3DS Catch-all

Suikoden 1+2 was released as a package on PSP in Japan and you can still find it on shelves easily enough. Pity it was never localised. Hopefully Konami is doing a HD remake with a fresh localisation and that's the reason why they're holding 2 back. Otherwise I have no idea.

I had a copy of Suikoden II that I sold back in 2001 or so for about $100. At the time, I figured its value had peaked. Oh well, it was a used copy so I doubt it'd be worth that much more anyway. Great game though.

By way of comparison, I sold a copy of Final Fantasy Tactics (remember, that game used to be rare too?) for about $80. That seems like a score now. =)

And if that wasn't enough, Project X Zone is getting localized. It will retain the original Japanese voice work and will not be dubbed, which doesn't really matter as the audience for that game is likely the sort that prefers anime subtitled anyway.

It is also coming to Europe.

Oh wow.

YES!!

Day 1 Perch.

EDIT: Given my history with fighting games, it is mandatory that I create a group made up of Dante, Jill Valentine, and Zero, then another made up of Jin Kazama, Ryu, and Alisa Bosconovitch. That should cover my bases.

EDIT 2: LOL, I never noticed before, but in that trailer Ryu's super is his classic FADC cancel from SF4, made ever so famous by Daigo Umehara. Talk about becoming part of the history books.

Bizarrely, I sold my Suikodens, both 1 and 2, just yesterday. I sold 15 PS1 games in all, and got enough for the laptop I wanted. The Suikodens (PAL, boxed etc) and the limited edition Symphony Of The Night with art cards and sound track accounted for just over £300 of the total.

That's neat. I still have my Suikoden 2 but haven't really considered selling it. All the ebay and shipping stuff just seems like a hassle.

That was the great thing. I spent ages mucking about online checking prices, taking photos and so on. Then, on whim, I walked into the indie game shop in the tiny town nearest to my village, and he gave me more than I would have got on eBay. While he was totting it up, his lovely girlfriend gave me coffee and biscuits and chatted to me about the golden days of the SNES!

I'm really going to miss that pile of games, though.

Anyhoo, enough derailing from me.

ahrezmendi wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:
ahrezmendi wrote:
SixteenBlue wrote:

Played the first battle in the FE demo. Turned it off afterwards because I was already sold. Can't afford to buy it when it drops but I think it moved to the top of my list when I can.

Don't wait too long. I just browsed Amazon yesterday, and all the other FE games are $60 minimum now. Who knew, good games go up in value over time. ;)

I'm sitting on a copy of Radiant Dawn, waiting for it to get to Suikoden II status. It's gonna happen. Okamiden, too.

A few days ago I might have disagreed, but Path of Radiance is already $180, so $400 for that or Radiant Dawn in 5 or 6 years might not be out of the question.

Of course, this assumes Nintendo doesn't release a digital option, that would ruin the market.

Fire Emblem: Awakening will be available as a day one eShop purchase. So unless you're allergic to digital games on the 3DS, I wouldn't stress availability. Ditto for Etrian Odyssey IV.

No idea about previous Fire Emblem games. I expect they'll shop up as Virtual Console games on the Wii U, but nothing is confirmed there yet.

I'm slightly allergic. I've bought a couple of games digitally, but don't yet trust Nintendo completely to keep this available to me should something go wrong with my system. Also, how big is a game like Fire Emblem? Not in blocks, but in MB. I already have. Few games and I'm not sure my card can hold it.

I'm very allergic. Every account I've read of people trying to transfer digital titles between Nintendo systems has been fraught with peril. If you don't do things in precisely the right order, you wind up losing your licenses and Nintendo's response to this is "well, don't that just suck for you". I'm not willing to buy anything digital from Nintendo until they have a better system for this, it's completely unacceptable to have this happening in 2013.

ahrezmendi wrote:

I'm very allergic. Every account I've read of people trying to transfer digital titles between Nintendo systems has been fraught with peril. If you don't do things in precisely the right order, you wind up losing your licenses and Nintendo's response to this is "well, don't that just suck for you". I'm not willing to buy anything digital from Nintendo until they have a better system for this, it's completely unacceptable to have this happening in 2013.

Huh? It was straightforward when I did it.... any DS games you purchased get transferred, and any 3DS eShop games have to be re-downloaded. The instructions/process are almost idiot-proof too.

AndrewA wrote:
ahrezmendi wrote:

I'm very allergic. Every account I've read of people trying to transfer digital titles between Nintendo systems has been fraught with peril. If you don't do things in precisely the right order, you wind up losing your licenses and Nintendo's response to this is "well, don't that just suck for you". I'm not willing to buy anything digital from Nintendo until they have a better system for this, it's completely unacceptable to have this happening in 2013.

Huh? It was straightforward when I did it.... any DS games you purchased get transferred, and any 3DS eShop games have to be re-downloaded. The instructions/process are almost idiot-proof too.

