Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - Catch All (Oliver North Approved)

So i picked this up on the 360 at lunch and loaded it up to get the updates and took a few laps around.

What's needed to get the bonus group of maps that contain nuketown? I have it on the pc, but not here and the box i have states that it contains nuketown 2025.

ranalin wrote:

So i picked this up on the 360 at lunch and loaded it up to get the updates and took a few laps around.

What's needed to get the bonus group of maps that contain nuketown? I have it on the pc, but not here and the box i have states that it contains nuketown 2025.

There should be a code on a card or something inside the front cover of the game case. Once you download the map you have access to that other playlist.

Leaving work in like 30 seconds and definitely gonna be jumping on when I get home. If anyone is going to be on send me an invite.

MountaineerWR27 wrote:

Leaving work in like 30 seconds and definitely gonna be jumping on when I get home. If anyone is going to be on send me an invite.

You may get some bites if you put your platform and gamertag/name in your post or sig.

ranalin wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

It would be different if there weren't modes specifically designed for you to focus on your K/D... but there are. If that's what you want to focus on playing the other modes just doesn't make any sense.

Unless you enjoy losing maps for some reason.

Ya f*ck KDR i like to win more than worry about my epeen.

The cool thing is with BO2 you can outscore the numbnuts that dont contribute to the objectives now.

Totally agree. I am the guy that goes 8-20 but has 8 caps. I'm always going balls out for the flag and it really peeves me when no one else even moves toward it or supports me at all. I'm really grateful that we have pretty consistently been able to muster 4-6 guys to play the objective based games. I'm sure that they'd all tell you how bad I go off on the pubbie that goes 30-3 and has 0 caps. You know, the guy that couldn't even be bothered to get the free caps at the beginning of each round!! Ugh. That really stings when you lose.

For some reason I seem to do better with the Five-seven pistol in this than the majority of other guns. I have a loadout that's just a Five-seven with a tactical knife, and a whole heap of perks and wildcards, mostly focused on mobility and durability. I often get K:Ds of around 3:1 or 4:1 in Team Deathmatch doing this, but if I go back to an Assault Rifle, I do much worse. It's weird!

Redwing wrote:

For some reason I seem to do better with the Five-seven pistol in this than the majority of other guns. I have a loadout that's just a Five-seven with a tactical knife, and a whole heap of perks and wildcards, mostly focused on mobility and durability. I often get K:Ds of around 3:1 or 4:1 in Team Deathmatch doing this, but if I go back to an Assault Rifle, I do much worse. It's weird!

It's because the Five-seven is a stupid rigged piece of sh*t.

Xeknos wrote:
Redwing wrote:

For some reason I seem to do better with the Five-seven pistol in this than the majority of other guns. I have a loadout that's just a Five-seven with a tactical knife, and a whole heap of perks and wildcards, mostly focused on mobility and durability. I often get K:Ds of around 3:1 or 4:1 in Team Deathmatch doing this, but if I go back to an Assault Rifle, I do much worse. It's weird!

It's because the Five-seven is a stupid rigged piece of sh*t.

Truly? I don't see a lot of people using it. Now I feel bad.

Xeknos wrote:
Redwing wrote:

For some reason I seem to do better with the Five-seven pistol in this than the majority of other guns. I have a loadout that's just a Five-seven with a tactical knife, and a whole heap of perks and wildcards, mostly focused on mobility and durability. I often get K:Ds of around 3:1 or 4:1 in Team Deathmatch doing this, but if I go back to an Assault Rifle, I do much worse. It's weird!

It's because the Five-seven is a stupid rigged piece of sh*t.

For what it's worth that's kind of how it is in real life. The rounds look like shrunken 5.56 rounds from an M4 or M16. Shoots exceedingly high velocity compared to other handgun calibers, and the 20 round mag in the game isn't an imaginary addition. That's what the thing comes with.

The only reason it never caught on to get more widespread use, IMO, is just that it's expensive and so is the ammunition. Well, that and the Germans blocked it's adoption as a standard PDW caliber for UN countries after their own entry into the tests (made by HK, shocker) was deemed significantly less impressive.

Redwing wrote:
Xeknos wrote:
Redwing wrote:

For some reason I seem to do better with the Five-seven pistol in this than the majority of other guns. I have a loadout that's just a Five-seven with a tactical knife, and a whole heap of perks and wildcards, mostly focused on mobility and durability. I often get K:Ds of around 3:1 or 4:1 in Team Deathmatch doing this, but if I go back to an Assault Rifle, I do much worse. It's weird!

It's because the Five-seven is a stupid rigged piece of sh*t.

