Xbox One Catch-all

Jayhawker wrote:

I chose EA because they have already made clear they are in a partnership with Microsoft to make the XB1 work. Sony wont shut them out because they already saw what that did to the Dreamcast.

I have a buddy that bought a PS3 because he bought a PS2 to play Madden and NHL, despite me saying me and a couple of our other friends were playing sports games on the 360. There are lots of people like him. He will buy a PS4, unless there's no Madden.

Madden, FIFA, Battlefield, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age would all cost Sony PS4 sales if they were not on the PS4.

Jayhawker wrote:

Madden, FIFA, Battlefield, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age would all cost Sony PS4 sales if they were not on the PS4.

However, given that the US and to a lesser extent the UK is the only place where the xbone is strong, EA would probably be losing out in the bigger picture by snubbing the PS4.

Scratched wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Madden, FIFA, Battlefield, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age would all cost Sony PS4 sales if they were not on the PS4.

However, given that the US and to a lesser extent the UK is the only place where the xbone is strong, EA would probably be losing out in the bigger picture by snubbing the PS4.

That's EA's best selling sports title. And it is due to sales all over the world.

This...

Jayhawker wrote:

I'll agree that calling everyone that revolted simple-minded was insulting and unnecessary.

Then this...

Jayhawker wrote:

But there was a mass of folks aggressively not getting it, and willing to drink the Sony anti-innovation Koolaid.

I mean, how many times did that smug video of Sony VPs demonstrating sharing get posted. As Microsoft's message on sharing gets out, how absolutely Luddite looking is that?

So what you're saying is that you should have insulted everyone differently?

Jayhawker wrote:

You want cheaper prices? What about sharing games with friends across the country. If you each agree to buy a different game, you are looking st $30 a game. And you can still trade the game in.

Everybody claims that DRM isn't for the customer, but I'll take Microsoft's scheme over clinging to discs.

I don't think people are "clinging" to discs. Your wild swings at everyone who disagrees with you misses one simple point. Microsoft hasn't clearly explained why their system is better. I think most gamers don't care about DRM so much as they care about value. That's why Steam works. Because people have faith now that they'll get enough sales and gifted games that the lock-in is a trade-off worth making. The same goes here. If Microsoft made it crystal clear that people could easily share games then my only objection would be that I really don't want that camera plugged in all of the time.

NOTE: Please try and respond to this without pejoratives. It would help make this an actual discussion.

Jayhawker wrote:
Scratched wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Madden, FIFA, Battlefield, Mass Effect, and Dragon Age would all cost Sony PS4 sales if they were not on the PS4.

However, given that the US and to a lesser extent the UK is the only place where the xbone is strong, EA would probably be losing out in the bigger picture by snubbing the PS4.

That's EA's best selling sports title. And it is due to sales all over the world.

I think that was Scratched's point. EA can't afford to skip the PS4 because the PS4 will likely be strong in Europe, where FIFA sells like gangbusters.

I never enter contests like that because I don't want my Twitter or Facebook accounts to be product shills. Basically, you have to tweet that you entered in order to be eligible.

It's the same as EA offering bonuses if you send messages promoting their games to others on XBL. Of course, for those I send them to my wife and daughter.

SallyNasty wrote:
Shadout wrote:

If I could consistently buy new releases digitally, for $40-45, console companies and publishers could implement pretty much whatever DRM schemes they want for all I care.
I just can't see that happening.

Why can't you see that happening? It happens right now on Steam. Like, all the time.

When?
I cant remember Steam ever having a release game for such a price.

There isnt a whole lot of new PC games right now I guess, but all the preorders I can find, and relatively new games, are €50-€60

Just to be 110% clear, I'm obviously not talking about small indie titles that has a standard release price of $20. They do indeed sell for less than $60
The full price games.

So, are they saying I can play my game and one of my "family members" can also play the same game?

From the previous Penny Arcade Report link:
You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

PRG013 wrote:

So, are they saying I can play my game and one of my "family members" can also play the same game?

From the previous Penny Arcade Report link:
You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

As has been the case, Microsoft continues to be unclear.

But how I interpret it is that you can play any game on your home console at any time. One family member at a time can play any game you own on your home console on any other Xbox at the same time. But two family members cannot play games from the home account at the same time on other Xbox's.

So, home Xbox: play any game, at any time, even if a family member is playing it 3000 miles away on another Xbox.

