NCAA Football 2012 Season Catch-All

Just model it like the other division and your done.

Here's a couple of issues I have with a playoff system:

1) No matter if you have 2, 4, 8, 16 or X many teams, you will still have teams that can make a case that they "deserved to get a shot".

2) Where is the money from the ticket sales to these games going? I wouldn't mind a share going to each player, considering that if you had a 16-team playoff, and 2 teams would eventually play in 4 different venues, that the families of these players would need to shell out a ton of cash just to come see their children/sibling play in these games. Maybe give each player a specified amount that will cover the average cost of room/board/transportation for up to 4 family members? They should do this even in the 4-team playoff they have proposed.

3) Bowl recognition? Does each game become a bowl, or are they regular games and do you have bowl week as normal? Maybe each game can be sponsored to help with the cost of point #2? For instance, Papa Johns could sponsor a playoff game, but it wouldn't be a bowl.

Kush15 wrote:

Here's a couple of issues I have with a playoff system:

1) No matter if you have 2, 4, 8, 16 or X many teams, you will still have teams that can make a case that they "deserved to get a shot".

2) Where is the money from the ticket sales to these games going? I wouldn't mind a share going to each player, considering that if you had a 16-team playoff, and 2 teams would eventually play in 4 different venues, that the families of these players would need to shell out a ton of cash just to come see their children/sibling play in these games. Maybe give each player a specified amount that will cover the average cost of room/board/transportation for up to 4 family members? They should do this even in the 4-team playoff they have proposed.

3) Bowl recognition? Does each game become a bowl, or are they regular games and do you have bowl week as normal? Maybe each game can be sponsored to help with the cost of point #2? For instance, Papa Johns could sponsor a playoff game, but it wouldn't be a bowl.

1) Other divisions and sports seem to do this without the sport blowing up. With 16 teams you are getting all the conference champs plus some of the 2nd place teams. With 16, there are zero undefeated teams missing out.

2) Kids will never see money because the NCAA doesn't want that one idiot that still believes the NCAA cares about the student-athlete ideal to lose faith.

3) There can still be plenty of bowls. The 1st few rounds don't even have to be bowl games. They can take the place of the non div I games that most teams pad their schedule with. I remember when most teams played 9 games before the championship games.

karmajay wrote:

2) Kids will never see money because the NCAA doesn't want that one idiot that still believes the NCAA cares about the student-athlete ideal to lose faith.

Let's be clear.

How the NCAA Has Used the Term “Student-Athlete” to Avoid Paying Workers Comp Liabilities

The National Law Review wrote:

Today, the term “student-athlete” is intended to carry with it the nobility of amateur athletics that the NCAA epitomizes.

Originally?

It was a good protection for keeping those carried off the field from suing the schools.

The source article linked in that post - "The Shame of College Sports" - is a great read, but I linked the TL;DR version first.

Additional analysis:

"Legal issues could arise from paying student-athletes"

ESPN wrote:

"If they are paid more than the cost of attendance," Matt Mitten, the director of the National Sports Law Institute at Marquette Law School, said of student-athletes, "they would likely be characterized as employees. And that has a number of implications."

If they are employees, some or all of the athletic scholarships they receive might be taxed as income.

If they are employees, they might unionize.

If they are employees, the university, as the employer, might be responsible for any tort -- a wrongful act resulting in an injury worthy of compensation -- committed by them.

It goes on, but you get the point. It's not really about keeping the faith. It's about money. It's always about money.

Oregon really does like to score quick.

Wow. DAT is amazing. Off we go. I need to get home.

K-State and Oregon is living up to be as good as I hoped. Best bowl game match-up of the season. Although the NCG should be pretty awesome, too.

Double posting!

Two goodgers enter....

Good luck Fed, Boogle!

Badferret wrote:

Two goodgers enter....

Good luck Fed, Boogle!

Hey man, you need to get right here. All I want to hear from you is SEC!

Or better yet:

Gig 'Em, Aggies! Beat the hell out OU!

For boogle?

Aggies strike first in typical Johnny Football fashion, then make an amazing goal-line stand when OU had 1st and Goal on the 1!

Good game so far, 14-13 at the half. Much more watchable than the last couple nights with the blowouts.

Well the Louisville game was perfectly watchable for me.

Penalty differential is pretty wild, and I hate to be the guy talking about the refs. 6/50 yds vs 1/5 yds.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Penalty differential is pretty wild, and I hate to be the guy talking about the refs. 6/50 yds vs 1/5 yds.

