Gaming Confessions & Blasphemy

hbi2k wrote:

I mean, in the nineties, it was simple. You were fighting Nazis from Germany.

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Shooters based loosely on real-world conflicts aren't exactly a recent phenomenon

It's actually really funny. Nearly all shooters used to be ww2 based a while back, and everyone complained about it. Modern warfare came out and did something quite new, and now it get nothing but modern shooters.

strangederby wrote:

But whats the point of finding all that phat loot if you can't see yourself wearing it?

All first-person games should just have in-game mirrors.

muttonchop wrote:
hbi2k wrote:

I mean, in the nineties, it was simple. You were fighting Nazis from Germany.

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Shooters based loosely on real-world conflicts aren't exactly a recent phenomenon :P

You know, when the final boss of Call of Duty is a cross between Bin Laden and the thing from Robocop, maybe that'll be a better comparison. I'd probably play that game. (-:

Since we're on the subject of judging people by how they play games, I'd like to add:

If you're an absolute douche in game, I think there's a really good chance you're a douche in real life.

I know there are a million excuses for bad online behavior, from "I get passionate" to "I'm roleplaying a villain." But if you regularly gank lobbies on PVP servers, spawn camp, hack, team kill for vehicles, or tell teammates to get cancer and die because they messed up your MOBA battle plan, don't try to convince me that you're actually a decent person away from the game.

jdzappa wrote:

Since we're on the subject of judging people by how they play games, I'd like to add:

If you're an absolute douche in game, I think there's a really good chance you're a douche in real life.

I know there are a million excuses for bad online behavior, from "I get passionate" to "I'm roleplaying a villain." But if you regularly gank lobbies on PVP servers, spawn camp, hack, team kill for vehicles, or tell teammates to get cancer and die because they messed up your MOBA battle plan, don't try to convince me that you're actually a decent person away from the game.

In most multiplayer games I play now, I usually automatically mute everyone. Which is sad, because it can be really fun to communicate and work as a team if you get a group of non-asshats. I just don't have the patience for bad behavior in games any more. This is why I never got into LoL or Modern Warfare multi.

jdzappa wrote:

Since we're on the subject of judging people by how they play games, I'd like to add:

If you're an absolute douche in game, I think there's a really good chance you're a douche in real life.

I know there are a million excuses for bad online behavior, from "I get passionate" to "I'm roleplaying a villain." But if you regularly gank lobbies on PVP servers, spawn camp, hack, team kill for vehicles, or tell teammates to get cancer and die because they messed up your MOBA battle plan, don't try to convince me that you're actually a decent person away from the game.

"Character is who you are when no else is around."

I'll go one step further and say that I'm willing to bet that those same people generally do NOT act that way in public because they are too introverted/cowardly to be themselves in real life. The anonymity afforded them by the internet brings out their true colors.

PaladinTom wrote:
jdzappa wrote:

Since we're on the subject of judging people by how they play games, I'd like to add:

If you're an absolute douche in game, I think there's a really good chance you're a douche in real life.

I know there are a million excuses for bad online behavior, from "I get passionate" to "I'm roleplaying a villain." But if you regularly gank lobbies on PVP servers, spawn camp, hack, team kill for vehicles, or tell teammates to get cancer and die because they messed up your MOBA battle plan, don't try to convince me that you're actually a decent person away from the game.

"Character is who you are when no else is around."

I'll go one step further and say that I'm willing to bet that those same people generally do NOT act that way in public because they are too introverted/cowardly to be themselves in real life. The anonymity afforded them by the internet brings out their true colors.

MOBA games like League of Legends, Heroes of Newerth and Dota2 bring out the worst in me.
No excuse. But after years of complaining about the extremely low level of tolerance and the propensity to spew foul language at the minimum mistake, I noticed I started to do the same thing. I now have to be aware of what I say. While I won't type it, or type something like "it's cool", "no problem", "please help out with wards", etc; it's a VERY different dialogue that crosses my mind while I type niceties.

I think the first Assassin's Creed is the best title in the series.

I think The Dark Knight Rises is one of the worst movies I have ever seen.

I played both Fallout 3 and Skyrim from a third-person perspective.

I felt nothing when Aeris died.

I guess, I realize now that, for the most part, I don't enjoy difficult games any more...

