Post a picture, argue with me!

Demosthenes wrote:
I agree, which then leads to the question: who are we protecting them from?

I would argue we are protecting our own economic interests abroad... protecting them is just a byproduct of that.

From what threat?

Aetius wrote:

From what threat?

Bad earnings reports for defense contractors.

OG_slinger wrote:
Aetius wrote:

From what threat?

Bad earnings reports for defense contractors.

From the American people sh*tting their pants over an extra $0.50 at the pump while we would still have cheaper gas prices than most of the world or electronics rising 5%in price during the holiday season.

Japan isn't spending on military because it's not supposed to. Demilitarizing Japan is part of the fallout of WW2. Furthermore, Japan looks up a LOT to the US. If the US gave them an excuse to ramp up their military, I have little doubt that they would do so, and they will NOT be using that military defensively.

LarryC wrote:

Japan isn't spending on military because it's not supposed to. Demilitarizing Japan is part of the fallout of WW2. Furthermore, Japan looks up a LOT to the US. If the US gave them an excuse to ramp up their military, I have little doubt that they would do so, and they will NOT be using that military defensively.

Drop a few fake bombs full of dating sims though and the 18-25 crowd would be shut in for a month.

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(Probably not photoshopped.)

So, I am struggling with 5 from a pure biblical textual standpoint. And I am struggling with 7 from a "why does that make Darwin wrong?" standpoint? In all my reading into Satan's work, known as the many branches of archaeology, anthropology, and a whole bunch of things I cannot spell correctly, I cannot recall the sharp teeth=carnivore statement.

That is why they marked it false, correctly.

NathanialG wrote:

That is why they marked it false, correctly.

Well, my question is more. Do creationists think that the various animal disciplines of science conclude that sharp teeth in a skeleton means carnivorous behavior is assumed? IE, that the only reason we might conclude that Velociraptors are carnivorous, are the nasty bad pointy teeth?

The rule of thumb floating around in the back of my head is "sharp teeth are for ripping and tearing, and are what carnivores have; flat teeth are for grinding, and are what herbivores have; omnivores have both".

For example, a page from the Oakland Zoo.

Oh, and page 2 of the quiz (from the Snopes page):
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KingGorilla wrote:

So, I am struggling with 5 from a pure biblical textual standpoint.

Genesis 1:29 and 1:30 wrote:

Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

Seems everything was vegan for a while.

ETA: Then for the teeth issue if everything was vegan yet dinosaurs had sharp teeth... so they have to conclude that sharp teeth != meat eating.

KingGorilla wrote:

So, I am struggling with 5 from a pure biblical textual standpoint.

I thought Eve eating a plant got us in this whole mess...

But man was also to have dominion over the birds, fish, beasts, etc. And if Eden was heaven on earth, there must have been bacon. If Adam wasn't eating them, my mind goes to another place; and that explains why the snake was such an asshole to man.

That story says that the video tells kids to tell anyone who says that the universe is more than 6,000 years old to use the rebuttal "Were you there?"

...so why should I believe you that the earth is 6,000 years old, were YOU there? Yay for advocating children use a logical fallacy to argue a point. *rolls eyes* That ALMOST annoys me more than teaching biblical mythology as a substitute for science. No wonder half my product calls are "GMO is out to kill us, changing plants and animals is evil!" and people get mad when I tell them we've been changing plants and animals through husbandry and selective breeding for millenia (thus why carrots are orange, and not purple, as the gods originall intended... in fact, I should tell people about that and tell them every time they eat an orange carrot they are eating a vegetable that is defying god's purpose :P).

EDIT: Obviously all of these meat eaters today having pointy teeth is not indicative of what pointy teeth are for. That would be logical and would have been determined by scientists... which means it is WRONG!

What kind of school would have that as a quiz for a science class? Looking at that photo just makes me want to cry.

complexmath wrote:

What kind of school would have that as a quiz for a science class? Looking at that photo just makes me want to cry.

What makes it even more tragically hilarious and awful is that if that classroom had tried to teach creation myths of like the Hindus, that organization who made that video indoctrinating kids into believing biblical stuff instead of real science would be up at arms about 'how dare you teach that religious stuff to my kids when our family doesn't practice Hinduism?'