See, if true? Amazing. I'll get a couple of my best friends in my "family". Possibly my brother if he'll have me.

Cannot wait to convince my friends to play a certain game by just being about to share the full thing.

Full game > demos, which often don't exist.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I'll get a couple of my best friends in my "family". Possibly my brother if he'll have me.

PRG013 wrote:

After Superstorm Sandy, our power was out for 8 days. I used my generator (after driving to PA to buy gas) to fire up the Xbox360 and play games on it. I had no internet because the lines were down all over the place.

This is not going to be possible on the Xbone.

I believe a superstorm is what's called an "edge case".

Gravey wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

After Superstorm Sandy, our power was out for 8 days. I used my generator (after driving to PA to buy gas) to fire up the Xbox360 and play games on it. I had no internet because the lines were down all over the place.

This is not going to be possible on the Xbone.

I believe a superstorm is what's called an "edge case".

Tsk. Gravey they wouldn't have "super" in the title if it wasn't a common occurrence, duh.

If the sharing on the Xboxone pans out like everyone seems to think it will that indeed would be a very awesome thing!

Gravey wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

After Superstorm Sandy, our power was out for 8 days. I used my generator (after driving to PA to buy gas) to fire up the Xbox360 and play games on it. I had no internet because the lines were down all over the place.

This is not going to be possible on the Xbone.

I believe a superstorm is what's called an "edge case".

I would have grounded my daughter for wasting expensive electricity on gaming.

The Conformist wrote:
Gravey wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

After Superstorm Sandy, our power was out for 8 days. I used my generator (after driving to PA to buy gas) to fire up the Xbox360 and play games on it. I had no internet because the lines were down all over the place.

This is not going to be possible on the Xbone.

I believe a superstorm is what's called an "edge case".

Tsk. Gravey they wouldn't have "super" in the title if it wasn't a common occurrence, duh. ;-)

Quite. I don't mean to understate the seriousness of global warming, but it's probably safe to forgo considering superstorms when making your decision about which gaming console to purchase this year.

Gravey wrote:
The Conformist wrote:
Gravey wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

After Superstorm Sandy, our power was out for 8 days. I used my generator (after driving to PA to buy gas) to fire up the Xbox360 and play games on it. I had no internet because the lines were down all over the place.

This is not going to be possible on the Xbone.

I believe a superstorm is what's called an "edge case".

Tsk. Gravey they wouldn't have "super" in the title if it wasn't a common occurrence, duh. ;-)

Quite. I don't mean to understate the seriousness of global warming, but it's probably safe to forgo considering superstorms when making your decision about which gaming console to purchase this year.

To clarify, we had to run the generator at least 2x a day (3 hrs in morning and 3 hrs at night) to keep the food frozen, house warm and generate hot water.

The kids were going stir crazy since the schools were closed. The generator put out enough power that I gave my kids and hour each for gaming. One played the Wii and the other the Xbox. At night, we charged the phones and watched Blu-Rays & DVD's on said TV.

Don't blame me when the zombie apocalypse occurs. The Xbone will be useless.

But considering, there haven't been any cases of rage filled monkeys, I preordered one anyway.

It might be useless. But we will have a 360, a Wii, a Gamecube, a Vita, a 3DS, a DS, a Gameboy, an iPad, an iPhone, a WP8 phone, a third smartphone when my daughter upgrades her WP7 phone, and a ton of board games.

PRG013 wrote:

Stuff about not having power

Do you have a cell phone with a data plan? Turn on the Wifi hotspot, get the Xbox online long enough for it to dial home and be cool, and play away.

I've seen it done multiple times for title updates with 360's that had different versions of title updates for the same game.

PRG013 wrote:
Gravey wrote:
The Conformist wrote:
Gravey wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

After Superstorm Sandy, our power was out for 8 days. I used my generator (after driving to PA to buy gas) to fire up the Xbox360 and play games on it. I had no internet because the lines were down all over the place.

This is not going to be possible on the Xbone.

I believe a superstorm is what's called an "edge case".

Tsk. Gravey they wouldn't have "super" in the title if it wasn't a common occurrence, duh. ;-)

Quite. I don't mean to understate the seriousness of global warming, but it's probably safe to forgo considering superstorms when making your decision about which gaming console to purchase this year.

