client and give, say, momgamer shared access to my library even though I'm in Waggleland and she's in Long Story?
No, you have to login to YOUR Steam account on the PC that you wish to grant access. I was able to do this through join.me (or any other screen-sharing app). The concept is based on trusted machines, not users. I had to remotely login to my son's computer, login to Steam as myself, then grant access to his computer.
That's... less than ideal. I was hoping it would be a friend-invite system with multiple verifications. :(
Yes, but reasonably fair... It is, after all, intended as a way to share games within a family/household.
Keep in mind, Valve/Steam is not looking at this as sharing between multiple people, but sharing between machines that the primary account holder has access to.
Uh... wha-? This doesn't make any sense to me. If I already have access to the machine then I can already share it with other people.... even indefinitely in offline mode including in another country or whatever. There really isn't much point to this.
Why do they then specifically make it about sharing between people (because a person is an individual Steam account) if this is how you say it is in this sentence?
I don't really see why they have implemented this if there's a better workaround (even though not technically allowed) out there already... unless SteamOS machines can only play "online"...
The difference is that users on the "other" machines can be logged into their own Steam accounts, and therefore accrue their own achievements, and maintain their own cloud-based game saves, etc. If someone were to use your account, logged in offline, that person wouldn't get those benefits... and honestly, I'd be more worried about my own personal cloud saves getting overwritten/corrupted in this sort of scenario.
The difference is that users on the "other" machines can be logged into their own Steam accounts, and therefore accrue their own achievements, and maintain their own cloud-based game saves, etc. If someone were to use your account, logged in offline, that person wouldn't get those benefits... and honestly, I'd be more worried about my own personal cloud saves getting overwritten/corrupted in this sort of scenario.
That's fair enough. I don't care about achievements and I don't use cloud saves (I only have one PC). So you can probably see where I come from.
It certainly makes sharing a lot less useful for me, but I'm sure it'll be handy for some.
momgamer wrote:Abu5217 wrote:Yes, there is distinction. My games show up under his, in a separate section labeled "Abu5217's Games"
That's cool. I know they can handle having two people's accounts with different games on the same machine - found that out when I bought a used computer. I wonder what it's going to look like with 10 people's libraries in there.
I'm assuming that you can also see his, and borrow from him if you want. Right?
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No, I can't see his now, since his account is not a part of the Beta at this point. I would assume that once this is in full release, and were he to authorize my machine (ha! Of course I have his password, so I would do it myself) then yes, I would see his games.
Actually, you can see what it looks like now, even though my kids aren't a part of the Beta:
This is from my Steam client, on a PC that has two of my kids accounts also installed (on different Windows Profiles)
Since they have not authorized my PC yet, I can't play their games.
What does Grid View look like? Is there a drop down on the top like All Games/Recent/Installed ?
Seems they sent a new batch. I just got in.
Tho, one question, to authorized the computer, can you authorized the computer through a web page?
EDIT : Just tried with my linux box for sharing, and you can revoke from a webpage, you can't authorize. You need to log in Steam itself.
Oh well. It's a nice addon feature so far.
Just got my invite today!
I'm also in. I hope they don't mind that my "family" member lives on the opposite side of the earth in Brazil.
Looks like everyone who was in the Steam group for this beta was accepted. I've experimented with it, works pretty well. I had her logged in with her account playing my copy of Spelunky. I logged in and started playing Chivalry. I only received a brief popup like when someone sends you a Steam message in the bottom right corner, when I brought up the Steam menu there was no indication that I needed to log out within the next 5 minutes.
Wouldn't she be the one getting the warning, not you?
Wouldn't she be the one getting the warning, not you?
I worded it wrong. I was describing her computer's messages while I was on my computer in Chivalry.
Duoae wrote:Wouldn't she be the one getting the warning, not you?
I worded it wrong. I was describing her computer's messages while I was on my computer in Chivalry.
So was she booted from the game after 5 mins? Seems like an omission to not tell to save up?
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