Walking Dead (No Comics! No Spoilers Beyond What's Aired)!

There's all that auburn hair dye just laying around abandoned drug stores.

LockAndLoad wrote:

Strange question but did anyone else notice how clean and well groomed everyone looked this past episode? Daryl in particular looked like every strand of hair had been professionally, meticulously styled. My wife noticed it and then I couldn't help not seeing it.

Not really but I always notice how white everyones teeth is.

If you'll excuse the invitation of comic lore, does anyone go medieval knight's suit of armour in the Walking Dead universe?
I've come to the conclusion that it would work well against the biters, except the point is, the threat is the people. Especially this season.

Did I miss a huge gap between Darryl finding his brother chomping, and him turning up back at the prison? Or was there some discontinuity there? It feels like I skipped an episode.

Ghostship wrote:

If you'll excuse the invitation of comic lore, does anyone go medieval knight's suit of armour in the Walking Dead universe?
I've come to the conclusion that it would work well against the biters, except the point is, the threat is the people. Especially this season.

Did I miss a huge gap between Darryl finding his brother chomping, and him turning up back at the prison? Or was there some discontinuity there? It feels like I skipped an episode.

Of all the Walking Dead threads, this has to be the most blatantly anti comics thread of them all.

Try this one. It gets less attention, but it designed specifically for folks that read the comics and watch the show.

Ghostship wrote:

Did I miss a huge gap between Darryl finding his brother chomping, and him turning up back at the prison? Or was there some discontinuity there? It feels like I skipped an episode.

There's not a 1:1 correlation between the gaps of the shows. It was the normal show arrived/show leaving tv editing.

ranalin wrote:
Ghostship wrote:

Did I miss a huge gap between Darryl finding his brother chomping, and him turning up back at the prison? Or was there some discontinuity there? It feels like I skipped an episode.

There's not a 1:1 correlation between the gaps of the shows. It was the normal show arrived/show leaving tv editing.

Yeah, I felt like they rushed the epilogue to that story. There was a very short bit with Daryl talking to Carol about Merl. Too short. They even questioned on The Talking Dead if the group even knew about Merl's sacrifice. Lazy storytelling. Plus, they spent way too much time with The Governor, and really dragged out the scenes with Andrea and Milton.

I like how it ended. I really liked Rick's arc (circle?) this season and where they're going with Carl. I thought the finale was just ok though. Not great. Not terrible. Just... good.

I feel like the, reach for the key, reach for the whatever, knife, gun, during a fight scene, or like with Andrea, is the cheapest suspense builder possible. It's just frustrating to watch. Sometimes I just wish they'd do a silent movie text screen for five seconds and get it out of the way. "Will she pick up the pliers in time?" then just cut to her using them.

I can't stand those.

All in all I was disappointed with the last three episodes.

I'm not sure how much did budgetary restraints play into the story we were told; but I think we had two very passive episodes that were meant to build up to a very action packed season finale that was not action packed at all.

The assault on the outside of the prison was a great start, the use of smoke and mirrors (and by smoke I mean flash bangs and by mirrors I mean walkers) was a great idea, but that's where the episode slips, falls and crawls slowly to the end;

- I don't think it was properly explained how Rick and the gang knew that thanks to Merle's sacrifice; the Governor's strike force was made up mostly of civilians taking up guns for the first time.

- Otherwise, "let's scare them with flash bangs and a few walkers" does not sound like a great strategy. Can you imagine Merle, Daryl, Shane, Rick, T-Bone, Michone, Andrea or even Carl running away scared because of that?

- Maggie and Glenn kept missing their shots so much I actually questioned if they were using blanks in order to keep scaring the civilians off without actually trying to hurt anyone. Again, maybe it was due to budget limits, but I did not see dust jump off the ground (bullets hit the turf) or sparks off any vehicles (bullets hit the car).

- I did not see anyone besides Maggie and Glenn shoot at the Governor's forces; did I miss that? Because if I didn't, Rick setup two people with riot gear (not much of a bullet stopper) vs an army of at least 20 armed people.

- I agree about the cliché tension of Andrea trying to get the pliers; she was trying to cut through handcuffs. I've never cut handcuffs, so maybe it is a 3 second effort; but I think dropping the pliers to "lose time" was frustrating, not a smart way to get the audience tense. Although Milton fading away, telling Andrea to hurry was pretty cool.

What I really liked was Carl's take on killing the kid.

I know I'm sounding like a broken record with my obsession of the new world order; but I think there is a LOT to take from Carl's decision of killing that kid and how he justified it later to Rick.

Rick was brought up in a world with much less violence; lower stakes and civility. As a trained police officer, you ask questions first, shoot second.

Carl, because he's younger and more impressionable, has adapted into this new world.

I honestly believe Carl didn't kill the kid with the rifle because he was taking too long to drop the weapon; Carl is very cold and matter-of-fact when he confronts Rick; if you don't kill a threat now, it will come back and kill you later. He gives enough examples to make Rick stop cold in his tracks. Carl is now the new Shane.

Three characters show the polarity of social behavior now;
- Carl/Shane needs to take extreme measures to ensure safety; kill the threat when you can, before it becomes a threat again

- Rick will only kill when the threat is no longer containable; usually resulting in the loss of team members and/or dead wife.

