I'll Nth the Milkman's post. At our church, not only do you have to be a member, you and your spouse have to attend a series of marriage counseling sessions with some trained counselors as part of the package before they'll allow you to be married there.
Is this a celibate priest offering relationship advice type counseling session? I never could quite wrap my brain around that.
Either way, our churches in the area are all pretty big on the same thing (being a member of the church, counselling sessions). There's a reason me and my wife just got married in the backyard instead.
momgamer wrote:I'll Nth the Milkman's post. At our church, not only do you have to be a member, you and your spouse have to attend a series of marriage counseling sessions with some trained counselors as part of the package before they'll allow you to be married there.
Is this a celibate priest offering relationship advice type counseling session? I never could quite wrap my brain around that.
Either way, our churches in the area are all pretty big on the same thing (being a member of the church, counselling sessions). There's a reason me and my wife just got married in the backyard instead. :)
Nope, he's not celibate. And in fact, he's been married twice. That's why he's so into making sure people have the tools to negotiate their new life together before they leap the broom.
Demosthenes wrote:momgamer wrote:I'll Nth the Milkman's post. At our church, not only do you have to be a member, you and your spouse have to attend a series of marriage counseling sessions with some trained counselors as part of the package before they'll allow you to be married there.
Is this a celibate priest offering relationship advice type counseling session? I never could quite wrap my brain around that.
Either way, our churches in the area are all pretty big on the same thing (being a member of the church, counselling sessions). There's a reason me and my wife just got married in the backyard instead. :)
Nope, he's not celibate. And in fact, he's been married twice. That's why he's so into making sure people have the tools to negotiate their new life together before they leap the broom.
The preacher at the Presbyterian place made us fill out questionaires and sit around talking with him for half an hour. He read what we wrote and said "Yeah, you two seem pretty well screwed together" (he was a former Army chaplain) and used up most of the half hour telling us not to stress about all the crap we were already stressing about.
I told him that if he served booze in the pews, he could count on me every Sunday. He laughed and said "We ain't Catholic".
AND MY AXE
Paleocon wrote:I wouldn't mind if a church I was considering allowed gay marriage, but if free beer was served before passing the collection plate, you could probably count me in every Sunday.
I think I speak for most of America.
I think I will move to Colorado and start a Church of Weed.
During the Middle Ages, beer used to be the safest way of keeping potable water. As such, the job of the European brewmaster was not a frivolous profession. It was a necessary part of a healthy functioning society. It didn't take long for the Church to recognize the utility in this, well, utility and thus started the tradition of doling out beer after services to ensure proper godly attendance.
With modern sanitation, this practice gradually declined.
So did Christianity.
If I recall my beer history, the Church was also largely responsible for the shift in brewing away from a female dominated activity and into a male dominated activity. Prior to the European monks, the brewing of beer was done by the same people who made bread, which was typically a woman's responsibility.
If I recall my beer history, the Church was also largely responsible for the shift in brewing away from a female dominated activity and into a male dominated activity. Prior to the European monks, the brewing of beer was done by the same people who made bread, which was typically a woman's responsibility.
Hmm. Entirely possible.
Add women to the list of things I want in my beer church.
KingGorilla wrote:Jayhawker wrote:I think I will move to Colorado and start a Church of Weed.
You have my sword.
AND MY AXE
You carry the fate of us all, stoned one. If it is indeed the will of the Goodjers, then Farscry will see it done.
Seth wrote:KingGorilla wrote:Jayhawker wrote:I think I will move to Colorado and start a Church of Weed.
You have my sword.
AND MY AXE
You carry the fate of us all, stoned one. If it is indeed the will of the Goodjers, then Farscry will see it done.
I wish this bong had never come to the Shire.
This is the last of the Longbottom Leaf. Keep it secret, keep it SAFE!
Oh right, gay marriage and after wedding party buses.
Sorry we went down a hobbit hole there.
Paleocon wrote:It wouldn't mind if a church I was considering allowed gay marriage, but if free beer was served before passing the collection plate, you could probably count me in every Sunday.
I think I speak for most of America.
I think I will move to Colorado and start a Church of Weed.
You all need to join the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church.
Hooray!!! Bigoted public servants in a county in Maryland to get a pass for not doing their jobs!
When same-sex marriage becomes legal in Maryland next week, some employees in the St. Mary's County Circuit Court will stop performing marriages, passing the duty on to other employees."There are some [deputy clerks] that have voiced some opposition to doing it -- [they have] religious feelings about it ... so it's basically my idea that they won't do any marriage at all," said Joan Williams, clerk of the St. Mary's County Circuit Court. "Some people are just very against same-sex marriages, and I have to respect their reasons and their decisions."
These so-called "public servants" need to be told either to do their damn jobs or be fired. If they refuse and are fired, they should also be barred from any public service again.
It is outrageous that the clerk is even entertaining this idea. Good grief. She would be fired if she had said, "Some people are just very against performing weddings for Jews, and I have to respect their reasons and their decisions."