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Demosthenes wrote:

That story says that the video tells kids to tell anyone who says that the universe is more than 6,000 years old to use the rebuttal "Were you there?"

...so why should I believe you that the earth is 6,000 years old, were YOU there?

That was my first thought.

I was going to find a pic of a Final Fantasy behemoth, but I only typed "behemoth" into google image search, and I discovered there is a band dubbed Behemoth, and they look like this:
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So while Katy's pic is indeed appalling, for me, it led to a good place.

I wonder what things of wonder they sing about?

I'm sure it must be that of treasure, adventure, ladies and wistful walks on the shore.

Horses and puppies, trees and streams, this is the subject of their songs.

They sing of love and loss, friends and family, all the things that matter.

KingGorilla wrote:

But man was also to have dominion over the birds, fish, beasts, etc. And if Eden was heaven on earth, there must have been bacon. If Adam wasn't eating them, my mind goes to another place; and that explains why the snake was such an asshole to man.

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groan wrote:

I wonder what things of wonder they sing about?

I'm sure it must be that of treasure, adventure, ladies and wistful walks on the shore.

Horses and puppies, trees and streams, this is the subject of their songs.

They sing of love and loss, friends and family, all the things that matter.

And now I have a picture to use for my D&D campaign meeting the bad guys.

complexmath wrote:

What kind of school would have that as a quiz for a science class? Looking at that photo just makes me want to cry.

A public or charter school in Louisiana? Or Tennessee. Or Kansas. Or Texas. Or Minnesota. Or New Mexico. Or Missouri. Or Alabama. Or South Carolina.

Seriously, though. Every year state legislatures repeatedly cough up proposed laws to inject creationism into schools. And it's just gotten worse with the expansion of charter schools.

Here's a copy of the Page 2 of that quiz, since Snopes doesn't like hotlinking:

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I'm having problems with the worksheet also containing...

...a grammatical error (Question 15. The average size of a dinosaur was a sheep. Is sheep some weird unit of measurement I don't know about?)

...redundancy in questions 16 and 17 which basically have the same answer, the only thing added for 17 is that fossils are made of dead things before you go back to the flood.

Also, I thought fossils were tricks put there by the devil to confuse us? Or did that fall by the wayside with creationists for a different bullsh*t reason fossils exist sometime in the last decade?

complexmath wrote:

What kind of school would have that as a quiz for a science class? Looking at that photo just makes me want to cry.

Well if it is indeed a ditto from Answers in Genesis, or based off of their video, these are typically designed for home school parents who want to teach the young earth creationism to their kids.

I am quite curious as to how the kids taught from these curriculum will cope with required college science credits.

complexmath wrote:

What kind of school would have that as a quiz for a science class? Looking at that photo just makes me want to cry.

snopes[/url]]The image was of the purported quiz publicized in a post to Reddit's r/atheism forum, made by a user who maintained that it was a real quiz given at a private religious school in South Carolina, and that he was shown the quiz by the student's parent and took a picture of it with his iPhone.

KingGorilla wrote:

I am quite curious as to how the kids taught from these curriculum will cope with required college science credits.

Depends on the college.

sometimesdee wrote:
KingGorilla wrote:

I am quite curious as to how the kids taught from these curriculum will cope with required college science credits.

Depends on the college.

BJ University isn't even accredited as a college is it?

Demosthenes wrote:
sometimesdee wrote:
KingGorilla wrote:

I am quite curious as to how the kids taught from these curriculum will cope with required college science credits.

Depends on the college.

BJ University isn't even accredited as a college is it?

And the award for most ironically initialed higher learning institution goes to..

Demosthenes wrote:
sometimesdee wrote:
KingGorilla wrote:

I am quite curious as to how the kids taught from these curriculum will cope with required college science credits.

Depends on the college.

BJ University isn't even accredited as a college is it?

It is until at least 2021.

And don't forget Regent University, Pat Robertson's attempt at higher education and the source for way too many Bush era appointees to the Department of Justice and other government agencies.