If my 3DS got stolen tomorrow I'd have to re-purchase every game I bought for it on the eShop. That's ridiculous.

I'm talking about stuff like this, which causes people to either have to pay more money, or lose their licenses. Nintendo's license model for digital purchases is born out of the mesozoic era of digital content. It's absurd that in an age where Steam, XBL, and PSN handle this invisibly you should have to worry about SD cards, licenses stored on a system, and other BS from Nintendo.

Thankfully most of this stuff can still be bought on cartridges, so I can use those and if it works for you then you can buy digitally. It won't stop either of us from enjoying the awesomeness that is Fire Emblem.

Etrian Odyssey IV will be getting a demo on February 7th.

DSGamer wrote:
AndrewA wrote:
ahrezmendi wrote:

I'm very allergic. Every account I've read of people trying to transfer digital titles between Nintendo systems has been fraught with peril. If you don't do things in precisely the right order, you wind up losing your licenses and Nintendo's response to this is "well, don't that just suck for you". I'm not willing to buy anything digital from Nintendo until they have a better system for this, it's completely unacceptable to have this happening in 2013.

Huh? It was straightforward when I did it.... any DS games you purchased get transferred, and any 3DS eShop games have to be re-downloaded. The instructions/process are almost idiot-proof too.

If my 3DS got stolen tomorrow I'd have to re-purchase every game I bought for it on the eShop. That's ridiculous.

Ah.... well, I thought that we were talking about transferring between 3DS systems - if you don't have a source system to go off of then yes, it's a problem.

That's the entire point though, this stuff shouldn't be bound to the system, it should be bound to an account that is off in the cloud. If my 360 were to get stolen, all I have to do is recover my account on a brand new 360 and I can re-download everything I ever purchased. Same with Steam and PSN.

My point also included the system-to-system transfer, which has problems like the one I linked above, but that's more a symptom of the underlying issue that the purchase licenses are stored on the system itself. This is a solved problem, and it blows my mind that Nintendo refuses to do it the right way.

They don't refuse, in fact they've said that feature is coming.

Edit: It's also getting a little tiring reading posts like that. It's a known issue, and Nintendo has addressed it. It doesn't need to be said every single time purchasing an online game comes up.

Oh, well that's good news. I didn't know they were addressing the problem.

I'm going to leave the second comment alone.

A unified account system for the 3DS and Wii U will be rolled out later this year. It was supposed to be rolled out at the time the Wii U launched but was delayed on the 3DS side.

ahrezmendi wrote:

Oh, well that's good news. I didn't know they were addressing the problem.

I'm going to leave the second comment alone.

Yeah sorry. That wasn't directed at you or any one particular person, and obviously if you didn't know they were addressing it, it would be worth bringing up. It's just been a repeated topic of discussion lately.

In good news, I recently discovered that, while Monster Hunter on the 3DS won't have online play, you'll still be able to co-op locally. Which means I'll definitely have it ready for PAX East.

It's nice that they're rolling out a proper system at some unspecified point in the future, but in the meantime the concerns regarding digital purchases of games on Nintendo systems are completely valid and worth keeping in mind.

It hasn't stopped me from picking up the odd eShop exclusive title here or there (some of which are absolutely outstanding), but I am unwilling to pick up full-priced retail games digitally on Nintendo machines until their account system goes live and is proven to work effectively.

Hence why I have Etrian Odyssey IV preordered since it was first listed.

SixteenBlue wrote:
ahrezmendi wrote:

Oh, well that's good news. I didn't know they were addressing the problem.

I'm going to leave the second comment alone.

Yeah sorry. That wasn't directed at you or any one particular person, and obviously if you didn't know they were addressing it, it would be worth bringing up. It's just been a repeated topic of discussion lately.

There is context here, though. Someone says, "it should be no problem to purchase Fire Emblem unless you're allergic to online purchases". Some of us explain why "allergic" is a silly pejorative when there are real and valid concerns about Nintendo's eShop.

Or the word "allergic" was a joke. You're reading insult that wasn't intended.

I'm a little bummed that I didn't get Tales of the Abyss when it released. It's sold out everywhere, and second-hand copies are going for $40 and up. I can only hope Namco releases it digitally, because I doubt they'll do a second print.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Or the word "allergic" was a joke. You're reading insult that wasn't intended.

Shocking.

Atras wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

Or the word "allergic" was a joke. You're reading insult that wasn't intended.

Shocking.

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ClockworkHouse wrote:

Or the word "allergic" was a joke. You're reading insult that wasn't intended.

I don't think anyone took it as an insult. But I think you doth protest too much if you claim that "allergic" is just a joke. It's a loaded word that messages an opinion on people who choose to eschew the eShop. When you put it that way it's only fair for others to mention that there are valid reasons to avoid the eShop for now. I don't think anyone felt insulted. Just felt like that was biased information that wasn't entirely accurate. I honestly wouldn't care if it was an insult. But I do think it's worth giving people complete information in case they are making a decision on whether to purchase through the eShop.