No, they made their decision, and that is that they no longer are public servants. They are servants that will serve the members of the public they wish, not all members of the public.
Let's hope the state government of Maryland steps in and tells these twits to either do their job or pack up their desks and leave. Immediately.
*brain ragequits* For realsies, Rev. Fired or made to do their job. Those are the options for the higher authorities above that court now. Ridiculous. Grrrrrr... gotta stop reading that, making me mad.
St. Mary's County is the home of the Patuxent River Naval Air Base and pretty much where all of experimental NAVAIR went after the latest BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) was implemented. As a result, you have a ton of military folks from different parts of the country descending upon an already pretty conservative county.
It is not at all representative of the rest of Maryland.
St. Mary's County is the home of the Patuxent River Naval Air Base and pretty much where all of experimental NAVAIR went after the latest BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) was implemented. As a result, you have a ton of military folks from different parts of the country descending upon an already pretty conservative county.
It is not at all representative of the rest of Maryland.
Clearly, given that the law passed, that doesn't give public servants the right to ignore their duties though. Yes, they have the right to free expression, religious beliefs, etc... except when their public servants on the job, in which case they need to be following their state's laws, and if they really have such problems with this, they need to be quitting, because this isn't going away.
Paleocon wrote:St. Mary's County is the home of the Patuxent River Naval Air Base and pretty much where all of experimental NAVAIR went after the latest BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) was implemented. As a result, you have a ton of military folks from different parts of the country descending upon an already pretty conservative county.
It is not at all representative of the rest of Maryland.
Clearly, given that the law passed, that doesn't give public servants the right to ignore their duties though. Yes, they have the right to free expression, religious beliefs, etc... except when their public servants on the job, in which case they need to be following their state's laws, and if they really have such problems with this, they need to be quitting, because this isn't going away.
I don't disagree. I am just saying that Lexington Park is about as bass-ackward as one gets in Maryland without being from Garrett County where the only employer is the Federal Prison.
Saw the Columbus story over on reddit. The neighborhood, the Short North, is THE gay neighborhood of Columbus, and while Ohio isn't all that liberal, Columbus is pretty damned friendly to gays. IIRC, it's one of the best cities for gays. Columbus Pride this year was impressively supported by local employers, and the number of churches that marched in the Pride parade was surprising. Not to mention the tiny size of the protesters' "crowd" that followed it.
And that pizza place has a huge truck they send to Columbus Pride, and the line was REALLY long. Good pizza, too.
Saw the Columbus story over on reddit. The neighborhood, the Short North, is THE gay neighborhood of Columbus, and while Ohio isn't all that liberal, Columbus is pretty damned friendly to gays. IIRC, it's one of the best cities for gays. Columbus Pride this year was impressively supported by local employers, and the number of churches that marched in the Pride parade was surprising. Not to mention the tiny size of the protesters' "crowd" that followed it.
And that pizza place has a huge truck they send to Columbus Pride, and the line was REALLY long. Good pizza, too.
Cinci tends to be pretty good to, at least from what I've seen. Pretty decent Pride parade down here too, sponsored by the company I work for which made me feel pretty good about working here.
Mike this is the same pizza place that had the line all day long. They have a "semi permanent" place in the short north where they have picnic tables and show old movies on the wall of a building.
They also have an amazing sauce named "F*ck Vampire Sauce" that is AMAZING!
So glad to see this and live in this city.
*Edit*
Just realized you said it was the place.... I will go back to my hole now
Whatever happened to love your enemies PR?
Reminds me of Monty Python's the Meaning of Life: "Everytime they have sex, they must have a baby!"
Whatever happened to love your enemies PR? ;)
Yeah, PR, how dare you speak ill of your enemies! Jesus certainly never would call someone a hypocrite, he would love his enemies! (Please ignore Matthew 21:13-36 here, where Jesus even calls the Pharisees - an arguable stand-in for the likes of Gallagher - snakes and vipers! That's some harsh indictment there, and I'm not being sarcastic about that)
I wonder if this attitude towards sex is something that is becoming more prevalent as a matter of acceptance of such cultural extremes represented by shows like the Duggars' show... what is it 19 Kids and Counting? Have they broke 20 yet? I would argue that seeing a couple that certainly seems to view sex as something to do every 9-10 months to get a new bun in the oven after the last one just popped out makes that view more acceptable to others.
What's amusing to this extreme is the lack of emphasis on Mrs. Duggar's health complications that are arising, at least by the family themselves. Based on what I've heard, any future Duggars run a pretty high risk of having the same complications and medical assistance as their last child did, hasn't stopped them from saying they are going to have more and more and more kids. Its ridiculous. Other species on the planet have been studied and found to use sex as a recreational activity (dolphins I remember, were one, but I can't remember what some of the others were) as well, and yet certain groups continue to go on and on about how there is only one purpose to it.
How can you forget bonobos!
How can you forget bonobos!
I knew there were more species, I just couldn't really do a Google search for that at work.
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