I mean, the occasional Super Meat boy will come along and pique my interest for a time, and I find that I'm enjoying the challenge of doing a stealthy no-kill run of Dishonored (not that dishonored is an overly difficult game, mind you), but I don't have the time that I used to have to play games. I can't sit for hours figuring out the right boss order for Mega Man 2. Now, I find myself, more often than not, sitting down with something like Assassin's Creed or Skyrim (now that my character is basically a demigod). I want to zone out, not think about animation for a while, and escape into an interactive story or world.

15 years ago I didn't think you were playing a game right if you didn't start with the highest difficulty level by default.

It's funny, 'cause this was well before Achievements, online leaderboards, or any manner of public displays of l33t skilz. It was a more personal affair associated with a sense of pride in being a Veteran Gamer who welcomed the worst a game could bring.

Lack of time and patience has dampened that fire and I'm now just fine opening every game on Normal difficulty. Heck, I'll drop down to Easy in an instant if difficulty is getting in the way of fun.

No shame.

Reading this thread has really opened my eyes. I always asumed that nintendo was an obscure console. I had no idea it formed a part of so many peoples childhoods. Maybe it's a UK thing or maybe just a me thing but growing up everyone I knew who was a gamer had a spectrum, a comodor, an atari or a saga. The only reason I even knew about nintendo was from American movies.

JillSammich wrote:

I guess, I realize now that, for the most part, I don't enjoy difficult games any more...

QFT. XCOM has taught me this. I like a solid challenge, but there's a line. As I get older, the things I want to put blood, sweat, and tears into are things that actually cause me to actually emit all those fluids - like exercise, yard work, playing football with the younger generation in my family.

I'm a gamer, and I probably always will be, but my habits change as I age. Such is life, right?

There is no right boss order for Megaman 2. The only way to properly kill everything is with your Buster Cannon. Special boss guns are just for giggles.

I've got a fairly hefty gaming pc that I continue to upgrade even though I dislike the pc as a gaming device. I hate having to spend hours downloading and installing games only to spend another hour or two tweaking settings to get the optimal experience out of said game. I hate the mouse and keyboard for gaming. They weren't designed with games in mind, and it shows. While not necessarily a fault of the computer, another factor is my distaste for sitting hunched over a desk while gaming.
Because of these reasons, the only games I play on pc anymore are those I can't get on console, which these days is really only MMO's and some indie titles.

NOTE: This isn't a pc/console fanboy thing, at least I don't view it as such. I still spend an embarrassing amount of money on Steam sales and continue to upgrade my machine. I just can't bring myself to play more than an hour of any of the games I purchase.

I hook up my PC to the TV and use a wireless 360 controller. That's how I played Amalur, and that's how I played the Batman games. I think that's going to be how I play XCOM, soon.

That really only solves two of the four problems I listed, and creates an additional problem of reliably networking the computer to the tv. So much easier to just turn on the Xbox.

Regarding difficult games, I think the majority of games don't do difficulty well enough to make it worthwhile playing at higher difficulty, most often that involves issues around the game such as preserving progress, clear communication with the player, responsive controls, etc. Or they just increase difficulty by crude means, which has you wailing on an enemy for 1.3x as long, and that's about it. Most games are just 'good enough' in these factors which makes it a chore to play on hard.

LarryC wrote:

There is no right boss order for Megaman 2. The only way to properly kill everything is with your Buster Cannon. Special boss guns are just for giggles.

I thought half of them had a weakness to Metal Man's attack? It's been a while so I can't remember, I just know that you get his weapon first and basically continue to spam the "win" button.

Either way, Mega Man X is still the best Mega Man game ever, even better than 2.

In addition...

I keep forgetting my PC is capable of being a gaming machine. I don't stop playing games on here because I'm not having fun. But I keep forgetting about Planetside 2, Penny Arcade Ep. 3, and once upon a time completely forgot about Mother 3 simply because when I think "I want to play games now" I always think of a console first. This has me wanting to grab Psychonauts for Steam, but afraid if I do I'll never play it.

ccesarano:

I thought half of them had a weakness to Metal Man's attack? It's been a while so I can't remember, I just know that you get his weapon first and basically continue to spam the "win" button.

