Arkane's Dishonored

Just finished. No words. Should've sent a poet!

Anyway, I really really loved this game, and there's just too much to say about it right now. I need to let it sink in. Reflect a little before I replay it.

One small example that illustrates the brilliance of this game is a bit in the Flooded City:

Spoiler:

If you spared Overseer Campbell earlier in the game, when you get your gear back in the Flooded City, he is down there as a weeper and there's a journal entry from him telling the aftermath of his being branded.

This is by far one the best games I've ever played.

Kurrelgyre wrote:

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I got through without killing any of my main targets (chaos=low), although I might have killed a guard here and there.

Spoiler:

Only after Lady Boyle had been taken away did it occur to me that maybe they weren't in a relationship, and I had perhaps just turned her over to a stalker.

This was one of the issues I had with the game. Blink made the stealth a bit too easy really. Compared to the thief series, it's a cakewalk.

Edit: oh I missed that journal entry, can anyone sum it up?

I'll necro this thread.

I had 2 hours free during my 5 days off and someone gifted this to me when it was on sale for $22 so I fired it up again.

It really is a fantastic game. I just had to get out of the mindset that the whole game can be stealthed all the way through.

Is six days a "necro" now? Man, kid's attention spans sure have...

Now a franchise for Bethesda: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...

Thats awesome news, I love Arkane Studios. It also bodes well for the first person stealth genre as well as my hopes for LEGO Dishonored next year.

Running Man wrote:

Thats awesome news, I love Arkane Studios. It also bodes well for the first person stealth genre as well as my hopes for LEGO Dishonored next year.

Agreed. A first person stealth game would be awesome.

I truly hope they don't bungle it. Dishonoured is a very complex game that got the recipe just right. But it's a finished meal. If they try to extend it, I don't think it'll work. My concern is that they may come up with a wrong answer when they ask themselves: what made Dishonoured as great as it was. In their effort to "improve" and extend the franchise, they may pick up on the wrong aspects, in the vein of Dragon Age.

I also wonder if different people got different things out of it.

I wonder what the sequel will be called?

Dishonored 2 - Dishonoreder

Nevin73 wrote:

I wonder what the sequel will be called?

Dishonored 2 - Dishonoreder

Dishonored 2 - Dis Harder

I think it's too early to determine whether the franchise does not have room to grow. They did state having DLC planned, and considering you play as a character that is not Corvo in one then we'll see if the universe is capable of working outside of this tightly knit title.

Or they could go the Bioshock route (Irrational-wise, at least) and just use the name to indicate the game's style and create a whole new world.

DIIshonored
Dishonored 2: Re-honored
Dishonored: The Later Years

bnpederson wrote:

So I completed the Ghost (never seen nor had a body detected), Mostly Flesh and Steel (only have Blink 1, no upgrades), and Clean Hands (don't kill anyone) achievements on Hard. That was fun and actually rather fast since I just avoided any side-quests not needed for a non-lethal option. Also Blink 1 is more than enough when it's all you have because there's nothing else to use mana on so you might as well just keep double or triple blinking around.

Though I'm convinced the only way to really get the Clean Hands achievement is to:

Spoiler:

Just not deal with Granny Rags at all. If you don't do her missions you never get her and Slackjaw in the sewers and instead walk through the gate without a problem. This avoids the "bug" where sleep-darting her counts as a kill and where leaving Slackjaw to his fate counts as a kill.

I'm convinced of that as well. I replayed that part multiple times and I have no clue what went wrong. This is one of those rare games that I might literally replay through 3, 4, 5 times.

Getting this as a birthday gift next week (I found it for $25, which I then put in the Amazon cart for her to buy :D)... any recommendations on which way to play first? Stealth versus guns blazing? Still a little leery after DX:HR, where my stealth gameplay style suddenly died about 1/3 of the way in when I hit my first boss.

Demosthenes wrote:

Getting this as a birthday gift next week (I found it for $25, which I then put in the Amazon cart for her to buy :D)... any recommendations on which way to play first? Stealth versus guns blazing? Still a little leery after DX:HR, where my stealth gameplay style suddenly died about 1/3 of the way in when I hit my first boss.

I would just play it naturally, honestly. Stealth is super rewarding in this game, IMO. But if things go bad don't be afraid to be an assassin. That's what I tried to do.

Demosthenes wrote:

Getting this as a birthday gift next week (I found it for $25, which I then put in the Amazon cart for her to buy :D)... any recommendations on which way to play first? Stealth versus guns blazing? Still a little leery after DX:HR, where my stealth gameplay style suddenly died about 1/3 of the way in when I hit my first boss.

You can't stealth your way out of the tutorial so don't spend a dozen hours trying like I did.

DSGamer wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

Getting this as a birthday gift next week (I found it for $25, which I then put in the Amazon cart for her to buy :D)... any recommendations on which way to play first? Stealth versus guns blazing? Still a little leery after DX:HR, where my stealth gameplay style suddenly died about 1/3 of the way in when I hit my first boss.