- Andrea died because she insisted on taking a moderate, pacifist approach to conflict resolution. Everyone, including the Governor himself, made perfectly clear there was no way to diffuse this situation. The show has made it pretty clear, what was a "reasonable way to work things out before" will get you killed now.

Bring on the 4th season!!!
But until then, dragons and winter and (hopefully) people slapping Joffrey.

I think Carl had pretty good reason to shoot the guy. They told him to drop the shotgun, he didn't drop it. Instead he kept leaning closer and closer with it. To me, the guy was up to something.

Hobbes2099 wrote:

..But until then, dragons and winter and (hopefully) people slapping Joffrey.

Reading clash of Kings now, so I can watch seasons 2 & perhaps 3.

Spoiler:

I just got to the second scene of slapping Joffrey silly. I hope it's in the show.

It gave me that kick to finish the book and choose reading over other TV, or games for my leisure time.

...don't tell me.

End of Season 3 Group Photo
IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/DWRRmVJ.jpg)

Is the woman behind Carl the "Lady Who Lived"? If she's in the group photo, maybe she becomes an important character?

She could be Sherly from the comics. Still not sure if that whole "her blood is immune to walker bites" makes sense in this universe. I really hope they don't put it in the show; made no sense at all IMHO.

Spoiler:

One day late April Fools, there's no Sharyl, blood or walker immunity.

That is a particularly cruel one, in that nobody is going to click spoilers in this thread.

Heh. Hobbes wins this thread.

Cruel joke Hobbes! I almost lost it.

Gaald wrote:

Cruel joke Hobbes! I almost lost it.

I was dreading a PM from you going all ballistic.
I had thought it up the day before, actual April Fool's, but stupid work had me swamped.

Sorry guys, Ill keep my trolling to a zero from now on.

besides, the conversation in this thread is way more entertaining than the other two.

I guess I wasn't going to escape April Fools completely unscathed. Even if it was a day late. LOL

Don't feel bad, Hobbes, I thought it was funny. (and yes, I totally bought, I'm so gullible)

Holy cow, Rick has an accent. I didn't know who the actor was, or where he was from.

Season 4 preview trailer - that qualifies as spoilers here; however, there is nothing but footage from season three, and just everyone saying "It's going to be bigger" "This character is becomeing a [man] [woman] [head of lettuce]"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXWD...

Hey Rick, thanks for throwing all of our food away when just driving around in a truck would have been enough to lure the walkers away.

Actually I think he got rid of the pigs cause the one hog died of sickness and there was no way to tell if the others were infected. So he used them to keep the walkers off the fences for a while. That's why he was burning the pig pen in the later scene, and didn't want to his son to help.

They are not pulling any punches so far this season. It's one gut punch right after another. I was kind of shocked at how fast those two others up and died. It's a bit suspicious for one, and I also wonder if maybe it has to do with the water?

Gaald wrote:

Actually I think he got rid of the pigs cause the one hog died of sickness and there was no way to tell if the others were infected. So he used them to keep the walkers off the fences for a while. That's why he was burning the pig pen in the later scene, and didn't want to his son to help.

Yeah, they weren't sure if the pigs got them sick, or they got Violet sick, but considering Rick also saw that sick boar when he met the crazy lady, I don't blame him for not wanting to chance it.

Interesting episode.
I thought Rick was out of line.
Carol should have been judged by her peers, and only then banished.

Whatever happened to the herd? That was too big to ignore and hope it doesn't head for the prison.

They kept moving to outrun the herd. They talked about them loosing their trail from being out of sight for so long.

I agree with Hobbes, bad move on Rick's part. And those poor kids...

I think Rick made the right choice. He specifically said he couldn't allow her to be around his children. That to me would be a defining characteristic in the apocalypse.

There was no good reason to kill those two when they were already isolated from the community. She had enough power to argue for it anyways.

If Rick killed her, or let her come back... that would have been wrong. Killing her for doing what she thought was right is not ok in this case. Letting her come back for trial would have split the group and hurt moral much more than this already will.

I don't think Ty would have let it even come to a trail, which would have only made the situation worse. While I'm not really willing to ascribe Right or Wrong on the sitch, I'd say it felt the least bad. If she's gone, though, that's a pretty daring move for the show--Carol had become a compelling character, and, uh, let's say on this show that's a very limited resource.

I like to think, when Rick was looking for spare gas, he kept thinking "Reeeally regretting that symbolic burning right now."

I like to think, when Rick was looking for spare gas, he kept thinking "Reeeally regretting that symbolic burning right now."

If you are talking about the pig pen, that wasn't symbolic that was about trying to control the spread of the disease. They have no idea how this thing spreads and with one or more of those pigs sick who knows what was contaminated same with the food in that cell block, which is partially why Rick and Carol went out.

I think Rick isn't even sure if what he did was right. That whole scene with him driving away at the end he kept looking back. I doubt this is the last we have seen of Carol. What's the saying? Time and distance something something?

I also think that massive heard of walkers is something that will come up again. I have a feeling that group isn't going to be staying at the prison for much longer no matter how much they might want to.

I've really been enjoying this season so far.

Gaald wrote:

If you are talking about the pig pen, that wasn't symbolic that was about trying to control the spread of the disease.

At the same time, he all but said "And thus for the pastoralist fantasy into which I retreated as well!" There's text, then subtext.

This season continues to deliver. Probably my favorite season since season 1.