Truly? I don't see a lot of people using it. Now I feel bad. :(

I may or may not die to it often, so I may or may not be biased.

I'm gonna feel real bad when I unlock dual-wield for it then.

Although it's super accurate at long ranges when aiming down sights, and I seem to have a knack for landing lots of rapid fire shots with it at range (but if I'm using an assault rifle I hose down everything but my target apparently... I was much better with them in MW2!), so dual-wield might not be the best choice, even if it would be scary in close.

I'm thinking long-barrel might be a better choice than the tac-knife now though, looking into the stats a bit more, apparently it's a 2-hit-kill at short range, and 3-hit-kill up to around 20 metres, anything to push those out a bit would be handy.

When people start complaining about it as much as the G18 in MW2, I'll change over.

PWAlessi wrote:
ranalin wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

It would be different if there weren't modes specifically designed for you to focus on your K/D... but there are. If that's what you want to focus on playing the other modes just doesn't make any sense.

Unless you enjoy losing maps for some reason.

Ya f*ck KDR i like to win more than worry about my epeen.

The cool thing is with BO2 you can outscore the numbnuts that dont contribute to the objectives now.

Totally agree. I am the guy that goes 8-20 but has 8 caps. I'm always going balls out for the flag and it really peeves me when no one else even moves toward it or supports me at all. I'm really grateful that we have pretty consistently been able to muster 4-6 guys to play the objective based games. I'm sure that they'd all tell you how bad I go off on the pubbie that goes 30-3 and has 0 caps. You know, the guy that couldn't even be bothered to get the free caps at the beginning of each round!! Ugh. That really stings when you lose.

See, I used to run the flag religiously back in Black Ops, and can still contribute significantly to a win on objective based maps; I totally will focus on the other players trying to get objectives, even now. But if you think having a 8-20 k/d while mindless pursuing an objective is any less frustrating to your team mates, I think you're making a mistake. If you pay attention to people who win consistently, you can get objectives and also maintain a positive KD. I think ignoring any facet of the game completely is a huge mistake.

In kill confirmed, oddly enough, I hate letting anyone else get my tags; if I killed it, I want that confirmation myself dammit, I hate giving away free points (unless I'm playing with a group of friends).

And in answer to those people who keep saying 'If you like killing people, play team deathmatch' I would consider it if there were more fixed sides. Pushing through the map only to get creamed from behind totally ruins that game type for me. It also makes many loadouts worthless, whereas I find objective based game types encourage a wider variety of play-styles.

Dakuna wrote:

See, I used to run the flag religiously back in Black Ops, and can still contribute significantly to a win on objective based maps; I totally will focus on the other players trying to get objectives, even now. But if you think having a 8-20 k/d while mindless pursuing an objective is any less frustrating to your team mates, I think you're making a mistake. If you pay attention to people who win consistently, you can get objectives and also maintain a positive KD. I think ignoring any facet of the game completely is a huge mistake.

He said 8-20 with 8 caps. I think that almost all players would love to have that type of player on their team. I know I would. Ultimately its a game and you can play it however you want. I just tend to leave groups when other players aren't helping out with the objectives. I have much more fun when everyone is working as a team.

Dakuna wrote:
PWAlessi wrote:
ranalin wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

It would be different if there weren't modes specifically designed for you to focus on your K/D... but there are. If that's what you want to focus on playing the other modes just doesn't make any sense.

Unless you enjoy losing maps for some reason.

Ya f*ck KDR i like to win more than worry about my epeen.

The cool thing is with BO2 you can outscore the numbnuts that dont contribute to the objectives now.

Totally agree. I am the guy that goes 8-20 but has 8 caps. I'm always going balls out for the flag and it really peeves me when no one else even moves toward it or supports me at all. I'm really grateful that we have pretty consistently been able to muster 4-6 guys to play the objective based games. I'm sure that they'd all tell you how bad I go off on the pubbie that goes 30-3 and has 0 caps. You know, the guy that couldn't even be bothered to get the free caps at the beginning of each round!! Ugh. That really stings when you lose.

See, I used to run the flag religiously back in Black Ops, and can still contribute significantly to a win on objective based maps; I totally will focus on the other players trying to get objectives, even now. But if you think having a 8-20 k/d while mindless pursuing an objective is any less frustrating to your team mates, I think you're making a mistake. If you pay attention to people who win consistently, you can get objectives and also maintain a positive KD. I think ignoring any facet of the game completely is a huge mistake.

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I agree. It's not the player like you (the one that has a high k/d and supports the team by getting kills around the points) that aggrevates me. It's the one that runs around aimlessly getting kills nowhere near a point, not helping anyone achieve anything remotely related to the objective.