I would just play it naturally, honestly. Stealth is super rewarding in this game, IMO. But if things go bad don't be afraid to be an assassin. That's what I tried to do.

Sounds good. My problem with DX was that... as far as I could tell... run and gun really wasn't a legit way to play too... unless I was missing something, which I don't know how I could as I had almost every upgrade going by the end and still felt like I was using a pea shooter when it came to combat. A hybrid build was really the only way I found that got me through it all to the wonderful press a button to get your ending, four choices, go! finale(s).

Oh yeah, please tell me, like almost every game I've played in this genre, that narrative device is not used at the end.

Montalban wrote:

DIIshonored

God damn it. That's what they're going to call it all right.

ibdoomed wrote:

You can't stealth your way out of the tutorial so don't spend a dozen hours trying like I did.

Huh? Sure you can.

Demosthenes wrote:

Getting this as a birthday gift next week (I found it for $25, which I then put in the Amazon cart for her to buy :D)... any recommendations on which way to play first? Stealth versus guns blazing? Still a little leery after DX:HR, where my stealth gameplay style suddenly died about 1/3 of the way in when I hit my first boss.

Honestly, play natural. First time through, play for story and effect. Don't sweat cheevos. There are some gotchas, but if you look them up they will ruin your game. So just enjoy it as is.

Running Man wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

You can't stealth your way out of the tutorial so don't spend a dozen hours trying like I did.

Huh? Sure you can.

How?

Spoiler:

Is there another option besides blowing up the door?

Demosthenes wrote:

too many questions...

Demo, honestly, you're overthinking this game. Just go play it with no expectations. Don't think of it as DX. Don't think of it as Thief. Just don't think of it. Let it be Dishonoured. Nothing more, nothing less. The more expectations you bring into it, the more chances it has to disappoint you.

Demosthenes wrote:
DSGamer wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

Getting this as a birthday gift next week (I found it for $25, which I then put in the Amazon cart for her to buy :D)... any recommendations on which way to play first? Stealth versus guns blazing? Still a little leery after DX:HR, where my stealth gameplay style suddenly died about 1/3 of the way in when I hit my first boss.

I would just play it naturally, honestly. Stealth is super rewarding in this game, IMO. But if things go bad don't be afraid to be an assassin. That's what I tried to do.

Sounds good. My problem with DX was that... as far as I could tell... run and gun really wasn't a legit way to play too... unless I was missing something, which I don't know how I could as I had almost every upgrade going by the end and still felt like I was using a pea shooter when it came to combat. A hybrid build was really the only way I found that got me through it all to the wonderful press a button to get your ending, four choices, go! finale(s).

Oh yeah, please tell me, like almost every game I've played in this genre, that narrative device is not used at the end.

You can run and gun, 100%. It's just not as fun that way. I started a "dirty hands" playthrough and found it not as satisfying as bine stealthy. It worked in a pinch, though.

ibdoomed wrote:

How?

Spoiler:

Is there another option besides blowing up the door?

Spoiler:

Blowing up the door does not mean you are discovered.

ibdoomed wrote:
Running Man wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

You can't stealth your way out of the tutorial so don't spend a dozen hours trying like I did.

Huh? Sure you can.

How?

Spoiler:

Is there another option besides blowing up the door?

Spoiler:

I dunno, I blew up the door and no one died. Then again, if I recall the room that door is in, I managed to choke all the guys in there out and hid them someplace.

ccesarano wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:
Running Man wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

You can't stealth your way out of the tutorial so don't spend a dozen hours trying like I did.

Huh? Sure you can.

How?

Spoiler:

Is there another option besides blowing up the door?

Spoiler:

I dunno, I blew up the door and no one died. Then again, if I recall the room that door is in, I managed to choke all the guys in there out and hid them someplace.

Spoiler:

Yes Grasshopper, if door explode and no one awake to hear it, door make no sound. Ah so.

Hyetal wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

How?

Spoiler:

Is there another option besides blowing up the door?

Spoiler:

Blowing up the door does not mean you are discovered.

Spoiler:

Ok. I swear I tried hiding every possible place; in the corner, in the cupboard, under the table, were there stairs too? It's been a while.

ibdoomed wrote:
Hyetal wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

How?

Spoiler:

Is there another option besides blowing up the door?

Spoiler:

Blowing up the door does not mean you are discovered.

Spoiler:

Ok. I swear I tried hiding every possible place; in the corner, in the cupboard, under the table, were there stairs too? It's been a while.

Spoiler:

You don't hide. Blow up the door, run and jump over the railing then swim underwater to the exit. You won't be spotted.

Scratched wrote:

Now a franchise for Bethesda: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...

That warms my heart. Good to see that happen every now and then.

Just picked this up as well. Ended up with a high level of chaos during the tutorial as I was still figuring out the stealth mechanic. Given the advice here, I'm just going to try to go through the game using stealth but if someone needs a good flintlock to the face, so be it.

There wasn't really advice to play stealth, per say, but just follow your heart. My heart told me to kill every guard I saw and make sure my grenades were always empty.