Inter-faith alliance against gay marriage?
... does the Pope think he's playing Risk?
Hey, now, every minute that the Catholic Church spends opposing gay marriage is a minute they aren't diddling ten-year-olds/hiding the fact that somebody else is diddling ten-year-olds. Really, their ranting is saving young boys of the world from being molested. Consider the time they spend on this a pubic . . . er, public service.
I think you need to change your avatar for statements like that.
Hey, now, every minute that the Catholic Church spends opposing gay marriage is a minute they aren't diddling ten-year-olds/hiding the fact that somebody else is diddling ten-year-olds. Really, their ranting is saving young boys of the world from being molested. Consider the time they spend on this a pubic . . . er, public service.
Sadly, I think you underestimate their ability to multitask.
NSMike wrote:I think you need to change your avatar for statements like that.
I'm not sure I could set that kind of precedent... I'd be changing my avatar to reflect my mood way too often.
I'm curious, what's the study by that Rabbi that they mentioned that gay marriage is destroying families?
EDIT: Had something about how harmless this should hopefully be, but I may be wrong and it comes off badly. Never mind.
So, they've been killing each other for thousands of years, some of them are still trying to kill each other, but they can shake hands over how horrible gay people are.
f*cking nuts.
Congratulations to the bigots at Discover Annapolis Tours who decided to end all trolley service for weddings instead of having to offer their services to those filthy homos.
I wonder if the brain trust at DAT understands that under Maryland law, they cannot discriminate against gays and lesbians for any of their services.
I am looking forward to their crocodile tears in the near future when they close down the whole business in spite (while claiming it is just because they love Jesus so much) rather than provide services to all of the public, include those godless sodomites (no word on if they would refuse service to atheist heterosexuals who engage in anal sex).
So, three cheers for DAT!
Congratulations! Embrace your bigotry!
It's what some skewed vision of Jesus wants you to do!
I have like five quotes to pick apart here from that story that are just too stupid for words, but I'm going to use words none the less. But, I gotta get started on what is likely to be a LONG drive home due to snowy stuff.
Congratulations to the bigots at Discover Annapolis Tours who decided to officially end all trolley service for weddings instead of having to offer their services to those filthy homos (they were considering it a few weeks back).
I wonder if the brain trust at DAT understands that under Maryland law, they cannot discriminate against gays and lesbians for any of their services.
I am looking forward to their crocodile tears in the near future when they close down the whole business in spite (while claiming it is just because they love Jesus so much) rather than provide services to all of the public, include those godless sodomites (no word on if they would refuse service to atheist heterosexuals who engage in anal sex).
So, three cheers for DAT!
Congratulations! Embrace your bigotry!
It's what some skewed vision of Jesus wants you to do!
Look at the way that guy grips that pole. That's a conservative Western grip, not some fancy Continental Overhand grip. That's how a real man runs his hand up and down a slippery pole.
Why is there a stripper pole on the trolley?
Be nice if someone with library access could enlighten us on the study proper. I get scared when media starts talking about studies. Doubly on conclusions, that is where we get fun stuff like this, or videogames lead to violence sorts of stuff. I even heard of one study that says men came from apes, and my grandfather was a chimp.
Well we have two things here.
His study of “How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study” is more or less locked to me. And this is the one I wish we could get into.
The porn and attitudes of acceptance of homosexuals among men watching more porn is another matter entirely. That reads, more or less innocuous, unless you already have a bent that the US is going down the toilet into Sodom and Gomorrah. The Witherspoon Inst. seems to be in the pillar of salt camp. I would say men who watch a larger volume of and more diverse subject matter of porn would be likely to have more liberal attitudes regarding sexuality than men who do not. That seems a harmless correlation to find. And it is quaint to see these groups taking 30 year old chatting points out of the cupboard. I am waiting for the study to start blaming witchcraft and bad humors. Maybe all you and Rubb Ed need is a good bloodletting to rid the devil of you.