I guess my point is that the objective based games are strongly team focused and your team has the best chance of success when playing as a team and not 6 lone wolves.

EvilDead wrote:
MountaineerWR27 wrote:

Leaving work in like 30 seconds and definitely gonna be jumping on when I get home. If anyone is going to be on send me an invite.

You may get some bites if you put your platform and gamertag/name in your post or sig.

There we go.

PWAlessi wrote:

I agree. It's not the player like you (the one that has a high k/d and supports the team by getting kills around the points) that aggrevates me. It's the one that runs around aimlessly getting kills nowhere near a point, not helping anyone achieve anything remotely related to the objective.

I guess my point is that the objective based games are strongly team focused and your team has the best chance of success when playing as a team and not 6 lone wolves.

Yup, that's the point I was trying to make.

I'm not good enough to be the high K:D guy keeping enemies off the objectives. I am good enough to rack up a pretty high death count while still earning enough meaningful kills and capping/demoing/defending objectives that I'm obviously helping my team (and with the new scoring system, my rank on the leaderboard at the end actually reflects this). Last night on Demolition, the enemy team's players were almost all significantly better at a gunfight than me. However, I was able to help my team win through the judicious use of taser thingies, often-suicidal kamikaze runs at guys trying to disable our bombs on the demo points (or trying to activate the bombs when we were on defense), etc.

I think I was near the top of my team's deaths. But I was also near the top (or at the top, I don't remember) of the number of defends and plants for the overall match (both teams, not just mine). I had a very high score. I earned several killstreaks throughout the match. I even had the match-ending killcam (not that I was trying to earn it; it was just part of how I was pushing constantly as hard as I could to make the enemy team HAVE to deal with me if they wanted to get the objectives) with a rebounding grenade toss into a group of enemies pushing up to try to disable our bomb.

And our team had a Dakuna-style guy too, without whom we likely would have lost. It takes all types, as long as all types are working towards the objectives either directly or indirectly.

Covering an objective to help teammates capture is one thing but what Dakuna said didn't give me the impression that that's what hes doing (see below). I will restate that I don't care how people want to play the game, they paid the same amount I did. However I will get out of that lobby as quickly as possible after the round is over. To me it just feels like abusing a game mode to improve your K:D at the expense of your teammates.

Dakuna wrote:

Objective based games are lots of fun, but I do hear the complaints about people not bothering to cap things. Fortunately, I ignore those complaints and mostly continue to ignore the objectives. KD is more important to me than overall score, and if I was in any army, I'd be some kind of stealthy lone-wolf type, never one of the trench-charging morons pushing the cause of my side at the expense of my own skin. Believe me, I appreciate those types to no end, but nobody survived to run another mission that died on the first one.

Oh just to get it out of the way so everyone knows what i'm thinking during every match. f*ck the 360 controler.

So damn frustrating to not be able to do on the 360 what i'm able to do on the PC.

It's interesting to see that FAL with select fire is more prevalent on the 360 than on the PC. PC side it's primarily still the 870 shotgun and melee with a strong showing of the skorpion.

Farscry wrote:

I even had the match-ending killcam (not that I was trying to earn it;

You should be... at least until you do it 25 times. There's a challenge for it and challenges = xp

ranalin wrote:

So damn frustrating to not be able to do on the 360 what i'm able to do on the PC.

Well if it makes you feel any better, nobody else can either. Except maybe those ridiculous people who can jump spin and head shot you before you get your second shot off.

EvilDead wrote:
ranalin wrote:

So damn frustrating to not be able to do on the 360 what i'm able to do on the PC.

Well if it makes you feel any better, nobody else can either. Except maybe those ridiculous people who can jump spin and head shot you before you get your second shot off. :D

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ranalin wrote:
EvilDead wrote:
ranalin wrote:

So damn frustrating to not be able to do on the 360 what i'm able to do on the PC.

Well if it makes you feel any better, nobody else can either. Except maybe those ridiculous people who can jump spin and head shot you before you get your second shot off. :D

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What is that from? I can't stop watching it. That's like Indian action movie crazy!

No clue... Wired sent that to me a couple days ago.

EvilDead wrote:

Covering an objective to help teammates capture is one thing but what Dakuna said didn't give me the impression that that's what hes doing (see below). I will restate that I don't care how people want to play the game, they paid the same amount I did. However I will get out of that lobby as quickly as possible after the round is over. To me it just feels like abusing a game mode to improve your K:D at the expense of your teammates.

