Holy S**t! Pope resigns

dejanzie wrote:

Check, thanks for the feedback.

Just getting back here and saw your question, Dejanzie. Please excuse me if I caused any confusion. One of the benefits (I'll call it a benefit) of having a confusing language is that things can be deliberately misread, and sometimes lend themselves easily to that. I simultaneously knew your intent and saw how the phrase could be misread because I'm a sick person. It was an interesting contrast.

LouZiffer wrote:

... saw how the phrase could be misread because I'm a sick person.

Oh no! I hope you feel better soon!

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Rezzy wrote:
LouZiffer wrote:

... saw how the phrase could be misread because I'm a sick person.

Oh no! I hope you feel better soon!

It's really dusty in here all of a sudden. I love you guys!

We have white smoke, but no word on who the new Pope is.

WizKid wrote:

We have white smoke, but no word on who the new Pope is.

Per twitter, they're bringing back Benedict as Pope Classic.

Tanglebones wrote:
WizKid wrote:

We have white smoke, but no word on who the new Pope is.

Per twitter, they're bringing back Benedict as Pope Classic.

After completely skipping over New Pope(tm)

Would think make any possible anti-popes (fingers crossed!) Pepsi, or Tab?

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Would think make any possible anti-popes (fingers crossed!) Pepsi, or Tab?

Crystal Popesi.

Tanglebones wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Would think make any possible anti-popes (fingers crossed!) Pepsi, or Tab?

Crystal Popesi.

RC

lol. The Car Talk folks posted on their Facebook page a picture of the white smoke coming out of the conclave chimney with the note "leaky head gasket".

Pope Francis.... Underwood?

Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina was elected pope on Wednesday to lead the Roman Catholic Church

Pope Frank to his friends.

So who is this dude? What's his background? He wasn't on the "contenders" list that was floating about.

Jesuit, affirms church teaching on abortion, contraception, gay marriage. One of Latin America's most conservative cardinals. Meet the new pope, same as the old pope. One of John Paul II and Benedict's cadre.

Nevin73 wrote:

So who is this dude? What's his background? He wasn't on the "contenders" list that was floating about.

He was #2 in votes in the last election.

Apparently he's archconservative, but very warm and approachable. He campaigned vigorously against the Argentine government's gay marriage bill (which passed) and gay adoption. He may or may not have been involved in kidnappings during the 1976 junta.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Jesuit, affirms church teaching on abortion, contraception, gay marriage. One of Latin America's most conservative cardinals. Meet the new pope, same as the old pope. One of John Paul II and Benedict's cadre.

All of which was pretty much guaranteed, whichever cardinal was chosen.

When I heard of Pope Francis, this is the first image that came into my mind:

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Gremlin wrote:

All of which was pretty much guaranteed, whichever cardinal was chosen.

Exactly.

There was a great write up on him in the NCR:
http://ncronline.org//blogs/ncr-toda...

I was hoping for a dude with some real reformer credentials, but realistically a conservative Jesuit from Latin America is probably the best we were going to get.

I think it's neat he's a Jesuit. They're pretty cool in my book

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Jesuit, affirms church teaching on abortion, contraception, gay marriage. One of Latin America's most conservative cardinals. Meet the new pope, same as the old pope. One of John Paul II and Benedict's cadre.

Thank goodness for Obamacare because I'm going to need treatment for this whiplash.

I don't know any details about this guy in particular, but "Latin American Jesuits" and "JP II & B's cadre" don't exactly go together:

Originally minted in Latin America in the 1960s, liberation theology is a controversial current of religious thought that has, in less than two decades, gained widespread currency. To many, it is the duty of Christians to support the rights of the poor and oppressed. But among its extreme proponents, liberation theology has been used as an apologia for revolutionary upheaval in the Third World that strives to link the imperatives of Christian charity with the dictates of Marxist class struggle.

What distinguishes liberation theology from the mainstream of church thinking is its strong emphasis on social change in the process of spiritual improvement. As Father Jon Sobrino, a Jesuit liberation thinker living in El Salvador, puts it, the aim of liberation theology in Latin America is to "give a new form to a now wretched reality." In analyzing that social reality, some liberation theologians make heavy use of left-wing social science, and in that sense, writes Sobrino, "the influence of Marx on the conception of theological understanding is evident."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...

Now, I don't know where this guy fits into all that, but I feel like we're seriously jumping to conclusions here. Let me play around with Google and see what I can dig up.

Bergoglio was one of the few Latin American Jesuits to push back against liberation theology.

And then there's this business:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...

The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment
CheezePavilion wrote:

Now, I don't know where this guy fits into all that, but I feel like we're seriously jumping to conclusions here. Let me play around with Google and see what I can dig up.

Jumping to conclusions? Seems like people are reading about the man, not the country.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
CheezePavilion wrote:

Now, I don't know where this guy fits into all that, but I feel like we're seriously jumping to conclusions here. Let me play around with Google and see what I can dig up.

Jumping to conclusions? Seems like people are reading about the man, not the country.

I'll PM you.

Hitler Youth? Collaborator with fascist juntas? You gotta be a bad motherf*cker to get patched in as a 1%er pontiff these days.

One can imagine the necare meretricio, the "killing of a hooker," to be part of the ritual of enpopification.

H.P. Lovesauce wrote:

Hitler Youth? Collaborator with fascist juntas? You gotta be a bad motherf*cker to get patched in as a 1%er pontiff these days.

One can imagine the necare meretricio, the "killing of a hooker," to be part of the ritual of enpopification.

My former history professor posted this on Facebook today:
My favorite "papal story" was when some Mediaeval Holy Roman Emperor (I forget which) went to war with the Pope, defeated, captured, and executed him. Then had the prostitutes of Rome elect a 17 year-old mentally defective boy as the new Pope.
Now THAT was a papal election.

NathanialG wrote:

My former history professor posted this on Facebook today:
My favorite "papal story" was when some Mediaeval Holy Roman Emperor (I forget which) went to war with the Pope, defeated, captured, and executed him. Then had the prostitutes of Rome elect a 17 year-old mentally defective boy as the new Pope.
Now THAT was a papal election.

You ever feel like suddenly your life has a purpose?

NathanialG wrote:

My former history professor posted this on Facebook today:
My favorite "papal story" was when some Mediaeval Holy Roman Emperor (I forget which) went to war with the Pope, defeated, captured, and executed him. Then had the prostitutes of Rome elect a 17 year-old mentally defective boy as the new Pope.
Now THAT was a papal election.

DING! Pope is done!

[size=1]I was already going to hell, so making jokes like that have zero net effect on my mortal soul[/size]