To clarify, we had to run the generator at least 2x a day (3 hrs in morning and 3 hrs at night) to keep the food frozen, house warm and generate hot water.

The kids were going stir crazy since the schools were closed. The generator put out enough power that I gave my kids and hour each for gaming. One played the Wii and the other the Xbox. At night, we charged the phones and watched Blu-Rays & DVD's on said TV.

Don't blame me when the zombie apocalypse occurs. The Xbone will be useless.

But considering, there haven't been any cases of rage filled monkeys, I preordered one anyway.

And I didn't in any way mean to make light of your situation PRG. That must have been really rough for your family, especially the children. But that is exceedingly nice of you to allow your children to get in some gaming during such a crazy time. I'm glad all worked out for ya!

That being said, when the zombies do come (and they will) I don't think games would be MY particular priority. HOWEVER, given the sharp pointy edges of both the X-ONE and PS4, they could double as objects to bludgeon the zombies to death (again). Thus making them useful once more.

First world problems and first world solutions for the win!

Thin_J wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

Stuff about not having power

Do you have a cell phone with a data plan? Turn on the Wifi hotspot, get the Xbox online long enough for it to dial home and be cool, and play away.

I've seen it done multiple times for title updates with 360's that had different versions of title updates for the same game.

Unfortunately, there was no service in my area since the towers were damaged.

The Conformist wrote:

And I didn't in any way mean to make light of your situation PRG.

I wouldn't be writing about zombies if I were offended.

Okay, on to seriousness.

PRG013 wrote:
Thin_J wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

Stuff about not having power

Do you have a cell phone with a data plan? Turn on the Wifi hotspot, get the Xbox online long enough for it to dial home and be cool, and play away.

I've seen it done multiple times for title updates with 360's that had different versions of title updates for the same game.

Unfortunately, there was no service in my area since the towers were damaged.

Not all phones can turn into a wifi hotspot. Nor do all carriers support that (I think AT&T requires an additional charge to tether, or they at least used to).

So... Anyone buying a Xbox One?

PRG013 wrote:
Thin_J wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

Stuff about not having power

Do you have a cell phone with a data plan? Turn on the Wifi hotspot, get the Xbox online long enough for it to dial home and be cool, and play away.

I've seen it done multiple times for title updates with 360's that had different versions of title updates for the same game.

Unfortunately, there was no service in my area since the towers were damaged.

Well phooey.

shoptroll wrote:

Not all phones can turn into a wifi hotspot. Nor do all carriers support that (I think AT&T requires an additional charge to tether, or they at least used to).

Most of them charge for it, actually, though there's usually ways around it. That said If you're that serious about playing a videogame when you have no power, maybe the charge for tethering/hotspot features probably isn't a big deal...

When I was young and we had no power the generator got used for the freezer and refrigerator.

I read a book.

Definitely first world problems

PRG013 wrote:

So... Anyone buying a Xbox One?

Possibly?

Have both preordered. Friends are all leaning Xbox, so it's kind of in the lead at the moment, but could go either way.

I have one pre-ordered, but I will probably cancel it and wait for more games to come online. There are still plenty of new games in the 360 pipeline that I want to play.

Thin_J wrote:
PRG013 wrote:

So... Anyone buying a Xbox One?

Possibly?

Have both preordered. Friends are all leaning Xbox, so it's kind of in the lead at the moment, but could go either way.

I really tried to like the PS3. The plastic feeling controller and digital trigger really turned me off from even looking at the PS4. I loved my original Playstation so much that it is sitting in my office (spare bedroom with no bed in it) at home just incase I want to hook it up and play some Blast Chamber. It's been there since 1999 (on the shelf, waiting to be played).

I preordered a Day One Xbox, but I am uncertain if I can actually spare the $500.00. Real life (um, wife) gets in the way.

Jayhawker wrote:

I have one pre-ordered, but I will probably cancel it and wait for more games to come online. There are still plenty of new games in the 360 pipeline that I want to play.

I was thinking about that today. I have one pre-ordered, but will 8-90% keep it., but right now the release line-up isn't that strong/confirmed. Without a solid 2-3 games I don't really have any incentive to order. Ryse looks fun(which is confirmed day one), but not 60$ fun. If Titanfall is day one, that will lock down my purchase.

MS has a super strong 360 line-up for fall, and they are currently competing with the 360 for my XBO dollars.