Looks like on the year, A&M is 79th in penalties with 56 yards a game, and Oklahoma is 41st, with 45 per game.

And you're up by 14 now. What are you complaining about?

We were up one at the time of the post - and I neglected to mention that the one penalty on OU was a late false start that actually gave them a 2nd 4th down and three points.

Anyway, up 14 feels much better than up 1.

Yar, looked like several missed calls in favor of OU in the first half.

Damn, I'm glad the Dawgs will miss A&M next year unless they meet in Atlanta.

They are scary good, Fed!

I like Georgia to win the East next year if your QB returns.

Who do y'all have from the West?

The horror...
Mike stoops, I hate you and your over reliance on man coverage.
Also thank god our center is graduating, watching him run block makes me physically sick.

Remind me again about how A&M lost to Florida?

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I like Georgia to win the East next year if your QB returns.

Who do y'all have from the West?

LSU in Athens in September and Auburn. In a strange twist, due to the SEC monkeying around with the schedules post expansion, the Auburn game will be at Auburn for the second straight year.

Dawgs have a tough Sept; At Clemson, home against S. Carolina and then end the month with LSU.

After that though, only Florida remains as a truly tough game.

AUs_TBirD wrote:

Remind me again about how A&M lost to Florida?

First game of our season after our week one game was hurricane delayed. Freshman QB. New coach. New schemes. New everything.

Johnny wasn't really Johnnying at that point - it takes a lot for coaches to say "Go ahead, run around like a chicken with your head cut off."

Still, we led the first half. Lost the game by a field goal. I'm sure we missed one or two, our freshman kicker has been really, really bad this year. We lost to LSU by 5, with two missed FGs.

Sounds like a tough schedule, ferret - the X factor is LSU. They could take a big step back with all the juniors leaving. How many junior starters have already declared for the draft? 5? Plus all the seniors, of course.

With Miles constantly sabotaging his own team, it may be tough for him to convince juniors that there is anything worth staying another year for.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
AUs_TBirD wrote:

Remind me again about how A&M lost to Florida?

First game of our season after our week one game was hurricane delayed. Freshman QB. New coach. New schemes. New everything.

Johnny wasn't really Johnnying at that point - it takes a lot for coaches to say "Go ahead, run around like a chicken with your head cut off."

Exactly. That's why a lot of people, including Florida players and coaches, were saying that Teddy Bridgewater was the best QB they had seen. It's not a slight against Johnny. It's just, Teddy in game 13 of his sophomore year with 20+ starts under his belt was a little more formidable then freshman Johnny in his first game.

Of course even on the season, Teddy leads Johnny in yards, completion %, passing TDs, has less INTs, and a better QB Rating.

But Johnny has all those rushing yards and TDs. A ridiculous amount of them actually. Very impressive.

You can't remove Johnny's rushing from the equation. His rushing, along with his escapability (both of which were on full display last night), are what make him Johnny Football.

Both teams and QBs are going to get some talk for next year during the offseason.

I'm not sure how we managed to beat A&M while watching that game yesterday. Now after wining the Heisman (which I STILL say should have gone to Te'o!) and his performance in the Cotton Bowl, this guy is going to be downright scary next year! When A&M first came into the SEC, I almost laughed thinking they just couldn't compete on a week to week basis. Now they are my early pick to win the SEC next year!

Badferret wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

I like Georgia to win the East next year if your QB returns.

Who do y'all have from the West?

LSU in Athens in September and Auburn. In a strange twist, due to the SEC monkeying around with the schedules post expansion, the Auburn game will be at Auburn for the second straight year.

Dawgs have a tough Sept; At Clemson, home against S. Carolina and then end the month with LSU.

After that though, only Florida remains as a truly tough game.

Tennessee may be easy game, but Vanderbilt definitely won't. Really who knows what Tennesseee will be like next season. Going to a spread offensive (very similar to A&M) and going back to a 4-3. TN was terrible last year and they still gave Georgia all the could handle till the last drive.

Wow Pitt looks terrible in the first quarter. Weird to see a team that had Notre Dame beat, missing a game-winning FG, be down 14-0 to Ole Miss right now.

Go Ole Miss! Go Sam Houston!

Stele wrote:

Wow Pitt looks terrible in the first quarter. Weird to see a team that had Notre Dame beat, missing a game-winning FG, be down 14-0 to Ole Miss right now. :?

That's nothing - you should had seen what happened to Notre Dame's "signature win" last night.