Dakuna wrote:

Objective based games are lots of fun, but I do hear the complaints about people not bothering to cap things. Fortunately, I ignore those complaints and mostly continue to ignore the objectives. KD is more important to me than overall score, and if I was in any army, I'd be some kind of stealthy lone-wolf type, never one of the trench-charging morons pushing the cause of my side at the expense of my own skin. Believe me, I appreciate those types to no end, but nobody survived to run another mission that died on the first one.

I may have been exaggerating for effect; I sometimes blindly pursue objectives, leading to a lot of pointless deaths, and that really aggravates me. My cure for that is to ensure I focus on survival first and objectives second. Mostly, I avoid carrying the flag, or rushing into an objective until I am certain things are clear; even then I am hesitant

Swat wrote:
ranalin wrote:

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What is that from? I can't stop watching it. That's like Indian action movie crazy!

It's hypnotizing and perfectly fitting!

Dakuna wrote:

I may have been exaggerating for effect; I sometimes blindly pursue objectives, leading to a lot of pointless deaths, and that really aggravates me. My cure for that is to ensure I focus on survival first and objectives second. Mostly, I avoid carrying the flag, or rushing into an objective until I am certain things are clear; even then I am hesitant

Fair enough.

EvilDead wrote:
Swat wrote:
ranalin wrote:

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/kv7JN.gif)

What is that from? I can't stop watching it. That's like Indian action movie crazy!

It's hypnotizing and perfectly fitting!

Dakuna wrote:

I may have been exaggerating for effect; I sometimes blindly pursue objectives, leading to a lot of pointless deaths, and that really aggravates me. My cure for that is to ensure I focus on survival first and objectives second. Mostly, I avoid carrying the flag, or rushing into an objective until I am certain things are clear; even then I am hesitant

Fair enough.

9 times out of 10 I feel like the guy in the red shirt going up against KSG shotty jumping fools. From even further away

The only good thing about the KSG (from a PC perspective) is the lethal range. Besides that i hate it with a passion. I cant hit sh*t with it. It doesnt seem to hit what you're aiming at regardless if you're aiming with the default sites, any scope, laser. I cant wait till i finish getting gold on it so i can never touch it again.

ranalin wrote:

The only good thing about the KSG (from a PC perspective) is the lethal range. Besides that i hate it with a passion. I cant hit sh*t with it. It doesnt seem to hit what you're aiming at regardless if you're aiming with the default sites, any scope, laser. I cant wait till i finish getting gold on it so i can never touch it again.

I set up a bot match in my attempt to try it out, but it literally was hit or miss for me. I guess it just takes practice, but for every awesome kill, there were a couple "strafe and fire, miss everything and die like an idiot". I was really good at shooting non-strafing people in the back though!

I remember having a lot of fun with Ghost + Silenced SPAS-12 in BO1, so I might attempt the shotty route again, just have to adjust my play-style.

Swat wrote:
ranalin wrote:

The only good thing about the KSG (from a PC perspective) is the lethal range. Besides that i hate it with a passion. I cant hit sh*t with it. It doesnt seem to hit what you're aiming at regardless if you're aiming with the default sites, any scope, laser. I cant wait till i finish getting gold on it so i can never touch it again.

I set up a bot match in my attempt to try it out, but it literally was hit or miss for me. I guess it just takes practice, but for every awesome kill, there were a couple "strafe and fire, miss everything and die like an idiot". I was really good at shooting non-strafing people in the back though!

I remember having a lot of fun with Ghost + Silenced SPAS-12 in BO1, so I might attempt the shotty route again, just have to adjust my play-style.

The 870 sometimes feels like playing in god mode once you get the long barrel for it and just gets better with the laser. You look at someone and they die. It's still my goto 'enough is enough' kit when i start having problems (generally against another shotgunner).

ranalin wrote:
Swat wrote:
ranalin wrote:

The only good thing about the KSG (from a PC perspective) is the lethal range. Besides that i hate it with a passion. I cant hit sh*t with it. It doesnt seem to hit what you're aiming at regardless if you're aiming with the default sites, any scope, laser. I cant wait till i finish getting gold on it so i can never touch it again.

I set up a bot match in my attempt to try it out, but it literally was hit or miss for me. I guess it just takes practice, but for every awesome kill, there were a couple "strafe and fire, miss everything and die like an idiot". I was really good at shooting non-strafing people in the back though!

I remember having a lot of fun with Ghost + Silenced SPAS-12 in BO1, so I might attempt the shotty route again, just have to adjust my play-style.

The 870 sometimes feels like playing in god mode once you get the long barrel for it and just gets better with the laser. You look at someone and they die. It's still my goto 'enough is enough' kit when i start having problems (generally against another shotgunner).

Sweet, I know what I'm trying next!