Grubbs' message went on to suggest Maryland residents contact their lawmakers to "request they amend the new marriage law to allow an exemption for religious conviction for the layperson in the pew. The law exempts my minister from doing same-sex weddings, and the Knights of Columbus don't have to rent out their hall for a gay wedding reception, but somehow my religious convictions don't count for anything."
This brings up an interesting thought. If Grubbs shut down his business, opened a church, and provided the trolley as a service of the church, would he be able to skirt the laws?
If he were an arm of a religious institution, sure. The Knights of Columbus is a private religious fraternal organization. They are like the Masons or Shriners, with more trinity.
My major qualm is that these organizations get direct funding and tax subsidies from state, local, and federal entities while being agents of hate.
Where this twit sees an unfair loophole that he should be able to exploit, I see state sponsored hate.
KingGorilla wrote:His study of “How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study” is more or less locked to me. And this is the one I wish we could get into.
Yes, it quickly became a pay-for-view study, but I am trying to locate a colleague with a copy.
Although this is not an unbiased source, here is someone who took a lot of time to read the study and pick apart some of the problems....
...In any event, if I find a copy, I will post a link here or send it to you.
[size=10]*wanders away, muttering about pseudoscience*[/size]
[size=10]*wanders away, muttering about pseudoscience*[/size]
If the church offered this to people married in the church, I think they could skirt around that. In the same way a church may offer their banquet hall for wedding receptions only to people wed in that church.
Back before my dad retired (he was a minister), I was with him when somebody just came in off the street and asked if the church was available for weddings. He replied that they were a church and not a wedding chapel, and he would love it if they would join the family of the church and be welcomed there prior to their wedding, as only members or their families were married at that church. So, in other words, the whole "only marry members of your church" thing? That's how it currently goes in many places. This guy's just being his usual dickish self and making up more asinine scare stories.
It wouldn't mind if a church I was considering allowed gay marriage, but if free beer was served before passing the collection plate, you could probably count me in every Sunday.
I think I speak for most of America.
It wouldn't mind if a church I was considering allowed gay marriage, but if free beer was served before passing the collection plate, you could probably count me in every Sunday.
I think I speak for most of America.
I think I will move to Colorado and start a Church of Weed.
I'll Nth the Milkman's post. At our church, not only do you have to be a member, you and your spouse have to attend a series of marriage counseling sessions with some trained counselors as part of the package before they'll allow you to be married there.
I'll Nth the Milkman's post. At our church, not only do you have to be a member, you and your spouse have to attend a series of marriage counseling sessions with some trained counselors as part of the package before they'll allow you to be married there.
It was precisely this sort of crap that resulted in our odd decision to get married in a practically all-white Presbyterian church despite our having no connection to it. I was raised Papist (I know it is a pejorative) while she was raised Baptist (its own pejorative). Nether would let us marry in the church without similar restrictions, so we told them to politely fornicate with themselves.
momgamer wrote:I'll Nth the Milkman's post. At our church, not only do you have to be a member, you and your spouse have to attend a series of marriage counseling sessions with some trained counselors as part of the package before they'll allow you to be married there.
It was precisely this sort of crap that resulted in our odd decision to get married in a practically all-white Presbyterian church despite our having no connection to it. I was raised Papist (I know it is a pejorative) while she was raised Baptist (its own pejorative). Nether would let us marry in the church without similar restrictions, so we told them to politely fornicate with themselves.
And our Pastor would think that was a perfectly awesome choice. He loves to marry people, but he is also thinking of the rest of the life. If you don't want that sort of input, he's a bad choice.
And it's not limiting. I don't think my elder daughter is going to have her ceremony there (her fiance wants a Magic the Gathering tournament as part of the reception and it really doesn't have good facilities for that, for one thing), and I know my elder son and his fiance are going to elope and just have a big party when they get home.
Paleocon wrote:It wouldn't mind if a church I was considering allowed gay marriage, but if free beer was served before passing the collection plate, you could probably count me in every Sunday.
I think I speak for most of America.
I think I will move to Colorado and start a Church of Weed.
You have my sword.
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