Not from what I recall. IIRC, Metalman's attack was both spammable because the energy cost was so cheap, and directional, so you can avoid attack easily while still aiming with deadly accuracy. In addition, it was moderately more powerful than Megaman's Buster Cannon, so it essentially is Better Buster Cannon.

You can beat all the bosses easily with Metalman's Saw Blades. That's why I maintain that the only real way to truly master the game is not to use any boss weapon, but to beat all the bosses and all the levels using only the Buster Cannon.

I used the same approach in all the Megaman games, actually. X4's bosses were particularly interesting if you restricted yourself to the Mega Buster.

ccesarano wrote:
LarryC wrote:

There is no right boss order for Megaman 2. The only way to properly kill everything is with your Buster Cannon. Special boss guns are just for giggles.

I thought half of them had a weakness to Metal Man's attack? It's been a while so I can't remember, I just know that you get his weapon first and basically continue to spam the "win" button.

Either way, Mega Man X is still the best Mega Man game ever, even better than 2.

In addition...

I keep forgetting my PC is capable of being a gaming machine. I don't stop playing games on here because I'm not having fun. But I keep forgetting about Planetside 2, Penny Arcade Ep. 3, and once upon a time completely forgot about Mother 3 simply because when I think "I want to play games now" I always think of a console first. This has me wanting to grab Psychonauts for Steam, but afraid if I do I'll never play it.

Bubble Man is weak against the metal blades, and when you fight Metal Man again, they're a one-hit kill.

I Hate F2P Games.

In my experience nothing good has ever come out of the them. When TF2 went F2P it completely ruined it. I understand that not everyone can afford to buy every game that they want, and maybe I'm an elitist, but at least when you pay for a game you have some incentive to get good at it.

Even if it's not Pay-to-Win, it's still a bad F2P Game.

Schrensky wrote:

When TF2 went F2P it completely ruined it.

Your lips are moving but I cannot comprehend what you are saying...

Seriously though, and at not trying to derail the thread or be combative, how did F2P ruin TF2? I'm just interested.

Also, Firefall is a quite fun F2P shootery thing.

I've had boring to spectacular experiences with F2P games, just like regular games. I don't get the hate.

Yeah, it's downright... ...blasphemous! It's blasphemy, I tells ya!

Blind_Evil wrote:

I've had boring to spectacular experiences with F2P games, just like regular games. I don't get the hate.

I think a lot of the community of TF2 has a sense that they didn't want just anyone to be able to jump in and play. I can understand not wanting just any old schlub to be on your team and bring it down if they don't know what they're doing. But I think 1. Valve has done a bang-up job keeping the game relatively balanced despite being able to buy gear. and 2. Everyone has to start somewhere in games. It's like the DOTA players who get hostile at someone who's new. There's just no reason for it other than snobbery or a general bad attitude.

I paid for TF2, but I have no problem with it going FTP. My big problem with FTP is the way they try to monetize them. I've seen very few strategies to monetize that didn't make me feel slimy just thinking about it.

I didn't like TF2 before or after the move to F2P (gaming blasphemy!), for the record.

JillSammich wrote:

I think a lot of the community of TF2 has a sense that they didn't want just anyone to be able to jump in and play.

This. Certain games just make me go into an extremely competitive mode, and TF2 was one of them. I relax and have fun when I play with fellow GWJers, but back when I played TF2 a lot my schedule didn't line up with a lot of other people's, so I played solo. I think that may be part of the problem too, though. Not playing with a regular group makes me get frustrated easily with pubbies. At least when you play with people you know there's always the friendly banter and teamwork. I guess when you take that away and throw in the number of people who play F2P games because they don't take PC gaming seriously it just ruins the experience (for me, at least).

I guess I find it difficult to understand that way of thinking because I take hardly anything seriously. Least of all games. I don't get angry really when I lose a match in... well any shooter, to be honest. I can hold my own and I'm there because the games are fun. I just don't get that competitive.

I'm actually more on the other side. I get really annoyed when someone on my team takes the game super seriously. It's a game. If you're not having fun, stop playing. I didn't intentionally ruin your experience. In fact, I think I'm fairly decent at games. I just don't care if I lose in them. I have more important things to worry about.

Which is why I don't play F2P games